Talk:List of sitting judges of the high courts of India
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Proper use of citations
Sid54126 et al: Some comments on Sections and the use of footnotes in this article:
- Sections
- may not have wikilinks – see MOS:SECTIONS. Sections must be plain text.
- may not contain references – see MOS:SECTIONS. References must be with the content, not the title of the section.
- Footnotes
- Placement after: – Citations are generally placed after the material they support, not before, therefore they cannot appear at the beginning of a table, intending to source every row that follows. See Help:Footnotes.
- One is not enough for 60kb of table data – This is a wiki; anyone may come in afterward, and edit the table, adding perhaps accidentially incorrect, or even intentionally falsified material to new rows in the table; clearly, a single reference at the top cannot be used as justification for material added later. You will need to cite every row, but this need not be burdensome:
- Use named refs and {{R}} – Citations must be placed after the information, and generally, this means row by row. See WP:NAMEDREFS and template {{R}} for a way to do this, using only eight extra characters per line, e.g.,
{{R|:2}}
.
- Use named refs and {{R}} – Citations must be placed after the information, and generally, this means row by row. See WP:NAMEDREFS and template {{R}} for a way to do this, using only eight extra characters per line, e.g.,
For an example of an article containing a large table, which uses citations properly, please see List of metro systems#List. They go one step further, using citations in every cell of a row, which is the gold standard. In our case here, at least with the example below, one citation per row should be sufficient, as the same reference covers each column data item for that judge.
I've demonstrated how to fix this article, by doing the first five rows of one table for you, as an example. I used section Allahabad High Court for this:
- Removed the link from the section title, as required; this section is now entitled, Allahabad High Court – in plain text (no wikilink).
- Removed the reference "www.allahabadhighcourt.in" from the section header.
- Added that reference, to row one of the table (Govind Mathur). This is the reference containing the full citation that was previously embedded in the section title.
- Added a name for that reference, namely,
:2
. (This name was chosen to facilitate reuse and expansion by those using Visual Editor.) - In rows 2–5, used the {{R}} template to reuse the named ref from row one; this is only eight characters in the wikicode:
{{R|:2}}
. All of these rows link to the same reference as Govind Mathur, and fulfill the requirements of Wikpedia policy on verifiability. Procedure is slightly different with Visual editor; ask for help if you need it.
Now you just have to repeat that same citation in the remaining rows iof the table. Then, follow the same sequence of steps with the other tables, according to the model above. A regex-replace expression can be setup to add the named citation to every row after the first row in one step. Ask if you need help with that. Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 09:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Sid54126: thanks for your attempt to add citations in this edit. The idea to add a rowspan=60 table attribute was a clever one, but unfortunately, it doesn't scale well into the future. If you could freeze the article forever so that it would never change, then it would be fine. Unfortunately, this is a wiki, and as people add new information to the table which, perhaps, depend on different sources (or no sources at all, in the case of vandalism), your rowspanned reference cell will appear to also source the newly added data, when it should not. This is essentially the same reason why you cannot put a reference into the table header, because you don't know what rows, or cells, it really applies to. I've reverted this change. Mathglot (talk) 10:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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Suggestion for other pages relating to Indian Judiciary
Would suggest that two more pages be set up
One showing details of former judges of different high courts and a consolidated list as that done for "List of sitting judges of the high courts of India"
Another showing details of former Chief justices of different high courts and a consolidated list as that done for "List of sitting judges of the high courts of India" 117.247.31.136 (talk) 03:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)