Talk:Delegated voting

Mr. Nordfors, the removal of any mention of your name from the article's text does not prevent this article from violating conflict of interest guidelines. Realkyhick 08:15, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I agree that an article written by an author about a project he is involved in is suspect to POV issues. On the other hand, if the facts presented are mentioned elsewhere, there is no reason why such an article should be deleted just because of the author. The WP guideline says: "conflict of interest is an incompatibility between the purpose of Wikipedia, to produce a neutral encyclopedia, and the aims of individual editors. These include editing for the sake of promoting oneself, other individuals, causes, organizations, companies, or products, as well as suppressing negative information, and criticizing competitors." So what of those is the case here? Missing criticism about the object? --Bernd-vdb 19:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I may be carrying over my old journalistic habits here, instead of strictly hewing to WP policy. But in this case, the conflict of interest is pretty direct, since the article is about a principle that the author credits himself with inventing. If there were sources elsewhere to give this principle some verification (and it's not my job to come up with those sources), I might concede a bit. But there's none given by Nordfors, so despite his best intentions, the article in its present form still violates WP:COI. If he, or preferably someone else without direct interest in the principle/movement, can improve things with verfiabile sources, I'll be more than happy to reconsider my stance. (In case you're wondering, I don't have any opinion the principle of delegated voting, so I don't have an axe to grind here.) Realkyhick 22:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I can't find the place in the text where the author "credits himself with inventing" delegated voting. This would also be a really ridiculous statement. These kind of systems have been used various times in human history. Are the "local political party demoex" and the "World Parliament Experiment" founded or driven by Mr. Nordfors? --Bernd-vdb 14:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, we have the same lemma in the german Wikipedia de:Delegated Voting, and the article is around since July 2004... --Bernd-vdb 14:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Check the history of the article, especially Nordfors' edits. Nordfors himself created the article and took credit for inventing delegated voting, then removed the credit in recent edits after I expressed my concerns. Remember, Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Despite the fact that Nordfors removed the credit, the evidence is still there. This subject may well be worth an article, but in its present form it is largely Nordfors promoting his own principle, which violates WP:SOAPBOX. I'll add that I have no position on the subject, or even any knowledge of it; insufficient context has been provided for me to form an opinion. If someone else, preferably someone not advocating a position on the subject either way, can improve this article by citing outside sources and the like, I'd be very happy. I'd do it myself, except that my lack of knowledge of the subject makes me a poor candidate to do so. I'm simply concerned about the appropriateness, in accordance with WP guidelines, of the article as it stands now. ( 15:17, 22 February 2007 by Realkyhick )

Hmm, we just had an edit conflict. So, I tried to wikify the text a bit, with a more neutral tone, and add a link here and there. Thruth is, it was not a good style of Mr. Nordfors to propagate "his" concept in this way. But actually it's not _his_ concept in the end, others have described and discussed these things independently. So maybe we can leave it the way it is now. See if you can live with this for the moment, Realkyhick, and in case pls take away the deletion warning. --Bernd-vdb 15:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since there appears to be a good-faith effort in improving this article, I'm removing my proposed deletion {{prod}} tag. Let's see how everything plays out. We still need some more citations from outside sources that can be verified, especially something we can directly link to. Realkyhick 15:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the only difference between delegated voting and proxy voting that the former is transitive and the latter isn't necessarily? Thespian Seagull (talk) 18:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]