Talk:List of androgens and anabolic steroids

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I propose merging this article, List of androgens and anabolic steroids, with List of androgens and anabolic steroids (alternate). Both articles deal with the same topic of steroids and thus separate articles would be redundant. Further, reasonably no article should have a title that reads "(alternate)", there should not be alternative articles for any topic. Frank_{(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion)} 04:49, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The second page comes off as a draft or duplicate that didn't get cleaned up. The original author is an active editor, @AlyInWikiWonderland: Should List of androgens and anabolic steroids (alternate) be moved to draft space? Merged? Deleted? ⇌ Synpath 00:33, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am no longer editing in this area. Both lists are useful in different ways. The second one is handy as a simple uncluttered list, whereas the first one is useful for more detailed structural information. I would consider renaming/moving the lists and keeping them separate as opposed to merging them or deleting one of them. Perhaps the second one could be renamed to "List of androgens and anabolic steroids" and the first one could be renamed to a title that highlights the more in-depth structural-focused aspect of the page. Anyway that's all I have to say on this topic. – AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 00:50, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I don't see the point of having the list and the structural table be on separate pages, due to the redundancy. Both articles are lists and thus should not by themselves carry (much) in-depth information. Frank_{(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion)} 14:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to come back for comment, much appreciated ⇌ Synpath 14:47, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The pages are very redundant and I think a merge makes sense. The issue is how to simplify these lists to make them readable/navigable while still being informative – we have two approaches.

I prefer using the tables as in this list article (and support merging the 'alternate' page into the tables), but using fewer section headers that break the tables up (e.g. make Prohormone-like and Prodrug sectioning/labelling part of the table). Brief definitions of marketed, prohormone-like and prodrug should be included as footnotes to the table.

So, the info that can be merged from the '(alternate)' page is the natural vs synthetic steroid division, acronyms, non-duplicate entries and binning molecules as testosterone derivatives, dihydrotestosterone derivatives, 19-Nortestosterone derivatives and other (which seems reasonable unless there is a functional division that makes sense). I can do this over a few days. ⇌ Synpath 15:08, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]