Talk:Funeral for Yesterday/GA1

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Nominator: Chchcheckit (talk · contribs) 12:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Cambalachero (talk · contribs) 19:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you so much for doing this working on this has taken way too long ea dgcfdtbhvbr i very much appreciate this!!! enjoy reviewing Chchcheckit (talk) 20:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

also; if you need to check the text sources i.e. metal edge (paccioco 2007) and brave words bloody knuckles (begai 2007a and 2007b) i will type out stuff Chchcheckit (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

• File:Kittie Funeral For Yesterday.jpg Y Non-free image with rational, but try to add an {{information}} template, as that's a usual standard for files.
• File:Aerial view of Red Bank.jpg Y
• File:Morgan Lander of Kittie.jpg Y

Infobox and lead

• Two chronology sections in the infobox?

rationale added and extra chronology removed Chchcheckit (talk) 23:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background

• "Artemis did not support the band financially during their tours in support of the album..." You said "support" twice, try to reword that.
• the disagreement about the breakup mentioned in the note may be worth to include in visible text rather than a footnote
• "...which allowed the band to "test drive" their new songs..." try to avoid using idioms such as "test drive"

Recording and production

• "... the longest time Kittie has spent recording any of their albums" Any of the albums up to that date, or ever? The reference seems to be from the year of the album's release.

Composition and lyrics

• Seems fine

,Promotion

• "...an "unofficial" music video for the song was released three days later". How can a video released by the band be unofficial?

Touring

• "Kittie intended on touring the United Kingdom supporting Cradle of Filth in April 2007, but pulled out as their record label would not give them any touring support" Their record label? Wasn't that X of Infamy, an indie label belonging to them? Isn't the point of having such a label to avoid exactly this kind of situations?

Critical reception

• Seems fine

I think that's all for now. Cambalachero (talk) 03:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll work on this later, here's a few comments:

• The quote about it being the longest recording time of any Kittie album still holds up; their most recent album, Fire, was recorded in five weeks. Also, citation is based off of two things in Paccioco 2007, first from an early bio segment: "[Funeral for Yesterday] was recorded in New Jersey over six weeks", and then from a later quote from Morgan who states: "This was the longest we've taken to record. The first album [Spit] was nine days and the second [Oracle], two weeks. We've never taken this much time before." Until the End, In the Black and I've Failed You were all recorded in three weeks.
• The "unofficial" point is as stated by the source. Idk.
• Yeahhhh I knew that "record label would not give tour support" thing would come up; it's probably down to the band not being transparent about the nature of their record label. In this 2009 interview, Morgan does state that Funeral for Yesterday "was released through a joint effort with another smaller label which was a facilitator to have our own label." Also, in this 2007 article about Sebastian Bach signing to MRV, it states that "MRV's model is designed specifically for artist owned, management owned and independent labels, creating a partnership that provides for all label functions." I didn't include either of these references in the current version of the article due to it being WP:SYNTH. Morgan also complains here about being "in a position where we are on a label that doesn’t want to pay for something like [package tours i.e. Ozzfest and Family Values] because they can’t afford to pay for it." sighhhhh it is what it is. I don't know how to illustrate this point without it being WP:SYNTH but if you know do tell
• PLEASE COMMENT on the early recording and production section: IS IT NEUTRAL WHEN DISCUSSING THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN KITTIE + JACK PONTI? I had a problem of it being too "attacky" in early versions.

Chchcheckit (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]