Talk:Manjappada

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A fact from Manjappada appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 January 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that Manjappada (pictured), a supporters' group of Kerala Blasters FC, coordinated and brought forty-one busloads of their fans across Kerala to the venue for the opening match of the 2019–20 season? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Manjappada.

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Given its history this page should be considered as the primary page for the supporters of Kerela Blasters FC. If and when this get converted to an article that is the time the a page rename/move can be discussed. Attempts other than to use this name without discussion will likely be seen as attempts to circumvent various XfD and DRV discussions and will likely be treated as disruptive. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: ArnabSaha (talk · contribs) 07:55, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

• Why its named "Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans" instead of just Manjappada? I couldn't even find this in fanclub's website.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Citations aren't properly formatted. Like author's name, source date missing.  Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Awards and recognition" - this part is unsourced.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Swap the positions of "controversy" and "Awards" section.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "...claimed them as Manjappada members" - the citation doesnt say this. It says, "member of manjappada"  Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Chants and tifos" - the section says noting about chants.  DoneShahoodu (talk) 07:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Integrate "Women's group" in history. its just a single sentence para. (MOS:PARA)  Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Add English translations for non-English citations.  Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Citation [40] is a dead link.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Manjappada have an ... games to fans." - unencyclopaedic.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Awards and recognition" add prose to this section.  Done Poppified (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• An image is notimated for deletion. Done Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Avoid caps in citations like in citation [23]. (WP:ALLCAPS)  Done Iamfarzan (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Break the lead into 2 parts and expand them a bit.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 14:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs a lit bit more expansion. Add the establishment time, travelling fans, yellow colour. This would be my final point of the review.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  12:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)  Done Poppified (talk) 13:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Citation doesn't say manjappda won 2020 fan club award.  DoneShahoodu (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• How boycotting matches is a controversy?  Done Shahoodu (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• The lead should compile all the info present in the body. But things like Indian Sports Honours, 14 districts etc. aren't present in the body. DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It says "12 other Indian states" but, not mentioned in the body.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  07:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Comment: I missed to add 12. Now its  Done Shahoodu (talk) 09:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Avoid citations in lead. (WP:CITELEAD) DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• For the chant, use {{Quote box}} instead of the existing {{Quote}}  Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Mention with citation that manjappada means yellow army, in the body. DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Not everyone who... - this starts with quotation, but doesn't end.  DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• I don't think its required to mention "The 12th Man" in the lead. Its a normal thing for all the clubs. Nothing distinct. Even there's a article on this 12th man (football).  DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• If there's not specific author of any source, nothing required to mention. Like its mentioned 'no-author' incitation [48]. its not required  DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This still exists. Like in citation [30] Goal is written in author's name.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  06:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)  Done Iamfarzan (talk) 06:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• The citation [39] doesn't prove this "The group wear as..."  Done
• Use – between years. (2020–21, instead of 2020-21)  DoneShahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Citation [90] is a blog. Need a another source (WP:BLOG). Comment: Couldnt fins better source. So removed it from lede and body  Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• It mentions "ISL" multiple times. A first time reader will have no idea what ISL is. Add "Indian Super League (ISL)" wherever its mentioned first.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 06:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Citation [13] doesnt say, Manjapadda is spread accross 44 countries.
  • Comment: Added proper citation  Done Shahoodu (talk) 08:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• " ..49,000 during the inaugural season" - link the inaugural season with the season article.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "...150 flags are used for each game." - citation doesn't say 150 flags. Try to solve the data issues like these.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "The active social ... to fans." - Even smaller fanclubs provide regular updates in social media. so, I dont think, its required to mention.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Add "rivalry", "other activities" in the lead as the lead summarises everything in the body.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 17:05, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• In the infobox, |Abbreviation=Manjappada. How?? Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Wikilink 'keralite' in the body  Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• citation [71] is a dead link  Done Poppified (talk) 16:25, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• citation [40] is in malayalam. but the title mentioned in ref is in english only. DonePoppified (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• in citation [87], instead of "Manjappada | Heart Beat of Kerala Blasters.", mention only "manjappada"  Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "I can only wish it wont happen again" - won't  Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "The event was a initiative aimed at honouring sports" - "an initiative"  Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Manjappada members occupies it during" -- "occupy"  Done Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "the West Block Blues, the largest supporters' group of Bengaluru FC" - citation doesnt say its the largest Done Poppified (talk) 10:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Any dimensions available for the tifo? if yes, add it.  Done Poppified (talk)
• In the section "Chants and tifos", it starts with "Apart from their official anthem, Manjappada..." - I would suggest adding some details for the anthem. search some Malayalam sources. Done Poppified (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• wikilink the first "Kerala" in the body  Done Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• add an external links section and put the website there.  Done Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• As of when manjapadda is spread over 12 states, 14 districts, 44 countries? and avoid using "currently" (WP:Currently)  Done Poppified (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any other issues.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The first sentence in the lead - 'Manjappada are the organised supporters' group of KBFC"... are they the only organised fan group? I suggest changing the to an, or, if you have a source for it, the largest. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 07:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Changed the into an  Done Shahoodu (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• At the logo page provide rationales for WP:NFCC#1 and WP:NFCC#2, i.e. for why it is not replaceable by free-use media and why you think it won't hurt the owners commercially, ASAP. (Second point is not too important, but do try to justify NFCC#1). If you cannot then explain why. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 07:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 DonePoppified (talk) 11:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• During the 2018–19 season, the Blasters were winless in 14 games and fans became dissatisfied with the management's indifference towards them. Although Manjappada boycotted a December 2018 game against Jamshedpur FC,[19] "We don’t intend to boycott our club’s matches, since our motto is 'Nammalk Nammalund' ('We have us')" stated the group. - not really sure what this means  DoneShahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• The "Manjappada stand" originated in 2014, during the Blasters' first season.[ - what is this? :Clarified  DoneShahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Id argue that culture section needs a rewrite - most of it is obvious, or pointless.  Done Shahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• There's a few refs that have weird |work parameters, such as Sportskeeda APP is the No 1 Personalised Sports APP available today. Just select your fav teams & players and you are done.  Done. Iamfarzan (talk) 13:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 16:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Manjappada displaying a tifo

• ... that Manjappada (roadshow pictured) is the largest supporters group of the Kochi-based football club Kerala Blasters FC, which competes in the Indian Super League, the top tier of Indian football? Source: https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/manjappada-diehard-kerala-blasters-fan-group-s-making-waves-111908

Improved to Good Article status by Iamfarzan (talk) and Poppified (talk). Nominated by Iamfarzan and Poppified.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - the citation doesn't say this.
• Interesting: - self-promotional.

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed:
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px: - the image quality isn't good

QPQ: None required.

Overall: the same issue was pointed out in the GA review, regarding the use of the word "largest". (Another thing, this is my first DYK review. If there's any issue/mistake in the review, please inform)  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  06:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Please don't overwrite existing hooks. If you have a new alt or additions to an old one, please post them at the bottom with a new alt number, like ALT1, ALT2, ALT3, etc.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  07:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• ALT1: ... that Manjappada (pictured) is the one of the largest supporters group of the Kochi-based football club Kerala Blasters FC, which competes in the Indian Super League, the top tier of Indian football?

• The current image is simply too dark in many places. And there's still issue with the hook.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  07:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT2: ... that Forty-one busloads of Manjappada (pictured) members from across Kerala arrived at Kochi's Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium for the 2019–20 season opener against ATK on 20 October 2019 ? Source: https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/manjappada-diehard-kerala-blasters-fan-group-s-making-waves-111908
• ArnabSaha, is this fine? Iamfarzan (talk) 09:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Iamfarzan Looks good, but it doesn't say that all of them were manjapdda members. The source say that they were KBFC.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  10:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• ArnabSaha, from the source "The fan group ( that is manjappada) was able to coordinate and bring fans to the venue in 41 buses, a feat none of the other fan clubs in ISL have been able to manage so far." that means it's valid I think.Iamfarzan (talk) 11:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Iamfarzan "bring fans to the venue" - fans and members of manjappada are technically different. all members are fans but all fans aren't members of a fanclub.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  12:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3: ...that Manjappada (pictured) , the supporters group of Kerala Blasters FC coordinated and brought Forty-one busloads of their fans across Kerala to Kochi's Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium for the 2019–20 season opener against ATK on 20 October 2019 ? Source: https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/manjappada-diehard-kerala-blasters-fan-group-s-making-waves-111908
• ArnabSaha, is this fine?Bestwishes Poppified (talk) 14:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now. Needs some minor changes. Maybe this...  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  14:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT4: ...that Manjappada, the supporters' group of Kerala Blasters FC (pictured) coordinated and brought forty-one busloads of their fans across Kerala to the venue for the 2019–20 season opener against ATK on 20 October 2019?

• ArnabSaha , this one looks good.And about the image it's been updated in commons.I think it's better now.Can you cross check it? Bestwishes Poppified (talk) 14:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Shortened.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  14:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• ALT5: ... that Manjappada, the supporters' group of Kerala Blasters FC (pictured) coordinated and brought forty-one busloads of their fans across Kerala to the venue for the 2019–20 season opener match?

• ArnabSaha , this one looks better now.BestwishesPoppified (talk) 15:05, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done ALT5.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  15:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Manjappada roadshow

• I've restored the other image here. I think it's much more interesting and eye-catching than the one above. The promoter can decide. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]