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There are some glaring failures of objectivity in this controversial article. (Content must be written from a neutral point of view.)

For example, Hitler's policy is described as "shrewd and pragmatic": "A hundred per cent Franco's victory was not desirable from a German Point of view; rather were we interested in a continuance of the war and in the keeping up of the tension in the Mediterranean."[89]

Yet Stalin's Politburo - espousing virtually the same sentiment - is a "shocking" "Machiavellian calculation": "it would be more advantageous to the Soviet Union if neither of the warring camps gained proponderant [sic] strength, and if the war in Spain dragged on as long as possible and thus tied up Hitler for a long time."

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This place has has held significant importance to Nationalists (overlooked typically by Wikipedians who are copy-pasters not experts) because it's the very place where Franco was convinced by junior officers to take armed revolt against the democratically elected government of Spain.

I suggest these to be used: Proposal

• Tenerife restarts plans to demolish Franco monument in Las Raíces

Work about to start

• The monument to Franco de Las Raíces will be removed

Work starts (2018) The council demolishes the monument to Franco located in Las Raíces, which will be replaced by a park

• Demolition begins

87.242.223.122 (talk) 15:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]