Talk:Socialism (disambiguation)
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Why this article?
I noted an article by that name was suppressed 5 years ago, in 2005. A posteriori, I consider that suppression was not a good idea, because in 2010 there is no common point neither in ideology nor in what they are between for instances socialists republics which is a form of constitution of eastern countries during the cold war, and french socialist party which is a pragmatic political party nowadays. I noted a disambiguation page does exist for Republicans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican , and in one way it is justified because there is no common point neither in ideology nor in what they are between republicans from United States and republicans from Spanish Civil War.
Moreover I add that, in my opinion, the socialism article as it exists today in wikipedia looks like an article about republicans could look like if it tries to synthesizes as a same concept in a single article: the ideology in support of republics or against monarchy; Classical republicanism; Irish republicanism, Roman Republic, and republicans during Spanish Civil War.
To conclude, of course that when mixing such information make sense it can be mixed; but elsewhere it is non-sense to mix unrelated information; wikipedia should be clear, consistent, accurate and efficient. For efficiency, think to the reader who search information about socialism as in cold war, but also think to people who search for information on Chinese socialism doctrine, but also to those European people who search for or translate literally information on their political party. A disambiguation page is useful.
Although, because I am not fluent in English I hope you will improve the English wikipedia without me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.44.229 (talk) 18:54, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- The page was deleted before because it was very tiny. It's now been expanded significantly, so the reasons for deletion don't exist now. Moreover, the criterion under which its deletion has been requested only permits deletion if the old version and the new version are essentially the same: this is now vastly different from the original version, so there's no way that it should be deleted. Nyttend (talk) 23:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Lede
Republicanism has an introduction which might be good and adapted to this page: Republicanism is the ideology of governing a nation as a republic, where the head of state is appointed by means other than heredity, often elections. The exact meaning of republicanism varies depending on the cultural and historical context. Several definitions are covered in this article. could give:
- Socialism is an ideology which consider capitalism issues. The exact meaning of socialism varies depending on the cultural and historical context. Several definitions are covered in this article.87.89.44.229 (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Questionable edit
I find [1] to be extremely concerning. I have replaced deleted material and asking for further discussion here. Please note per the spirit of WP:COMMONNAME we are supposed to cover the most common usages. 73.222.1.26 (talk) 19:10, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
I replaced democratic socialism and social democracy again. If they are deleted again I will call for an RFC. 73.222.1.26 (talk) 00:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Removed variants of socialism
Variants of socialist philosophy or systems (such as "social democracy" or "state socialism") aren't appropriate for the disambiguation page, as they are covered in the main article. The disambiguation page is for different subjects/concepts that might be used interchangebly in common parlance (such as Socialist states or Marxism, which are distinct from socialism). I have therefore removed "social democracy" from the disambiguation page. -Battlecry 13:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)