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What about Egypt?!
This topic is missing an important component, if it wasn’t for Cairo opera house, Verdi wouldn’t have been commissioned and paid to compose his most famous work Aïda! I find it ridiculous to talk about the Azerbaijani and Turkish opera and even the Russian one without talking about Egypt’s role! 87.8.139.212 (talk) 22:46, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Is there Egyptian opera? Because Verdi's - even if performed in Cairo - is Italian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- That topic is already covered thoroughly at Opera in Arabic. There isn’t really much to say on the topic, as Western operas have typically been imported to Egypt and sung in their original languages rather than originating in Egypt and sung in Arabic. The most notable exceptions to that are included in that article. Aida, while certainly linked to the history of Western opera in Egypt, is written in the Italian tradition of opera and by a seminal Italian composer in the Italian language. It isn’t an “Egyptian opera” in terms of its cultural and language origins (even if set in Egypt and commissioned for performance in Egypt), being written by Italians in a thoroughly Italian style. The Russian and Czech cultures have produced many operas in their languages and from stories from their cultures that have had a wide impact on the standard opera repertory globally; something that can not be said for the Arabic world as a whole, including Egypt. As such, they rightly deserve more emphasis in this article. We could include a short summation of opera in Arabic in the opera article. 4meter4 (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- If you can provide WP:RS then editors can add it in, if not, sadly it will fall under WP:OR. Eruditess (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- That topic is already covered thoroughly at Opera in Arabic. There isn’t really much to say on the topic, as Western operas have typically been imported to Egypt and sung in their original languages rather than originating in Egypt and sung in Arabic. The most notable exceptions to that are included in that article. Aida, while certainly linked to the history of Western opera in Egypt, is written in the Italian tradition of opera and by a seminal Italian composer in the Italian language. It isn’t an “Egyptian opera” in terms of its cultural and language origins (even if set in Egypt and commissioned for performance in Egypt), being written by Italians in a thoroughly Italian style. The Russian and Czech cultures have produced many operas in their languages and from stories from their cultures that have had a wide impact on the standard opera repertory globally; something that can not be said for the Arabic world as a whole, including Egypt. As such, they rightly deserve more emphasis in this article. We could include a short summation of opera in Arabic in the opera article. 4meter4 (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Should redirect to Western Opera
Article redirects from a search for "Western opera," but it should be the other way around until a more general "opera" entry is created.
Article does not distinguish between operatic traditions in the Western world and those of other regions with Music theatre practices now referred to as "opera." Caersun (talk) 04:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- musical theatre* Caersun (talk) 04:22, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Edit: Music theater and musical theater are wrong terms. More accurately, article does not distinguish between Western opera and song-and-theater practices in other regions also called opera. Caersun (talk) 04:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- No. The redirect at Western opera and this article name are correct per WP:COMMONNAME. As expected, this article mentions other national operas and musical theatre, Victorian burlesques, operettas, Savoy operas, rock musicals; it doesn't mention rock operas which is understandable because, as that article says, those "are typically released as concept albums and are not scripted for acting". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Edit: Music theater and musical theater are wrong terms. More accurately, article does not distinguish between Western opera and song-and-theater practices in other regions also called opera. Caersun (talk) 04:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)