Talk:Paul Pressler
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This article contains only one reference to the fact that Pressler is chief executive officer of the Gap; the rest is a laborious rehash of his tenure with Disney, which seems extremely lopsided.
- I have nothing to do with this article, but is your objection that there is no information about Pressler being CEO of Gap, Inc., or that the Disney information is somehow biased? If it is the former as your comment might lead one to believe, perhaps using Template:expand on the article might be better. If you think the Disney information is biased, list what your objections are so that they can be addressed by someone familiar with the subject. — Bellhalla 04:18, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed. --Speedway 16:27, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I also have nothing to do with this article, but I would agree both that the article is negligent insofar as it makes almost no mention of Pressler's current employment, and also the article is not impartial in its exposition of Pressler's previous job in that it seems to have been written by a person with strong, biased feelings about his tenure at Disney.
Specifically, comments such as the following -- presented as fact -- are difficult to verify and seem difficult to believe: "[Pressler] believed that eating and shopping was the only reason people came to Disneyland." Similarly, many statements presented as fact are simply untrue, e.g.: "[Disney management] could not ignore the deafening outcries of Disney park fans, and Pressler and Harriss left for The Gap, Inc., amid much the disapproval of the park." While there may have been complaints about Pressler and Harriss, it is hardly true that these complaints form the impetus for their departure.
In short, this article is not in keeping with the spirit of Wikipedia, as it presents only a narrow view of the subject matter, is clearly biased, and in general serves as more of an editorial article than a presentation of impartial fact.206.16.32.135 20:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
"Pressler was letting negligence increase at Disney theme parks all over the world" is one of many unsubstantiated allegations against Pressler. Where do we have any proof that negligence went up at Disneyland theme parks all over the world or that Pressler was somehow 'letting' this happen? I was a Disneyland employee in the mid 80s. I worked as an Attractions Host in Tomorrowland. It bothered me immensely when Pressler redid Tomorrowland as every ride I worked was destroyed. And I have said some of the same things that this article says as far as his emphasis on marketing and not 'getting' the spirit of Disneyland. However, it's disconcerting to find an article in a source that proports to be neutral be so blatantly biased. Wikipedia article cannot simply repeat unsubstantiated accusations. I don't see how the article can be cleaned up without removing most of it, as its essence is an attack on Pressler, and I don't know enough about him to rewrite it from scratch. Ycartreel 18:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
While I would prefer all controversial stuff removed totally, upon reflection, the negative opinions of Pressler's tenure are fact, as easily documented at mouseplanet.com. So I did a severe edit of the existing material on that, attempting to state the fan/employee objections in a neutral manner. Also, I took out the stuff about Harriss' performance as it's not relevant to Pressler, and this is HIS entry.
The article is still not neutral, in my opinion, however. Pressler's tenure at Disney certainly had controversy for a small group of interested observers and parkgoers, but he clearly presided over a period of growth and profit, and that angle should be an important part of this profile.ycartreel 19:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
It's a few months late, but hopefully I've cleaned up some of the bias that was in the previous entry.--Hastin 10:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
This article makes Pressler seem like a hero for WDC. Over at the Disney store, where he should have stayed, sure- he did great. And yes- he did expand DLR. Helped negotiate HKDL. But he also wanted to build everything on the cheap, including DCA, and brought horrible things to the parks. He hurt more than he helped in reality. DCA was a disaster and its just been these recent years that Disney has realized this and are starting to improve DCA. This article does not reflect the reality of things.68.212.152.80 14:31, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't work for Disney and merely go to their themeparks. However, EVERY article and EVERY word of mouth mention I have ever heard of this guy was NEGATIVE. It would seem that every subordinate and employee thought he was doing everything on the cheap and not of the "Disney" heritage. It's got to be frustrating to the writer's of this article that none of this can be conveyed since it all "opinion" and cannot be verefied. After all, does one verify that someone is not well liked and was depised by his employees? Nobody said the guy was Hitler and evil, it just that the people that worked for him didnt like him and the devil in the details showed he cut corners. Its also apparent that they over saturation of Disney stores and the building of California Adventure by NON Disney engineers and developers were HUGE mistakes and only some of the decsions he made. Of course, even though it is fact that he made the decisions to carry out the plans, its all a matter of opinion of economic experts and Disney afficianados that they were dumb mistakes and of course, cannot be verefied as fact. Therefore, this article is a whitewash of his idiotic cost cutting and company hurtful decision to pinch pennies rather than provide Disney quality content. Being PC has never been more frustating when reading a Wikipedia article ;) Buggsbuny (talk) 17:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
New Employer
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20090716/FREE/907169991
Crain's Business reports Mr Pressler has accepted a job with Clayton Dubilier & Rice, a Private Equity firm in New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.68.117 (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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Paul Pressler is not the hero this article makes him appear to be. While the article credits Pressler with the expansion of the Disneyland Resort, it downplays the criticism he received for the new Tomorrowland of 1998 and Disney's California Adventure in 2001.
The article also implies that, despite the harsh criticism that Pressler received, the company saw record profits in the theme park division. This may be true, but these "record profits" were actually short-term accomplishments that did long-term damage to the company's heritage and success. Lastly, the events of September 11, 2001 should not have been exploited to imply the reason for an attendance decline. Disney's California Adventure was already experiencing poor attendance since its opening day on February 8, 2001. Just read the Wikipedia article on Disney's California Adventure and the park's initial lack of success. It wasn't until October 17, 2007 that the new leadership of the Walt Disney Company announced a $1.1 billion dollar plan to revamp Pressler's highly criticized attempt at creating a new Disney theme park. Code90 (talk) 20:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC) I would like to see sources for these claims: Pressler joined The Disney Store as president in 1993 and many herald his period presiding over the chain of stores as the best in the its history. The store opened up hundreds of new shops all over the world and was making larger profits for the company than the legendary Walt Disney Feature Animation at one point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.18.239 (talk) 09:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC) |
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