Talk:Gingerbread house
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Why the move page?
No reson to move since there is no other article to confuse it with. If you think there is an architectural style like this make a note in the beginning of the article. Hafspajen (talk) 22:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC) WP:Natural disambiguation Hafspajen (talk) 00:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Savvyjack23 - what exacly do you think you are doing? Scuse me, but what you did now should have been discussed, first of all. Second, you never dicussed your move back. Third. You didn't discussed anything. Hafspajen (talk) 00:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
See: Gingerbread house. This current article is about a food. I see no reason for a lengthy discussion especially when there were no previous discussion held on this page. The move is appropriate. Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- OH; I do. First, you saw it was moved back. You should have stopped imediately. Second, you simply hijacked the title of the article, without any discussions at all, Gingerbread house - and moved it - twice now - to make an other article of it. To start with, this - the Gingerbread house in THIS article - !- is a far more common concept than the architecture style. Second, when I wanted to discuss the redirect- you didn't discussed anything. Hafspajen (talk) 00:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- You should have used this instead. Hafspajen (talk) 00:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- There was no previous discussion held on this page, because you never stated any. Hafspajen (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- AND, don't start those things, because I can feel them. It won't work. Hafspajen (talk) 00:31, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- OH; I do. First, you saw it was moved back. You should have stopped imediately. Second, you simply hijacked the title of the article, without any discussions at all, Gingerbread house - and moved it - twice now - to make an other article of it. To start with, this - the Gingerbread house in THIS article - !- is a far more common concept than the architecture style. Second, when I wanted to discuss the redirect- you didn't discussed anything. Hafspajen (talk) 00:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay, please refrain from speaking to me in such manner (shouting especially). I understand you are passionate but there is a thin line. I was in the midst of article creation when you reverted actually, which is why I needed to revert it back. The gingerbread house (architecture) will work. Thank you for all your contributions to the Wikipedia community. I will also continue to improve in areas I see fit. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Just hatnote or DAB page also?
I have moved this page back over the redirect since houses made of gingerbread are the primary topic. The new article explicitly refers only to a regional style of architecture - in Haiti - and not more broadly to "gingerbread" as Victorian carved ornament. That makes it evident that it is not the primary topic. That new article is now at Gingerbread house (architecture) and I have adjusted the hatnote accordingly. However, since "gingerbread" is widely used in that secondary meaning, there may be other places where "gingerbread house" is used in reliable sources for a highly carved Victorian Gothic house. Accordingly, it occurs to me that we may want to add a disambiguation page and have hatnotes on both articles. Pinging Savvyjack23 and Hafspajen in particular on this. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay thanks for the feedback. I am currently creating a disambiguation to include both articles. Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Turkey is the primary article. Turkey (bird) - is the bird. I really can't agree about remaming this article. Creating a disambiguation page culd work, and about architecture- well there are at least three styles that can be called like this, Victorian architecture is one, highly decorative and often superfluous woodwork applied to a Victorian style house. Than it is Gothic revival architecture with the Carpenter Gothic. The Carpenter Gothic style and also within that the Nordic style, probably originating from so called Snickarglädje.
Carpenter Gothic, sometimes also Carpenter's Gothic, is the term used for both ecclesiastical and domestic architecture of the 19th century wherein, through the medium of wood, elements of the Gothic Revival style were employed. Gothic Revival building occurred throughout Britain, the British Empire, and the United States. In England stone and brick were the chief materials employed, but in North America, given the abundance of timber and the cost factor, many churches and houses were built or decorated with wood in the Gothic Revival style. Some have referred to this variant of the Gothic Revival style as “Carpenter Gothic.” This is common language in the United States, but it equally applies to many buildings, both ecclesiastical and domestic, in Canada as well as in New Zealand and Australia. In essence, carpenters used wood rather than stone.
The Swiss chalet style to is also a kind tangent. And the.... The Gingerbread Style, unique to St. Louis too. And others ...Queen Anne architecture and Dutch Colonial houses. Hafspajen (talk) 00:47, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Also creating a draft is a good idea when creating articles. Hafspajen (talk) 00:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I have performed such drafts in the past, but still noted. I am debating whether a disambiguation is needed at this time. Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. What I am trying to explain that there are also several arhitectural styles that correspond with this Gingerbread house (architectural style)... and it is going to be a bit of work sorting them out all. Hafspajen (talk) 01:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I have performed such drafts in the past, but still noted. I am debating whether a disambiguation is needed at this time. Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
I mean that it exists a wooden architectural ornamental style, about late-19th and early 20th centuries, particularly in the Stick Style. Gingerbreading, with scalloped or zig-zag-edged clapboards that a kind of Carpenter Gothic an application of wodden details, that actually originated in the Nordic countries. And then the Victorian Gothic Revival architecture renowned for architectural detailing ...also specifically called gingerbreading. And this is only a very superficial presentation... there is much more to this. Hafspajen (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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