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Ennahdha
Ennahdha Party is rather more than a "rather common misspelling". It is the name the party uses for itself in English[1] and its URL uses nahdha, though the BBC uses Ennahda[2] --Rumping (talk) 21:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Name in English
Should this redirect to Ennahdha Party , given the comment above? If not, does this translate better to 'renaissance' or to 're-birth'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.13.73 (talk) 11:22, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Ennahda Movement by RJFF. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Renaissance Party → Renaissance Movement – In Arabic, it is Harakat an-Nahda, not Hizb an-Nahda (see Ettajdid Movement). Therefore, Renaissance Movement seems like a more appropriate name. — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 23:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- As suggested above, shouldn't this rather be at some variant of "Ennahda"? I've usually seen this party referred to by its Arabic name. Ucucha (talk) 20:47, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- I second Ennahda or Ennahda Movement as the most common terms in English-language media/publications. Regards --RJFF (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with RJFF that rather Ennahda should be used (with or without "Movement"). —Filippusson (t.) 21:52, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well Ennahda is already used so it would have to be Ennahda Movement. Now another question comes to mind: do we use Ennahda or Ennahdha? The letter ض is usually transliterated as d, but is pronounced dh among Tunisians. I don't know which is more common in the media. — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 22:17, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- I add my voice to the others, Ennahda Movement is more common and therefore more appropriate. Regarding the "dh vs d" question, I think that the standard adopted for this varies some use "dh" to express "ض" others use is to express "ذ" or "ظ" and then those who confuse the three. I think we should keep it "d" since getting into the transliteration details with their regional variations just adds confusion as there are no clear-cut standards. Further more "d" fits the pronunciation without the additional "h". Tachfin (talk) 05:21, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Regarding the unanimous discussion contributions, I have done it the quick way. I hope that no one will object. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 14:13, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- I add my voice to the others, Ennahda Movement is more common and therefore more appropriate. Regarding the "dh vs d" question, I think that the standard adopted for this varies some use "dh" to express "ض" others use is to express "ذ" or "ظ" and then those who confuse the three. I think we should keep it "d" since getting into the transliteration details with their regional variations just adds confusion as there are no clear-cut standards. Further more "d" fits the pronunciation without the additional "h". Tachfin (talk) 05:21, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well Ennahda is already used so it would have to be Ennahda Movement. Now another question comes to mind: do we use Ennahda or Ennahdha? The letter ض is usually transliterated as d, but is pronounced dh among Tunisians. I don't know which is more common in the media. — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 22:17, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with RJFF that rather Ennahda should be used (with or without "Movement"). —Filippusson (t.) 21:52, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- I second Ennahda or Ennahda Movement as the most common terms in English-language media/publications. Regards --RJFF (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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Dead link
Citation 24: "^ a b "TUNISIA: POLITICAL PARTIES, UNKNOWN TO 61% OF TUNISIANS - ANSAmed". ANSAMED.info. Retrieved 2011-10-26." seems to have moved, I'm unaware of how to edit the reference which shows up as a reflist to me when I attempt to change it, here is a new link to the same article: http://www.ansamed.biz/en/tunisia/news/ME.XEF02959.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackriter (talk • contribs) 04:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
No longer Islamist
According to this, this, this and this, Ennahda no longer defines itself as an Islamist party, but rather a "conservative" or even a "Muslim democrat" party, in a similar fashion to the Turkish AK Party, I assume.
I think this should replace the "Islamist" label in the article; in other words, a major revision of the whole article is needed. Though, of course we should include that the party was Islamist until 2016.
Μαρκος Δ (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Requested move 4 March 2020
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![]() | It was proposed in this section that Ennahdha Movement be renamed and moved to Ennahda Movement.
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Ennahdha Movement → Ennahda Movement – Unfortunately, the page was moved without discussion, at the supposedly uncontroversial technical request of User:HapHaxion. The reason was that this were the "official spelling used by the party". However, the Wikipedia policy for article titles does not necessarily prefer official names. Instead, the policy is to use the most common name of the subject used in independent, reliable English-language sources. Both in news media and in academic publications, the prevalent spelling is "Ennahda", without 'h' after the 'd'. See e.g. Google News, Books, Scholar. Therefore, the move should be undone. RJFF (talk) 17:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 20:37, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- The article itself also uses the "Ennahdha" spelling throughout. Either way, the name used in the title (whatever it may be) should be harmonized with what is in the article. So if it is changed back to Ennahda, all instances of the name in the article need to be changed as well. HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 07:08, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- The spelling "Ennahda" was used all over the article, until User:TK Ennahdha changed it unilaterally with this edit ("minor spelling changes"). --RJFF (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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Requested move 27 July 2021
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The result of the move request was: moved. No objections in nearly a month. (closed by non-admin page mover) Mdewman6 (talk) 21:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Ennahda Movement → Ennahda – I don't see much reason to include movement in the title. See [3] and [4] for example. The French wiki has Ennahda without movement. Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Bada Kaji (talk • श्रीमान् गम्भीर) 15:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)