Talk:Golden State Warriors/Archive 1
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Rebounds
Found what looks like to be an error here:
- Offensive Rebounds - Larry Smith (2,709)
- Defensive Rebounds - Larry Smith (3,731)
- Total Rebounds - Nate Thurmond (12,771)
This can't be right. If Thurmond has 12,771 total rebounds, then shouldn't he also hold the record for offensive or defensive or (most likely) both?
Am I missing something?
Thanks
- Offensive and defensive rebounds weren't recorded in the NBA until the 1973-74 season. Thurmond only played one season (1973-74) with the Warriors while these statistics were tabulated. But you're right in that one can infer that Thurmond would have been the franchise leader in at least one of the two categories, had they been recorded. Myasuda 14:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Trades
Trading Richmond for Owens isn't what finally killed the Warriors. It was the sign-and-trade of Chris Webber for Tom Gugliotta that did them in. C'mon!
"The Warriors are the only major professional sports league franchise to exclude the legal name of their city or state from the team's name." Is this true? What about the New England Patriots?
I'm not sure about euro soccer teams, who may also use ambiguous place names, but New England is an actual place. Until this year, I always assumed that the "Golden State" was Arizona or New Mexico, with the reference being to the desert. I wouldn't even think of CA as the gold state, I would think of Alaska. (Personally, I would call CA the lettuce state) I think the bigger violater of not declaring your hometown is the NFLs Jets/Giants who play in a different state than they're name suggestsTallrichard2 05:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
"The Golden State" is the official nickname of California. I don't think "New England" is either the official name or official nickname of any place. Thus, one could say that the Warriors are the only team in North American professional sports known by two "official" nicknames. 207.69.139.162 16:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
California's called the Golden State because of the Gold Rush. New England's the collection of states in the northeast U.S. where the first English pilgrims arrived. Check the respective Wikipedia entries. As for the Golden State roster, why is #22 Matt Barnes not on it? 69.233.51.166 00:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Mullin not General Manager
He may act like it, but Rod Higgins actually is, so I'm changing it.
Not To Be Forgotten?
Some players listed are still on the team, so...how could they be forgotten if they are actively playing on the Warriors? I am removing the current Warriors from the NTBF list.
Ike Diogu? Troy Murphy? Bobby Sura? I think we should clean up this list to include who really matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.70.152 (talk) 19:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Who are they, if they don't start they arn't really that big of a deal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.190.172.3 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Not really busts
For their draft positions, Vonteego Cummings and especially Chris Porter were not really busts. Porter played pretty decently when he was with the team, and he was the 4th to last guy drafted! I'm removing those two from the list, replacing them instead with Steve Logan.
"Nothing in return"
It's sort of cheating to list both Jamison and Carter on the "nothing in return" list. Contrary to what the general public seems to believe, the Jamison-Carter trade was planned before the draft, so the Warriors never could have had Carter anyway. Even if they could have kept him, the team did get Jamison, which wasn't a complete waste. I am removing Vince from the list.
Mark Price
Price was signed when Dave Twardzik was still GM. I'm removing him from the St. Jean section.
Overall cleanup
The article was suffering from a severe case of stilted language caused by multiple authorship, so I went through and cleaned it up a little. I hope the improvement is noticeable.
outlandish foyle comments
i had to tighten that up. adonal is #57 all-time. not one of the best, except by a stretch. i inserted "excellent" and emphasized his off-court work, which is what he is most known for.24.92.254.51 03:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Dajuan Wagner
Actually, he played in 1 game during the regular season (2006) and scored 4 points.
What the?!?!?!?!?!?
I got on here to settle a bet about 5 minutes after the Dallas-GS game was over and I already saw the score posted. Are there seriously people sitting around going "Dallas won by 6, I should make sure this is on Wikipedia" News flash, get a life.
Jsaint1023 04:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
If you don't want to contribute, just sit there and watch. Don't criticize people just because they are working on wikipedia. If you think people have no life up here, why do you join in the first place. Chris 05:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I joined to contribute to conversations and give my opinion. I also like pissing people off who I have never met. I like having an impact. 1 love.
I liked GSW winning over Dallas, but isn't putting " in what was arguably THE BIGGEST SERIES UPSET IN NBA PLAYOFF HISTORY" a bit exaggerated?Grifter tm 02:48, 12 June 2007
Era names
I'm sorry but those era names were incredibly lame so I got rid of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.253.188.167 (talk) 03:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC).
The original owner of the Philadelphia Warriors was Peter Tyrrell not Pat Tyrrell.
-> Astonished that the name Floyd does not appear anywhere on the page ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.117.26.162 (talk) 07:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
1980s-94 section
This section is an absolute mess. I started to try to clean it up, but I'm not even sure what it's trying to say. It references the trade of Mitch Richmond, made prior to the 1991-92 season, then includes a weird general statement about the general manager, and then says "the following year," referring to 1993-94, which is actually THREE seasons after the most recent season mentioned (so it's clear that someone took something out without making what remained make sense together). It also includes phrases that aren't really basketball phrases, like "string of wins" in reference to an entire period (does it mean "winning seasons"? Or perhaps the Warriors went on a 246-game winning *streak* that no one noticed?).
Mascot
Need description of mascot and changes over the years thereof, which is entirely lacking from the article. Badagnani 21:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Nathan Bowens ?
There is a player named Nathan Bowens in the "Not to be forgotten" section, but I have to admit that I've never heard of him. Are there any non-Wikipedia sources out there stating that he was a basketball player for the Warriors? If not, he should probably be removed. Bash Kash (talk) 05:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have removed him per lack of reliable sources. Bash Kash (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
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Updating rosters
I see that the rosters were updated about a month ago and there have been slight adjustments since then. Webber is no longer the starter with his injury, Biedrins is. Patrick O'Bryant has recently been put to the D League, and Matt Barnes should be under the Small Foward category. Would it be a good idea for me to put these slight changes? --Aml 88fl (talk) 05:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be fine. However, if Barnes was moved to SF, where would Pietrus go? Bash Kash (talk) 05:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
San Jose
The HP Pavilion article, as well as this source and this one all state that the Warriors only played in San Jose for one season (1996-1997), yet this article states that they played in SJ for 2 seasons and lists different years (97-98, 98-99). Does anyone have any sources that they played at SJ for 2 seasons? Sjsharktank (talk) 09:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think that info about the two seasons was false, and I actually corrected it without seeing your comment. Those two sources that you cited are good, also, NBA.com says "While the Oakland Coliseum underwent a complete renovation, the 1996-97 Golden State Warriors headed south to San Jose, struggling to a 30-52 finish in their temporary home." Bash Kash (talk) 21:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
2007—08
Is it really necessary to have an entire section about a season, that quite honestly, twenty years from now will be completely irrelevant? I propose to move the information to 2007–08 Golden State Warriors season, if there are no objections. Bash Kash (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Records
Needs an NBA Records section, including
- Points Scored in a Playoff Game Quarter - Sleepy Floyd (29) (NBA Record)
- Points Scored in a Playoff Game Half - Sleepy Floyd (39) (NBA Record)
- Points Scored in a Game - Wilt Chamberlain (100) (NBA Record)
and probably more that I am not aware of that can be found at NBA records —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.126.84.152 (talk) 02:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Current Roster
Needs columns for "Age" and "Years with Club".
Golden State "fact"
From the 1971-1977 history section: "After changing their name from the San Francisco Warriors, the Warriors became one of only two teams in the Big Four sports that do not include the name of their state or their city in their name (although "Golden State" is a well-known California nickname), the other being the New England Patriots of the National Football League." I don't think this is right--what about the three teams that include "Tampa Bay" in their names? It's an area, not a municipality. Or the Carolina Hurricanes and Carolina Panthers? Does anyone have a citations that can back this up? Otherwise, I will delete it. CampTenDMS (talk) 14:11, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- You're right. Many teams nowadays have regional names. Nothing unique about the Warriors. oknazevad (talk) 23:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Move to San Francisco
Aren't they planning to move (back) to San Francisco before the end of the decade, or did that get shut down? 67.137.68.210 (talk) 10:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- That is, current section 1.11 Golden State Warriors#Move from Oakland back to San Francisco.
- "... at an already-existing Muni T-Third stop." Search 'Muni T-Third' evidently hits nothing. If this is a trolley bus, then we should say "Muni T-Third trolley bus stop"; or light rail if that's the case; or omnibus (horsebus), nonorail, etc.
- The last two sentences of the same paragraph are unusually clunky, concerning the team name after 2018. --P64 (talk) 23:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Confusing sentences
The article currently reads,
- Since 1966, the team has played home games in the building currently known as the Oracle Arena, and exclusively since 1972 with the exception of a one-year hiatus during which they played in San Jose, California while the Oracle Arena was being remodeled.
The only way this makes sense to me is if, from 1966-1972, the Warriors had two home courts, akin to the way the Green Bay Packers used to split home games between Lambeau and some stadium--I forget what it was--in Milwaukee. If this is not the case, could someone who knows the facts please change it to a more comprehensible wording? Here's a suggestion (if this meets the facts):
- Since 1966, the team has played home games in the building currently known as the Oracle Arena, with the exception of a one-season hiatus in 1972; during that time, due to remodeling of the Oracle Arena, they played their games in San Jose, California.
Is that correct? HuskyHuskie (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Another confusing sentence under the "Radio" section,
- "He usually announces by himself, without a color commentator, except for nationally televised games, when Barnett (since he is not on TV) does color commentary alongside him."
It seems to say the opposite of what I think is meant by it. - Sidelight12 Talk 08:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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Radio coverage
KNBR carries Warriors games on 1050 as KTCT. Giants games are on 680. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.84.154 (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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"The Warriors are the current NBA runners-up, being defeated by the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals." This statement is incorrect as testified by the official NBA website nba.com; in fact, it should read "The Warriors are the current NBA champions, having defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals. Macar-va-Mordo (talk) 09:56, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Already done Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Evidently it's not relevant that they are the current NBA Champs
We have an editor revert warring to remove from the lede that the Warriors are the current NBA Champions. He thinks this is irrelevant. I think that is hilarious. What do others think? Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- This sentence - The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals. - has no place in this article. No other team had such idiotic sentences when they became NBA champions. Sabbatino (talk) 13:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- In the lede of New England Patriots: "They defeated the Seattle Seahawks 28–24 in Super Bowl XLIX to win their fourth Vince Lombardi Trophy in 14 seasons."
- I find your opinion on this so absurdly wrong as to be hilarious. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's already mentioned that they're the champions and that's why that sentence doesn't belong in that paragraph. You don't write in style such as created in 1920... 2015 champions... 1962 relocated... See my point know? And here's the sentence which is appropriate - Along with their inaugural championship win in the 1946–47 season and the 2015 championship, the Warriors have won two others in the team's history, including another in Philadelphia after the 1955–56 season, and one as Golden State after the 1974–75 season, leaving them fifth overall in the NBA in number of championships. This sentence is at the end of the paragraph and not in the middle like that other sentence. Now LOOK at your example and the at that sentence (The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals.). Is your example's statement in the middle of the paragraph? NO! It's in the end of the paragraph where it belongs. Sabbatino (talk) 13:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it does seem out of place at that exact location. If you'd like to move it elsewhere in the lede, I would support that. Before you said it has 'no place in the article' and called it 'idiotic' and 'vandalism' Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- So you agree that sentence should be removed, because it's already mentioned that they're the 2015 NBA champions in the appropriate part of the paragraph? Sabbatino (talk) 14:02, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- No, I do not think that is 'idiotic' or 'vandalism' or that it has 'no place in the article' nor do I think it should be removed, because when it is mentioned it is only mentioned in passing in relation to something else. It should be stated clearly, as the current version does. If you'd like to move it, feel free. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:05, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- So you agree that sentence should be removed, because it's already mentioned that they're the 2015 NBA champions in the appropriate part of the paragraph? Sabbatino (talk) 14:02, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it does seem out of place at that exact location. If you'd like to move it elsewhere in the lede, I would support that. Before you said it has 'no place in the article' and called it 'idiotic' and 'vandalism' Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's already mentioned that they're the champions and that's why that sentence doesn't belong in that paragraph. You don't write in style such as created in 1920... 2015 champions... 1962 relocated... See my point know? And here's the sentence which is appropriate - Along with their inaugural championship win in the 1946–47 season and the 2015 championship, the Warriors have won two others in the team's history, including another in Philadelphia after the 1955–56 season, and one as Golden State after the 1974–75 season, leaving them fifth overall in the NBA in number of championships. This sentence is at the end of the paragraph and not in the middle like that other sentence. Now LOOK at your example and the at that sentence (The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals.). Is your example's statement in the middle of the paragraph? NO! It's in the end of the paragraph where it belongs. Sabbatino (talk) 13:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
I changed the order around a bit so it works chronologically. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like we need admins to interfere here, because that sentence is still irrelevant. Look at other NBA teams articles and find such sentence in the summary paragraph. The same thing is already mentioned in the 2011–present ("Splash Brothers" era) paragraph - The Warriors advanced to their first NBA Finals since 1975, where they defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games to win the NBA Championship and end their 40-year championship drought. Andre Iguodala was named Finals MVP. Maybe you don't know what a summary is so look up and tell me HOW that sentence (The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals.) belongs in the summary paragraph... Sabbatino (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- This is appropriate for the lede and the article itself. I disagree we need admin intervention, we simply need to wait for other editors to wake up. Consensus should be very clear on this one. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well I think admin's help is needed here. So I'm adding it. Sabbatino (talk) 15:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- This is appropriate for the lede and the article itself. I disagree we need admin intervention, we simply need to wait for other editors to wake up. Consensus should be very clear on this one. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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- It's difficult to surmise exactly why you're seeking the help of an administrator, but this looks like a content dispute where you need a third opinion to form a rough consensus. Either that or you need to go through all the steps of WP:DR. For both of those things you do not need an administrator or could simply use the normal help request function. Mkdwtalk 16:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- He's just being extremely impatient. I'm sure other editors will come along organically and weigh in. Thanks. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Please clarify this situation. I think that sentence - The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals. - has no place in this article's summary paragraph and it's inappropriate to place it there when there's the same thing written in the 2011–present ("Splash Brothers" era) paragraph. Summary is supposed to be short, clear and don't get into specific details, yes? Waiting for your opinion. Sabbatino (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- As I explained above, I think that is not only incorrect but absurd. That they are the current NBA Champion is extremely relevant and deserving of being in the lede. See: New England Patriots, the current NFL champion. That's just WP:OSE but my point isn't simply that it's there, it's that it's perfectly logical and appropriate for it to be there. Not including it would be doing a disservice to any reader who doesn't know they are the current champions. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:23, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- That New England Patriots example is WRONG, because there everything seems okay and totally different from Golden State Warriors. But no worries, I'll ask for third opinion and I'm sure that my opinion will be the right one. Sabbatino (talk) 17:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Saying it's WRONG and everything is different, doesn't make it so. You haven't explained how it's different or why it's wrong. This lede has all this arcane detail about where they played and the history of their arena -- but you think that they are the current NBA Champions is not relevant. Assuming good faith is very difficult here. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. You want explanations? here they are: 1. That sentence is biased to some degree and grammatically incorrect. 2. New England Patriots example - ...They defeated the Seattle Seahawks 28–24 in Super Bowl XLIX to win their fourth Vince Lombardi Trophy in 14 seasons. Golden State Warriors example - The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals. I MIGHT agree with this statement in Warriors' article, but then it follows - Along with their inaugural championship win in the 1946–47 season and the 2015 championship, the Warriors have won two others in the team's history, including another in Philadelphia after the 1955–56 season, and one as Golden State after the 1974–75 season, leaving them fifth overall in the NBA in number of championships. Do you still think your example is good? There's no mention about other Warriors Final series. 3. You're confusing NFL Final with NBA Finals as they both are completely DIFFERENT. NBA Finals have best-of-seven series format, while NFL has single-game Final. That's two completely different systems. Do you need more explanations? Sabbatino (talk) 17:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Your argument keeps changing. First it was vandalism, then it was irrelevant, then it was the location -- and now you don't like the way it's worded. It seems pretty clear you just want it gone. But as for your new argument: NBA Finals is equivalent to the Super Bowl. If you don't like the wording, that's a reason to change it, not remove it. That they are the reigning champs needs to be there. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- My argument doesn't change. I just changed the words so you would understand, but since WP:3O was given, I edited that part of the paragraph according to WP:RELTIME. There's no point in arguing since an independent editor gave his opinion and clarified how it should look like. Sabbatino (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Your argument keeps changing. First it was vandalism, then it was irrelevant, then it was the location -- and now you don't like the way it's worded. It seems pretty clear you just want it gone. But as for your new argument: NBA Finals is equivalent to the Super Bowl. If you don't like the wording, that's a reason to change it, not remove it. That they are the reigning champs needs to be there. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. You want explanations? here they are: 1. That sentence is biased to some degree and grammatically incorrect. 2. New England Patriots example - ...They defeated the Seattle Seahawks 28–24 in Super Bowl XLIX to win their fourth Vince Lombardi Trophy in 14 seasons. Golden State Warriors example - The Warriors are the current NBA champions, defeating the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the 2015 Finals. I MIGHT agree with this statement in Warriors' article, but then it follows - Along with their inaugural championship win in the 1946–47 season and the 2015 championship, the Warriors have won two others in the team's history, including another in Philadelphia after the 1955–56 season, and one as Golden State after the 1974–75 season, leaving them fifth overall in the NBA in number of championships. Do you still think your example is good? There's no mention about other Warriors Final series. 3. You're confusing NFL Final with NBA Finals as they both are completely DIFFERENT. NBA Finals have best-of-seven series format, while NFL has single-game Final. That's two completely different systems. Do you need more explanations? Sabbatino (talk) 17:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Saying it's WRONG and everything is different, doesn't make it so. You haven't explained how it's different or why it's wrong. This lede has all this arcane detail about where they played and the history of their arena -- but you think that they are the current NBA Champions is not relevant. Assuming good faith is very difficult here. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- That New England Patriots example is WRONG, because there everything seems okay and totally different from Golden State Warriors. But no worries, I'll ask for third opinion and I'm sure that my opinion will be the right one. Sabbatino (talk) 17:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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Opinion: Per WP:RELTIME, currently should be avoided. That fact that this team won the NBA championship for the first time in 40 years in 2015, or something along those lines, would be good information to include in the lead (as it is very unlikely to change). Stating it in a way that it won't need to be updated after this year, is better.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 20:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC) |
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- Thanks. Sounds fine to me, I can reword it later, or the other editor can if he likes. Though I suspect he'll take this to ArbCom first. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 21:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- I already edited that part so there wouldn't be any bad blood for no reason. Sabbatino (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- You couldn't remove it so you try to hide it and say as little as possible. No. I will edit the tense to not be realtime later. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- I see you have difficulty with comprehension. Read again what the person above wrote. My version was perfectly fine as it was, but you still decided to bring the same thing again... It's not relevant in how many games they won. Winning is winning! Deleted the in six games part, because that's what makes it irrelevant. Sabbatino (talk) 04:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Once again your argument has changed. You never said anything about the games before. Just let it go man. Two other editors agreed with this being in there, one of whom edited the article. Neither of us love his version but letting it stand is clearly what we should do. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- I see you have difficulty with comprehension. Read again what the person above wrote. My version was perfectly fine as it was, but you still decided to bring the same thing again... It's not relevant in how many games they won. Winning is winning! Deleted the in six games part, because that's what makes it irrelevant. Sabbatino (talk) 04:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- You couldn't remove it so you try to hide it and say as little as possible. No. I will edit the tense to not be realtime later. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- I already edited that part so there wouldn't be any bad blood for no reason. Sabbatino (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Sounds fine to me, I can reword it later, or the other editor can if he likes. Though I suspect he'll take this to ArbCom first. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 21:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
3O Update/Suggestion: My apologies for not clarifying a bit more earlier, I had less time than I'd have liked. I've re-read the old discussion, and read the new. The lead (MOS:INTRO) summarizes the article. I think going into further detail that they won their most recent championship in 6 games is better left to the body. [1] None of the other championships in lead state how many games were played. None of the other teams defeated by Golden State to win their championships are mentioned in the lead for that matter, but I'm not going to go that far. I think "Forty years later they defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 2015 Finals", should enjoy broad support. We have to remember not to skew the encyclopedia toward recent events, and we're not in the business of reporting news. In 10 years or more will we want a stand-alone sentence about the 2015 championship in the lead? Probably not, we'll most likely prefer to list it in the same fashion as the previous three already are within the lead.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 06:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. The current version was written by another editor who is familiar with this article, who effectively is our 3rd opinion, in my view. You really should have never even been called in here, had this other editor not been so impatient. I'm sure we'll get more views and can form consensus organically. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 07:24, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Inaugural championship
Both 1947 and 1950 were inaugural seasons, finals, and championships in different senses, as the NBA (est. 1950) considers the history of the BAA (est. 1947) to be its own. I rewrote the historical second-half of the lead paragraph more informatively re the Phi Warriors --less informatively re the BAA, NBL, and NBA-- so it closes thus, "a founding member of the Basketball Association of America (BAA), and it won the inaugural 1947 BAA Finals that is now considered the first NBA Championship."
That needs a reference and/or explanatory note, for example as combined:
- < ref>This follows NBA recognition of BAA history as part of its own. "NBA Season Recaps". NBA History (nba.com/history). July 1, 2014. Retrieved 2015-06-24.
After three seasons the BAA merged with the National Basketball League (NBL) to create the NBA prior to the 1949–50 season.</ref>
Probably I would also relegate the official state nickname from the second paragraph to some note/reference; in fact I only made it shorter, in parentheses. San Jose, California should simply be left to the body of the article; done. (changes to the geographic second lead paragraph, third of three one-paragraph revisions)
--P64 (talk) 00:34, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think all of that could be trimmed down. When people read this lede I doubt they are wanting tons of information about 50 and 60 year old history. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 06:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- I did add Note 2, essentially as above, and relegate the official state nickname to Note 3. Those two notes are also called from section 1.2 1946–1962: Philadelphia Warriors and section 1.4 1971–1978. After improvement just before and after each of those headings, I cut the second and third lead paragraphs radically.
- Please see all four edit summaries. --P64 (talk) 17:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Lede is looking good, nice work. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
References
Scoring Champion
Stephen Curry is th 15-16 NBA Scoring Champion with 30.1 PPG Tuk337 (talk) 04:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Golden State Surges to the Playoffs
After a loss to the Washington Wizards finished off by three late free throws from former Warrior point guard Gilbert Arenas with 0.1 seconds left on the clock, the playoff chances for the Golden State Warriors seemed hopeless. However, after a comeback win capped off by a Monta Ellis mid range buzzer beater against Vince Carter and the New Jersey Nets, the Warriors had their first win with the new additions of Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, and Josh Powell. They would ride this momentum and play a small-ball offense for the remaining ten games of the season. This meant that Baron Davis and Monta Ellis would start in the back court while Jason Richardson and Stephen Jackson would play the two forward positions, and 6' 7" Al Harrington would play center against dominant presences like Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki. The Warriors would go on to win nine of the remaining ten games and finish two games ahead of the Los Angeles Clippers for the eighth and final seed in the Western Conference Playoffs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmosulli (talk • contribs) 19:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
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In the first paragraph of 2015–2016: Broken Records, there is an occurence of "Warrriors" as opposed to "Warriors". 84.105.95.8 (talk) 21:43, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- Fixed. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:07, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Please remove "Fantastic Four"
I'm pretty active amongst fans and I have not yet seen the formulation "Fantastic Four" and it certainly is not in widespread use (like "Splash Brothers" has been).
So, can we remove that please? There is not even a reference given to a media use of the phrase.
And it's contrary to the team ethos, which is still "Strength in Numbers".
And it ignores Andre Iguodala (NBA Finals MVP) and Shaun Livingston, both of whom the Warriors made a point of keeping. 162.205.217.211 (talk) 03:12, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Edit request
Removal of most recent unsourced and off-topic additions to intro by blocked Skylermiles0908 (talk · contribs). Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- The edits have been reverted. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
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I'm a huge Golden State Warriors fan, and want to contribute to my favorite team's wikipage Seagod900 (talk) 01:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 01:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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167.1.173.30 (talk) 17:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sir Joseph (talk) 18:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Suggested Correction
The article says that Wilt Chamberlain had the nickname "Wilt the Stilt". That may be true, but Wilt hated that name. His friends and fans called him "The Big Dipper". This can be found numerous times in the book "Wilt, 1962" by Gary Pomerantz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.203.80.125 (talk) 13:19, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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In the roster, Stephen Curry's name has been changed to "Warriors Blew a 3 - 1 Lead". Please fix this. I have fixed it in the template but it did not make it through to the page. Gareginordyan (talk) 16:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Already done The template takes a while to update. It updated. JTP (talk • contribs) 20:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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Elgrouch (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — IVORK Discuss 23:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Rosalyn Gold-Onwude No Longer Reporting For The Warriors
Ros is now affiliated with NBATV and NBA on TNT. This was announced on September 1, 2017.
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You have forgotten the name of Gus Metzig on the roster if you correct this it will be appreciated 2601:447:C180:1F0:D9:225A:A2B8:AD8E (talk) 01:29, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Corky Buzz by the Hornet's Nest 01:41, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
If I could, I would edit to include predictive Mark Jackson quote
At the end of the first splash brothers' section, where the name splash brothers are mentioned:
In April (2013) Coach Jackson boasted having "the greatest shooting backcourt that's ever played this game."
best source I can find for now is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOFX7N2EZA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.110.126 (talk) 21:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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Je suis Big Boi (talk) 01:13, 10 June 2018 (UTC) The Golden State Warriors have a very distinct way of talking. They say things such as: "GGEZ" or "That was a 'hard' game."
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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In the third paragraph of the introduction, please change, "the team won their first champion in forty years" to "the team won their first championship in forty years" PranavJ918 (talk) 04:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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Free agents are not on the roster; their contracts have expired. They should be removed. The official list is actually here: https://www.nba.com/2019-western-conference-player-movement I admit sticking to that list is a bit pedantic (Klay and Looney should probably be included in the roster) but keeping other FAs in is wrong both pedantically and practically.
2601:641:500:11A4:AE:C83A:5A43:5484 (talk) 03:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Already done There are no free agents on the rooster now (Looney and Klay are now re-signed). --Trialpears (talk) 09:50, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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Under retired numbers, number 35 isn't shown. The Warriors retired Kevin Durant's number after he left to play with the Nets. Here is an article from ESPN that confirms this. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27098829/warriors-thank-durant-say-retire-no-35 67.80.87.26 (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Not done: The article says that it will be retired, which is different than "retired" (past tense).—Bagumba (talk) 11:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Incorrect Statement Jersey
The statement jersey in the Golden State Warriors info tab in the right appears to have the wrong statement jersey. The statement uniform in the info tab is definitely the wrong one because that exact jersey is the 2019-20 city jersey and that NBA new statement jerseys now come with the Jordan logo in it.[1]
References
- ^ "Warriors unveil 6 new jersey designs for 2019-20 season". NBA.com. Official Release. Retrieved 17 September 2019.
All-time leading scorer
Wilt Chamberlain is listed as the career leader with 17,783 points, but Curry broke that record on April 12, 2021, according to this article:
https://www.nba.com/news/stephen-curry-passes-wilt-chamberlain-for-warriors-all-time-scoring-record
I thought there might be a distinction I missed - like regular season vs. regular season + postseason - but the article I linked to uses the same 17,783-point total for Chamberlain that the Wikipedia article uses. Should this be updated?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8600:7540:546f:f275:d105:2a40 (talk) 06:48, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
"San Francisco Basketball Team" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect San Francisco Basketball Team. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 27#San Francisco Basketball Team until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
The warriors jerseys are mislabeled.
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There depictions of the various Warriors jerseys near the top of the page. Presently the Classic jersey is labeled "City" and the City jersey is labeled "Classic ". Brucelighttone (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Not done: It appears they are correctly labeled. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 22:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Add Chamath Palihapitiya to owners list.
Chamath Palihapitiya is a minority owner. He is notable enough to have his own page. He should be listed in the owners list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:5160:7400:EC1A:7625:B30C:5BFE (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Franchise History: Wilderness Years
Under this section, the "We Believe" Warriors are claimed to be underdogs to the Mavericks in name only, but this is just not true. The Warriors were 14 to 1 underdogs to win the series before it's start according to Vegas sportsbooks (https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/gaming/article/Defying-the-odds-Wagering-on-Warriors-Win-2596060.php). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4D0:9010:D9C:308E:A6AA:1975 (talk) 08:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Golden State In Playoffs Season 2021-2022
Golden State has made it to the playoffs in the second place going against the bears currently winning and might win the championship Edit: Currently Warriors Are Winning 3-1 ShaneDGSWDM (talk) 00:12, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- That level of detail seems more suitable at 2021–22 Golden State Warriors season.—Bagumba (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)