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The significant Slavic genetic contribution in the today Greeks is undoubted, but the data about it is constantly being removed. Today, the Greek state does not recognize its Slavic minorities, claiming that they do not exist. However, Wikipedia is not censored, I hope. Jingiby (talk) 04:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does "the Greek state does not recognize its Slavic minorities" have to do with anything? There are numerous studies on the subject, yet you are interested only in this one. E.g. the study on the Peloponnese by Stamatoyannopoulos et al. 2017 found much lower values than this paper. Khirurg (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The study was added by another editor, not by me. It was deleted by you 3 times. This is the most recent study on the issue and the only archeogenetic one. Jingiby (talk) 05:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to have been deleted yet again, on the apparent grounds of “balance”, whatever that’s supposed to mean… Botushali (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jingiby: It's not the "only archeogenetic one". You haven't even read the article properly. Khirurg (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Khirurg, When contributing to Wikipedia, lists are typically sorted based on criteria that are relevant and objective. Sorting by population quantity is common because it provides a clear, measurable standard that is widely accepted. This approach helps maintain neutrality and consistency across Wikipedia articles. You are suggesting an exception to this standard to push a particular viewpoint or because it personally bothers you WP:JDL , it does not align with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and verifiability. Also i would like you to remind me what happened the last "edit war" since it seems this discussion it's personal for you, remembering what has happened to me 2 years ago and bringing unprofessional amateuristic arguements that have nothing to do with the article. Also Native or Not its something that has nothing to do with the population sorting keep your POV out of the discussion. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 23:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I find Khirurg’s edit summary here unproductive - Greeks are native to southern Albania, this seems to bother you a great deal, but that's just how it is. Remember what happened the last time you edit-warred. I don’t think it’s a standard practice on Wikipedia to list population stats according to where they’re supposedly native to. In fact, the USA, Germany, Australia, the UK and Canada are all listed before Albania. Are Greeks native to these countries as well? The whole list should be re-arranged based on population IMO.

Also, @RoyalHeritageAlb, the final part of Khirurg’s edit summary says this: Remember what happened the last time you edit-warred. This is coming from a user who keeps a list of “taunts” ([[1]]) which contains the following three examples:

1. ...something which you have been blocked for

2. Do I have to remind you of your very long block log

3. you have already been blocked countless times

Basically, Khirurg considers himself a victim of taunts when people remind him of previous blocks, something he has just now done towards you in the above edit summary. As such, Khirurg is indirectly admitting to deliberately taunting you. I’d recommend keeping a record of this just in case you’re unfortunate enough to be involved in a dispute with him in which the admins are involved. Botushali (talk) 02:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]