Talk:To See the Next Part of the Dream
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 12:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- ... that the vocals of To See the Next Part of the Dream were recorded on a Samsung Galaxy S5? Source: https://www.stereogum.com/2245469/tiktok-has-made-shoegaze-bigger-than-ever/columns/sounding-board/
ALT1a: ... that Parannoul thinks his album To See the Next Part of the Dream is overrated?ALT1b: ... that despite To See the Next Part of the Dream being considered one of the best albums of 2021, its creator found it overrated?ALT2: ... that Longinus Recordings was founded because of To See the Next Part of the Dream?- ALT3: ... that Parannoul felt burdened by the popularity of his album To See the Next Part of the Dream? Source: https://newsis.com/view/?id=NISX20210422_0001415550&cID=10601&pID=10600
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WTXF-TV
- Comment: Hopefully the interviews are fine to cite.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Skyshiftertalk 19:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review) per WP:RATEYOURMUSIC, that site is considered unreliable and has been formally deprecated; it should probably be removed from the article Skyshifter. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am aware, but I believe this is an exception; this is not the Rate Your Music database being used, but rather an interview with the artist (as part of their Sonemic Interview series, which has been recurrent), and I am strictly using the artists' own words. WP:ABOUTSELF should apply. Skyshiftertalk 22:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Songfacts does seem to have cleaned up its act a bit since I last used it, but perhaps it might be worth posting at WP:RSN to be sure. Certainly ALT1a and ALT1b won't fly as they could change (opinions can go up as well as down), and ALT2 and ALT3 should not contain parentheses.--Launchballer 08:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I can post, however this seems like a standard case of WP:ABOUTSELF, which applies to any source. Skyshiftertalk 12:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Songfacts does seem to have cleaned up its act a bit since I last used it, but perhaps it might be worth posting at WP:RSN to be sure. Certainly ALT1a and ALT1b won't fly as they could change (opinions can go up as well as down), and ALT2 and ALT3 should not contain parentheses.--Launchballer 08:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am aware, but I believe this is an exception; this is not the Rate Your Music database being used, but rather an interview with the artist (as part of their Sonemic Interview series, which has been recurrent), and I am strictly using the artists' own words. WP:ABOUTSELF should apply. Skyshiftertalk 22:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably fine, but I think you should ask anyway, belt and braces and all that.--Launchballer 22:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Considering ALT0 is also supported by Stereogum and ALT1a and ALT1b weren't good to go anyways, I've dropped ALT1a, ALT1b and also ALT2. Skyshiftertalk 18:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
One way of doing it. Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Considering ALT0 is also supported by Stereogum and ALT1a and ALT1b weren't good to go anyways, I've dropped ALT1a, ALT1b and also ALT2. Skyshiftertalk 18:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably fine, but I think you should ask anyway, belt and braces and all that.--Launchballer 22:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
I shall review this. Please note: this is a longish article, and I may have to complete the review in separate stages. If the review appears unfinished, please be patient. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 17:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Thank you for a very interesting article. I had a quick listen on YouTube - it's really quite powerful.
- DYK Check confirms that expansion began on 24 March 2024.
- Earwig finds only proper names and quotations which are properly acknowledged in the article. No problem there.
- ALTs 0 and 3 check out with the sources given on this template. The same facts are mentioned in the article with appropriate citations next to them.
GA Review
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:To See the Next Part of the Dream/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Skyshifter (talk · contribs) 02:40, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: HallyTall (talk · contribs) 18:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
This article is very well written, the information is extensive yet focused, and it provides all the appropriate references to support the claims. Congrats to the writer, you did a great job writing about a great album.
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- Everything in the article is properly backed up by reliable sources. In many instances, there are multiple sources for any given claim, and they don't contradict each other. I'll give a spot-check sample of sources down below.
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- A relevant clip from one of the songs of the album is used to discuss some verses mentioned in one of the sources.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Here's a more detailed breakdown of a sample of the sources used:
Sleep like a pillow's interview has most of the info known about Parannoul, supporting many claims such as they being unknown in real life and the specific references/inspirations from the Lily Chou-chou movie.
From the Parannoul interview on Sonemic you can know a bit more about the artist. There, you can check many of the claims in the Composition section, like how they recorded the album with a Samsung Galaxy S5, the inspiration for sampling from Bulssazo and the distortion of drums from nouns, and how it was envisioned as a concept album and the interpretation of its story and ending, among other things.
Stereogum's "Stream Parannoul’s Bedroom Shoegaze Blast To See The Next Part Of The Dream" has the Bandcamp message of the album. It also mentions the "depression, personal struggle, and rock star dreams" that led to Parannoul making the album.
From Woove's "An Interview with Longinus Records" you can check the fact that the label had its origins in their physical release of To See The Next Part of The Dream
Woove's "A Conversation With: 파란노을 (Parannoul)" mentions the popularity of the album on Rate Your Music, which you can check in the 2021 chart of the site, with the record sitting at #11 for that year. Newsis' article mentions it too, together with the popularity on YouTube. IZM article mentions the popularity on Reddit.
I checked every other single claim, and found no issues.