Talk:Jack White/Archive 1
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Genres
Wouldn't it be worthwhile to list bluegrass as one of his genres, considering the Cold Mountain soundtrack? ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.40.118.106 (talk) 00:29, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Solo Album NOT TRUE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkuYxRzEM10&feature=related < SKIP TO 5:10. JACK WHITE SAYS HIMSELF HE NEVER ANNOUNCED ANYTHING ABOUT A SOLO ALBUM.
The solo album was announced today. Article --BungieJump (talk) 01:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Should we add this album to his discography section? --BungieJump (talk) 03:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Notable Information
I think it would be notable if someone could find and source information on Jack's ethnicity and current religious standing (still Catholic? attend church?, etc.). Anyone agree? MafiaCapo 18:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I have seen/read (sorry, don't have a citation) that Jack's family is Scottish. Jack went through a kilt-wearing phase, and Gillis could certainly be of Scottish origin. --Minerva9 07:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Jack White's ancestors on his father's side (Gillis) came from Scotland, his grandparents on his mother's side came from Poland... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.93.145 (talk) 01:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC) I thought he beat up Ryan Adams? Why is this not in here? I mean that's almost as cool as his music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.99.55.125 (talk) 21:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
As far back as has been traced (the early 19th century), Jack White's ancestry on his father's side is in Nova Scotia, Canada. Further tracing his family's ancestry would probably lead to Scotland, but there is no certifiable proof yet. His mother's parents were both from Poland. Both of Jack's parents were born in the United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.181.125.61 (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
There is a youtube clip named "Jack White sings Cherry lips" where Jack gets a presents by Shirley Manson of Garbage and he jokes "From one Scot to another...". Not much of a proof, I know. ;-) Civil Disobedience (talk) 02:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
misc.
There is an error in the article in the first sentence: "; )" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.251.128.197 (talk) 15:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Jack White is perhaps the most incredible musician alive. Ever. That's right. Jack White is a genius and should be addressed as one. His wife, Karen Elson, has been reported as pregnant. She is due in spring. But I love him.
nah he's not all that, he just speaks the truth and nowadays that's so "new" that makes him look like some kind of fucking god or whatsoever. hm he must have some spanish or italian blood (gillis), right? all the articles have something about this and this one has nothing. why?
Added a sentence (with link to an article) about his daughter's surname, since there has been a lot of discussion about whether it's White, Gillis, or Elson on various message boards in the past two days and I thought a clear answer would be useful.
- Someone changed the sentence, so I corrected it back to White. I think most people know that his legal last name has been White since his marriage to Meg. If there's going to be any controversy about that, then it should have a separate section in Talk, but I don't think there is, so I won't bother to set one up. Ariadne55 06:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Jack white has also confirmed in an interview that his favorite number is the number 4.
But in another interview White declared that his favorite number is the number 3, that's why, in fact, his company name is "Third Man Records" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.241.149.25 (talk) 03:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Photo
Maybe we could add a new photograph? While I like the picture of him performing, his face is concealed by his hair and the microphone. --buck 17:43, 29 November 2005 (UTC) Jack white IS the best person alive on this planet. He is also the most talented and, everything else. i hope he will become a legend and people will always know him.
- I agree about the picture. You can't see his face at all...Starla Dear 16:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thirded... that, and he looks much different now :P
- Yes, we need a new picture. He doesn't even wear those costumes anymore. A live picture of him with his leather jacket would be fantastic.
the photo is awful, there many other options —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.73.92 (talk) 12:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Is it possible to put videos on here? If so you should add Conquest. I love that music video. ROCK ON WHITE STRIPES! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.213.22.120 (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I found two good pictures that you can use.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jack-White/24262401192#/photo.php?pid=718652&id=24262401192
http://i36.tinypic.com/s17y2q.jpg
you would have to edit the second one a little bit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.250.243 (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- It would be a copyright violation to use those images. --JD554 (talk) 08:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I would like to suggest that the recent edit made to the main photo on Jack White's page be reverted. You can't see any of the Jack White's face or guitar, and it seems odd for Ruby Amanfu's back side to be in the photo obstructing the main subject. Can we gain consensus revert back to the previous photo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Jack_White_Ottawa.jpg/220px-Jack_White_Ottawa.jpg) where Jack's face and guitar and clearly visible. Rainontin (talk) 23:18, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Influences
- There needs to be an addition to this article about the people Jack White ripped off, or were influenced by, for example, Billy Childish.
Currently, White is touring the new White Stripes album as well as working with local singer "Brendan Benson" to create a new collaboration album which has been compared to Nirvana's classic Nevermind.
Who compared it to Nevermind, praytell? ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 18:32, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
Brendan Benson himself I believe.
Jack White is also related to Canadian Buddy MacMaster, the famous "Master of the Cape Breton Fiddle" and uncle of fiddler Natalie MacMaster.
In many Scottish papers he claims his family are from the Highlands (Roman Catholics) and has been pictured several times with a kilt.
I've got first hand information that the new Brendan / Jack project is not going to be called the Raconteurs. There's already a band with that name, and they won't let them use it. --Unclevortex 9 July 2005 04:50 (UTC)
I think it worth mentioning that Jack White has stated that their is a mix up and that he does not compare it too Nevermind. He said that his friend had been misrepresented in quote. I guess it is Brandon Benson or a friend of his who heard the album about six months before it came out and he had also heard Nevermind about six months 'fore its release. Here is a link to an article found on google news. http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=20123 Also the Raconteurs will be in Austin soon :) but I suppose that is really irrelevant on a forums such as this. 69.149.35.116 03:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Copyvio?
Looks like a major portion of the "Producer" section is a cut 'n paste from VH1.com and/or MTV. -- Dave C.talk | Esperanza 06:57, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- This appears to have been cleaned in place. -Splashtalk 23:33, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Three Quid
I think the entire name change is this article was a bit hasty. I think it should certainly be included, and it's also cool that wikipedians are on info like this so quickly. But from reports, it seems White is doing this as a shout out to his British fans (since they use the term "quid" there for money) and by some reports, will only do this through the end of his British tour.[1] [2] [3] [4]. I would propose that we revert this article to pre-quid, but keep the part about the name changes, explaining the confusion about his intentions. Three quid can even be included in his name in the intro paragraph a la Sean "Diddy" Combs.
He said he wants everybody to call him Three Quid. I don't see how it could be any more clear than that. We need to accept his new name. --Sonjaaa 19:28, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I agree that changing the article was too much. Lots of celebrities have entertained changes in professional names--the aforementioned Sean Combs as well as Ol' Dirty Bastard, Snoop Dogg, Pamela Anderson, on and on. Some are temporary publicity stunts (as I feel is the case with this "Three Quid" business), some are contractual, some are legal. In the case of this article, the man has made his career under the name of Jack White, as well as it being his legal name. Why not keep the article under the Jack White title and mention in the introductory paragraph that he also uses the name Three Quid, along with a redirect? --buck 20:44, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would propose keeping him as Jack White for the time being. If a reasonable amount of time passes and he sticks with the Three Quid thing, then it might be time to retitle the article. But he's been Jack White since he married Meg, that's what he's been for almost all of his public life, and that's how most people know him.Bjones 14:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, and besides, if we are keeping "Three Quid" (which I propose we DON'T), someone is going to have to change all the linking articles that mention Jack White. It should also be noted that I can find no mention of the name change on the White Stripes official website, which still refers to him by his legal name (as of 11/3). And furthermore, as has been said earlier, Jack himself said that he's changed his name for the duration of the European tour, which ends November 20th anyway. I think this was simply an unfunny joke at rapper 50 Cent, who has a biopic film opening this week. --buck 15:10, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
fine now someone just need to fix it 20:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- True. I elect Sonjaaa. --buck 21:12, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Since Sonjaaa dissents with the decision, I'll do it.--Esprit15d 13:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Mr Quid confirmed his name change at Alexandra Palace. Also, Meg has been renamed Penny Farthing - Xed 21:00, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Rename
(see talk above. If name change is permanent, can be reverted)
- Jack -- Get rid of this "Three Quid" stuff. Every reference to the incident points to it being a temporary name lasting through the UK tour (which concludes next week), and nothing more than a lame joke at that. In fact, I'm not sure a mention of "Three Quid" is even necessary in the article, as other celebrity articles don't analyze in such depths every silly thing a famous person says. --buck 21:00, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- I tend to agree. It looks like we need an admin to move it back.Bjones 02:01, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- Moved on 14 November 2005 by Sonjaaa. —Slicing (talk) 01:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
First marriage for both?
In the part where White married Elson, it says that it was the first marraige for both. Didn't Jack marry Meg earlier? (and divorce) --S-man 06:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't say that. Read it carefully, the difference is important. It says "Official wedding announcements stated that it was the first marriage for both." That is true; that is what official wedding announcements stated. The article leaves it to you to draw conclusions (form opinions) about that. Notinasnaid 08:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- hey any reason the MEG White article is more clear and simple when it comes to the marriage of Jack and Meg? Whereas the JACK article has any mention of it way at the bottom and is totally ambiguous, almost mysterious... which is better for an encyclopedia (i.e. which has sources that can be cited that support the claim 'early on they claimed to be siblings' and/or 'Jack in his usual uncharastic style took HER last name'... etc. 96.52.156.110 (talk) 15:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- WTF? The caption on one of the photos identifies Meg White as Jack's ex-wife. The Whites are neither siblings nor ex-spouses. They are 2 people who have the same rather common last name that formed a duet using their name. Why does this confusion still exist?TodKarlson (talk) 07:42, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
- hey any reason the MEG White article is more clear and simple when it comes to the marriage of Jack and Meg? Whereas the JACK article has any mention of it way at the bottom and is totally ambiguous, almost mysterious... which is better for an encyclopedia (i.e. which has sources that can be cited that support the claim 'early on they claimed to be siblings' and/or 'Jack in his usual uncharastic style took HER last name'... etc. 96.52.156.110 (talk) 15:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
mug shot
i think the mug shot link should be pulled from the external links section. i mean, is it really necessary to have a photo like that up on his wiki page ? i guess it won't really repel people from his music, since the music speaks for itself. just wanted to suggest having that link taken down, anyone out to argue against it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leezy8 (talk • contribs) .
- On the contrary, mug shots are splendid things! Such images are in the public domain, so we don't need to argue fair use on them - see Category:Mug shots. The image wants to be uploaded to commons:, really, if it's not there already. It's not that bad a picture, actually. I think we should place it in the article somewhere, not just link to it. Flowerparty■ 01:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know...I think we should just link to it. Starla Dear 16:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hahahaha. I think out of all of the celebrity mugshots out there, his turned out quite well! And really... the mugshot contributes significantly towards his character. After all, he is ghostly white with jet black hair and clothes. It's his everyday style!!!
I don't see a link to a mug shot. I am sorry it has been censored. The purpose of this article is not to flatter the subject! Someone please put the link here, and put it back in the article? 69.87.204.146 13:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
With regards to the mugshot, would it not be pertinent to add to his article an explanation for why he was arrested? Surely, by this ommission, the article is incomplete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcswordfish (talk • contribs) 00:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
UK based
I hear that Jack White now resides in the UK permanently. Is this correct?
- It seems unlikely he would abandon his close family ties. Where did you hear that? Notinasnaid 10:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Its because he appeared, with his wife, on The Times rich list for entertainers aged 30 or under from or living in the UK. Karen Elson, his wife, is British; as it was their combined fortune, they got on the list. --Robdurbar 11:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
No, he does not reside in England, although his wife is English Jack3White (talk) 11:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Contradiction
I watched "It Might Get Loud" last night, with Jack White, Jimmy Page and The Edge. Jack White CLEARLY says Meg is his BIG SISTER, numerous times. She is NOT his ex-wife. They are two of ten children.----
From this article : "Jack White formed the White Stripes with his sister Meg White despite rumors that they are ex's." and from the one on Meg: "Despite claims to the contrary, the two are not siblings, but were married in 1996, at which time Jack took Meg's last name, but they divorced in 2000." Which one is it?
- The latter. Will edit the first one. --Robdurbar 10:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
In the "Career" section, it says that Jack met Meg and they were married, but in the "Personal Life" section, it discusses the confusion about whether they were married or if they were siblings. I am confused!
- You're suppose to be. when the White Stripes first made it mainstream both Jack and Meg both wanted to give the impression they were siblings rather than having been married. It took a lot of journalistic digging to finally get to the bottom of it. Their marriage and divorce documents coming to light ended the confusion.69.230.187.199 16:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Really...?
Am i the only one who's surprised that greats like Chet Atkins, Glen Cambell and Joe Walsh of The Eagles are not on the rolling stones list of guitarists, yet jack white is? Weird...
That list is a complete joke, Rolling Stone loves Jack White a little too much, and when the list came out White Stripes hype was in full force. They ranked White above Eddie Van Halen and Derek Trucks. I don't know how Rolling Stone defines greatness in guitar playing, but when it comes to technical skill, Jack should not be in the top 20.
I also noticed that. Neither is Dimebag Darrell (If that is how his name is spelled). Jack is good, but I don't think he should have been #17.
- whilst not a fan of the WS' latest album, there is more to being a great guitarist than technical prowess. --Kaini 03:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Neither Satriani nor Vai are on that list. That's all that needs to be said about it. QuinnHK 02:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Some idiot said "They ranked White above Eddie Van Halen and Derek Trucks. Jack should not be in the top 20." Well, that's misleading, because they put Eddie Van Halen as #70, and Jack White as #17. Clearly, there's a huge gap. Greatness isn't about fast finger tapping and popularity. If popularity and fans were the main factor, John Lennon would be #1 and Fall Out Boy would be in the top ten, along with Eddie Van Halen. Sure a lot of idiots think Eddie Van Halen or Steve Vai are better guitarists, but when it comes down right to it, they're not music experts/critics, magazine editors, or most likely even musicians. Jack White has done better work in one song than Eddie Van Halen's done with his best album (I don't know which one that'd be, they're all pretty much mediocre). 71.238.255.214 (talk) 10:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC) III
Idiots? You know nothing about music if you think steve vai should not be in the top ten guitarists! Same for satriani. You listen to some of their songs and tell me they are not miles ahead of others for skill on the guitar. You may like Jack White or not but just because somebody likes a player dosnt make them a good player. In my opinion Frank Zappa is a much better guitarist than many on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.43.131 (talk) 02:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
i dont know i feel like vai and satriani are just "pure skill" they can play the scales at lightning speed and perfectly, but is that really music does it have any heart or emotion to it. Jack White is up there because he is unique in the present musical landscape, he plays with his heart, watch his performance with the raconteurs at bonaroo playing blue veins. and last but not least he is good, he may not be a vai or a van halen, id say hes more of a page in that he comes up with hard hitting blues/rock riffs, hes definitely going down as one of the greats, if you think about it he might be today only "rock star" he has the presence and attitude and people know him. hes very well respected in the music community by the likes of page and dylan which says a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.255.228 (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Good Article
I've promoted this article. It's nicely written, has plenty of inline citations, and doesn't seem to be too encumbered with bias/personal opinion. Well done. --kingboyk 12:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! --Esprit15d 17:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Aluminium
Why isn't Aluminium mentioned on this page?
Because it is The White Stripes work and not directly Jack White's? Well, done through the White Stripes, not by them. If we put it in Jack's page, would we have to put it in Meg's page as well? Let's not. But it should go in The White Stripe's page.
It says something wrong...
This page says Jack White married Brendan Benson, which isn't true or possible in many parts of the world... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.120.197.66 (talk) 20:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
they were married... a quickie on the last racontour... they kept it on the d/l... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.147.176.237 (talk) 20:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
New acoustic guitar
Does anybody have information on the acoustic guitar Jack used on Get Behind Me Satan. seen on far right here [5] Audioweevil 00:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Surname
Corrected baby's surname, again. IMDB is not an authoritative source. The linked NY Post article that stated Scarlett's surname as White (Jack White's current legal last name) was in a mainstream newspaper and is a far better source. If we're actually going to have to discuss what the artist's last name is, please use legitimate sources. The White's divorce decree is readily available and clearly shows that Jack did not change his last name back to Gillis. Ariadne55 05:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Random Edits
Somebody is continuely adding things in this article. they add the word Penis in random places. This needs to stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edrooney12 (talk • contribs) date
The article mentions that he is able to play the ney. I really can't picture Jack White taking this onstage or into a studio and just start playing it. A friend of mine told me that he played it in the Coca-Cola commerical, but then again, he could've hired any musician to play on that recording. Until a source is found for this, I propose to remove it from the article. - Shaun, 19 August 2007
Early Life Photo
Any reason why there is a picture of Jack in 2005 in the Early Life section? If this picture really needs to be in the article could it not be placed in a different position where it has more significance? Admuz 10:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- That section discusses his appearance on 60 Minutes, and that picture is of him when he was on 60 Minutes.--Esprit15d 12:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I skipped over that point by mistake. Still I don't really see why there needs to be 3 pictures of him so close together in the article Admuz 16:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Bold GA Delist
In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. While all the hard work that has gone into this article is appreciated, unfortunately, as of
November 2,
2007, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GAR.
- The selected events section is a de facto trivia section.
- Needs more referencing, random unverified facts have crept in.
- Poor organization
- Needs a thorough copyediting.--Esprit15d 18:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Married or siblings?
Not to beat a dead horse, but it would seem that the consensus here is that the two were married. They have claimed themselves as being siblings. Is there a definitive source that states one or the other that I just haven't seen? xyz (talk) 23:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, there are many. Read the second paragrah under "Eccentricities" and then look at the sources in the footnotes.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- The White Stripes article is inconsistent with this article then, it says they are siblings.--204.191.199.184 (talk) 07:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
They are most definitely exes. My sister is engaged to his first cousin's son, and she (his first cousin) said Meg definitely wasn't one of her cousins. :Tom Krelick:.
If you watch his new documentary, It Might Get Loud, there's a scene where Jack explains that he tried to distract away from "another white boy playing the blues" by trying to make it more gimmicky, saying he and Meg were brother and sister, using the red/white/black colors, the peppermint design for her bass drum, etc.98.206.60.212 (talk) 20:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
"try his hand in acting"
Uh, that seems kind of biased (negatively), he's already been in a few films--it should just be mentioned in the secion where the other movies are. --68.40.234.167 (talk) 02:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Quantum of Solace theme song, Another Way to Die
I've added a short sentene in the opening paragraphs about White being approached to perform the theme song to the James Bond film Quantum of Solace, something which has been confirmed. However, I must admit I don't know how to do properly put reference coding into the text. Would someone mind doing it for me? Nearly famous writer (talk) 23:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Fame
If this Jack White is so famous, why have I never heard of him? (I've been working and studying hard the past 20 years and so a lot of under the radar acts have past me by.) I just ran across an ad for the new movie "It Might Get Loud" and deciced to look up this musician. His bio sounds interesting, but my thought on all this is that if he is so good and worthy of the accompanied hype, you would be seeing his face everywhere and not Hanna Montana. Maybe someone can add the movie part into the Wiki article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.101.248 (talk) 00:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
It is commonly accepted that Jack White was not famous or talented before he received the Colbert Bump. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.3.148.9 (talk) 23:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
"Altercation" with Jason Stollsteimer of the Von Bondies
Why is it that both Wikipedia articles on Jack White and Jason Stollsteimer, refer to Jack's literal ASSAULT on Jason as an altercation? What nonsense! It was CRIMINAL ASSAULT, not an altercation. White was given 750 hours of Anger Management for the incident, while Jason ended up in the Emergency Room. Here is a link to the result of the "ALTERCATION", displaying a photo of Jason's face:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kjok10TvYqA/SYiT0OHkvHI/AAAAAAAAAI0/vRI9S6GKxU8/s320/JasonStollsteimerAbobo.jpg I realise this is a blog board link but this is the Jack White Talk page. I am sorry but call a spade a spade, and change altercation to the word ASSAULT. This change would still adhere to Wikipedia's standards of neutrality, as it clearly was not an altercation but an attack or assault.
If anyone could elaborate, or make the change (I won't because I know nothing about Jack White), it would be appreciated. --Irshgrl500 10:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Just because this Jason Stollsteimer can't fight doesn't make it not an altercation. Losers of fights are never charged. Jbhf1 (talk) 06:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Present versus Since and Detroit, US
What has WP:OTHER got to do with replacing "YYYY–present" with "Since YYYY"? It makes no mention of it whatsoever. Also Wikipedia:PLACE#United_States makes no mention of not having the country name after a city except for in the city's article. --JD554 (talk) 18:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- The link should be WP:OTHERDATE, and it is very specific regarding the use of "present' in the body of the article. WP:PLACE#United_States clearly states that the form "Detroit, Michigan, USA", eg, should never be used. Radiopathy •talk• 22:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- Section headers aren't the body of an article, they're headers. But that's a moot point now as I've removed the dates from the section headers because the bio isn't chronological anyway. With regard to "Detroit, U.S": You say that WP:PLACE#United_States clearly says it shouldn't be used; however, all I can find is the part which says "Cities listed in the AP Stylebook as not requiring the state modifier [etc]" and the following "A United States city's article should never be titled "city, country" (e.g., "Detroit, United States") or "city, state, country" (e.g., "Kansas City, Missouri, USA")." (my stress). Neither of those preclude using "Detroit, U.S." in an article. --JD554 (talk) 06:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Section headers most certainly are part of the article body; they break the article up into...sections! I've also reverted your deletion of the "As of..." note by the 'Years active' entry in the infobox, per, once again, WP:OTHERDATE: ...it is helpful to other editors to add an HTML comment immediately after such constructions, giving the as-of date, e.g.: <!--as of 10 October 2007-->. Radiopathy •talk• 15:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Section headers aren't the body of an article, they're headers. But that's a moot point now as I've removed the dates from the section headers because the bio isn't chronological anyway. With regard to "Detroit, U.S": You say that WP:PLACE#United_States clearly says it shouldn't be used; however, all I can find is the part which says "Cities listed in the AP Stylebook as not requiring the state modifier [etc]" and the following "A United States city's article should never be titled "city, country" (e.g., "Detroit, United States") or "city, state, country" (e.g., "Kansas City, Missouri, USA")." (my stress). Neither of those preclude using "Detroit, U.S." in an article. --JD554 (talk) 06:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
List of richest British entertainers under 30
"In 2006, it was revealed in the Sunday Times Rich List that White and his British wife Elson had a joint fortune of at least £20 million (US$37 million). This ranked them at seventh place in the list of entertainers under age 30 who were born or live in the United Kingdom, ahead of the likes of Orlando Bloom and Kate Winslet.[62]b[›]
White was born in 1975, making him 31 in 2006. Did the newspaper screw up or am I missing something? Bullzeye contribs 16:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Futurewolf ftw?
Noticing the beginning of the article, I couldn't help but notice a section about a certain "Futurewolf." That entire paragraph is obviously quite fictional (at least, I think Jack White wasn't abducted by the Futurewolf) and has been written colloquially enough for the suspicion that this may have been Jack playing a prank on wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.124.133 (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Jack White's probably got better things to do. The edit has been reverted. It lasted for nearly an hour and a half, which is far too long, so thanks for pointing it out. Nev1 (talk) 22:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Terrible, meaningless sentence
I'm not sure if the original editors are around and paying attention, but "Though he's really quite affected and pretentious, White is often called eccentric" is neither NPOV, nor does it even make sense. I don't know what this was supposed to mean, so I'm pointing it out, but leaving it hoping someone will fix it. Chuchunezumi (talk) 04:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- It was obvious vandalism, I've reverted it. --JD554 (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Move?
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The result of the proposal was do not move Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Jack White (musician) → Jack White —
- Most common "Jack White" and latter redirects to former. There is also Jack White (disambiguation). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:19, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Jack White will have to be histmerged with Jack White (disambiguation) before this can be completed. Jafeluv (talk) 12:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- I have histmerged Jack White (disambiguation) to Jack White. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Really? I would think that with so many Jack Whites, there would be no primary topic, and I don't believe the musician is that well-known. Perhaps do a full RM discussion on this? Ucucha 16:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- When this article was moved by BrownHairedGirl (talk · contribs) on 18 December 2009 the rationale was "Plenty of other highly notable people called Jack White". I agree with that statement but what I will say, however, is that the page view stats for the Jack White page are much lower than that of Jack White (musician) [6] [7]. This is despite the fact that the Jack White page was only just fixed to point to this article. That might indicate that the majority of people are searching for the musician, although the results may be skewed by links redirecting to this article and as a bi-product of recentism. It's therefore difficult for me to come to a conclusion, but since the the move does not appear to have had a negative affect on page views of the musician's article (whatever its title) I would tentatively suggest that the current set up works and doesn't need to change. As such, I oppose the proposed move. Nev1 (talk) 22:23, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Too many other folks with the same name to warrant making this the primary topic for the "Jack White" page. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Opposed I don't see a valid case being made here regarding the fact that "Jack White" is commonly considered to be "The Jack White". It's possible that he is, but barring evidence to that fact my opinion is that this shouldn't be done (yet).
— V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 03:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)- Incidentally, I've restored the hatnote leading to the disambig page. It was removed by User:Koavf with this edit on January 12 for no apparent reason.
— V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 03:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I've restored the hatnote leading to the disambig page. It was removed by User:Koavf with this edit on January 12 for no apparent reason.
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Equipment - Moog Little Phatty
Okay people I'm lazy so this is how it's going to go...
Jack White uses a Moog Little Phatty synthesizer on the track Icky Thump, you can double check this by watching any live footage, he happens to have it painted red FYI. Feel free to add this to the main page or anywhere else, I don't want to fool around with what goes where right now since I've put it up on the main page a few times and it has since been taken down with no reason. Though someone might have taken it down before since I had done the edit without logging in, but if they had removed it without actually knowing their sources then they should NOT have done so. -Thanks, Ben S. Spaghettaboutit (talk) 22:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Seven Nation Army
Wasn't Jack White also linked with a group called "Seven Nation Army"? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I have to confess I know very little about this person - what I know comes from a viewing of University Challenge! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:23, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Jack white is actually #17 on the list of rolling stones top 100 guitarists not #70 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.105.254 (talk) 21:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Noun
debut (plural debuts)
1. A performer's first-time performance to the public.
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Please change "One, The Peacocks, is all-female, and the other, Los Buzzardos, is all-male." to "One, The Peacocks, is all-female, and the other, The Buzzards, is all-male." because the band was never called "Los Buzzardos" as stated at the end of this: http://thirdmanrecords.com/news/view/tweeting-at-jack-white-shows Nuggsrocks (talk) 20:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Done: thanks for your contribution! — Deontalk 07:41, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hello. There's a mistake at the top of the article: Jack White is not the 70th guitarist of all times (by the Rolling Stones magazine), he is the 17th. You can check it in the following link to the magazine. Thanks. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-of-all-time-19691231/jack-white-19691231 88.13.109.32 (talk) 15:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Not done: That isn't the same review. It's a personal classification by David Fricke. benzband (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Band members
Peacocks and Buzzards backing bands redirect to the main Jack White page, but there is no mention of who any of the band members are. Can we add a section to list the band members? Or am I not looking closely enough?
Deceasedlavy (talk) 23:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I added the band members' names of the Peacocks and Buzzards to the "Solo Career" section. Pedialight (talk) 22:47, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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jack White is ranked 17 not 70 in Rolling Stone's top 100 guitarists. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-of-all-time-19691231/jack-white-19691231
Actually, he is 70th, that is someone's personal list ranking him 17, not 'Rolling Stone'. This should be changed back http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-20111123/jack-white-19691231
Thanks for the clarification and the proper Rolling Stone link! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.161.132 (talk) 23:06, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
24.70.161.132 (talk) 01:25, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the keen eye! :) Salvidrim! 03:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Done
Not done: Ah, indeed. I should've seen the same request denied a few sections up. I am not familiar with Rolling Stone's layout, thus didn't immediately notice that the link provided here was a user list; however I should've made sure it was the same source as the citation at the end of the in-article sentence. I changed it back to #70! Salvidrim! 15:10, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Primary topic
Is The White Stripes' musician the primary topic for "Jack White"? Despite the move proposal discussed above which concluded not to move Jack White (musician) → Jack White in January 2010, Gamaliel made the move on 1 February 2013, apparently without any discussion. I don't express an opinion whether this conclusion was correct in accordance with WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, nor am I proposing the page be moved back, but this should have been discussed first to establish a new consensus.
I mistakenly reverted the move whilst checking the move logs but have undone my error. —sroc 💬 12:28, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
"White" surname inadequately explained & unsourced
The current article doesn't seem to have an adequate explanation of why Jack Gillis is called "Jack White". The only mention whatsoever is a single sentence buried way down in "Personal life", and that was "sourced" with an article that said nothing about his name. (I moved the source to other statements it actually confirmed and {{fact}}-tagged the "took her name" sentence.) It's a significant and obvious question, so it should be briefly mentioned in the lede, mentioned in the "White Stripes" section (assuming it happened in this period), and perhaps then explained in "Personal life". I'd write it myself except I don't know the story; that's why I came here in the first place. Can some more-knowledgeable editor tackle this? Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Tons of celebrities use pseudonyms, nicknames, stage names and the like, so the fact that he uses a name other than his birth name wouldn't be so alarming to the typical reader that it needs to be explained in the lead. Considering his name change is connected with his first marriage, it is appropriately covered in the "Personal" section. Links to his marriage certificate (Glorious Noise citations) and divorce certificate indicate that he changed his name when he got married, and and kept it after he divorced. However, I will add more references to this fact--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 21:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- With an extensive copyedit, it's now mentioned (and correctly referenced) in "Early life"--the section that discusses his life up to the age of 21, before the White Stripes formed, and by which time he was already married and going by Jack White--even in his upholstery business (which is not mentioned, but I happen to know).--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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The Mind at Large
"In 2016 White never heard of the band The Mind at Large, but never stated that he didn't want to listen to them"
How exactly is this relevant to anything, and why is it in the controversy section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.97.249 (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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No new album details officially released.
With the release of the video titled "Servings and Portions from my Boarding House Reach", many press agencies are taking for granted that the upcoming solo album will be titled "Boarding House Reach". However a spokesperson for Jack White has explicitly stated that no name or release date has been announced, therefore until such time as more concrete evidence can be produced it should not be listed on the discography.
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Instruments and equipment
to add:
Ernie Ball Music Man's St. Vincent signature guitar
source: https://twitter.com/st_vincent/status/985594000500576256