Talk:Armenian Catholic Church
"represents a schism from the AAC"
I believe this is a) not NPOV and b) contradicted by the later statement 'the church of the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia entered into a union with the Catholi Church'. I suggest it be changed to 'represents a church resulting from a schism of the Armenian Apostolic Church' or the sentence omitted entirely. Richardson mcphillips1 (talk) 17:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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Leopolis
That struck me. Is there a reason the Latin name was used? I would like to change it to Lviv (which is what it links to anyways). --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 14:53, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't see why it can't be clarified as being modern-day Lviv, but in brackets, as Leopolis would not be a recognised naming convention: i.e., Leopolis (Lviv). The nomenclature of the time, however, should be retained. This is an issue which other editors of this page should decide. If there are no responses within a couple of days, you should certainly be WP:BOLD and make the change. If nothing else, it will certainly bring any policy and guideline based objections or support to the table.
- Given that you've posed the question, you've already opened up any issues per WP:BRD. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wouldn't want to change it without input like yours. I wonder what you mean by nomenclature of the time. Lviv was never Latin-speaking. On the other hand, it is possible that the see of the Armenian Catholic bishop of Lviv was always known by its Latin title - perhaps that's what you mean. In that case yes, you are right.
- I agree using Leopolis (Lviv) or even Leopolis (Lviv), which I would prefer. We should use primarily the name of the city that was common in English at the time. Most cities -- as well as countries and even regular objects -- have different names in different languages. What non-English speakers call the city, including any non-English residents, should not be our primary guide. Further, like English in general, a city's English name will evolve and change. I think that we should use the English name most closely associated with the specific historical event, which is usually the name that was common in English at the time. (P.S. I've indented the comment immediately above just to make the formatting consistent.) --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 02:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's usually the preference to use the historical name with a link to the contemporary city/territory unless there is an article dealing with historical context. If it were a more complex article, there could be legitimate arguments for contemporary over historical, but I don't see that such arguments are warranted here. Cheers for your tidying up the article! You've done an excellent job of cleaning up duplications of information, redundant information and making it more succinct for readers. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree using Leopolis (Lviv) or even Leopolis (Lviv), which I would prefer. We should use primarily the name of the city that was common in English at the time. Most cities -- as well as countries and even regular objects -- have different names in different languages. What non-English speakers call the city, including any non-English residents, should not be our primary guide. Further, like English in general, a city's English name will evolve and change. I think that we should use the English name most closely associated with the specific historical event, which is usually the name that was common in English at the time. (P.S. I've indented the comment immediately above just to make the formatting consistent.) --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 02:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wouldn't want to change it without input like yours. I wonder what you mean by nomenclature of the time. Lviv was never Latin-speaking. On the other hand, it is possible that the see of the Armenian Catholic bishop of Lviv was always known by its Latin title - perhaps that's what you mean. In that case yes, you are right.
new martyr saints
When the Catholicos Karekin II canonized the victims of the Great Crime, did he intend to canonize only the ones who were members of the Armenian Apostolic Church? Would any Catholics who were killed have been canonized too? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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Catholic Church naming conventions RfC
There is currently an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Catholic Church)#RfC: should this page be made a naming convention that may be of interest. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:50, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
This is not the Armenian Apostolic Church
Please be careful not to confuse this church with the other one. 17:29, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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