Talk:Allied logistics in the Kokoda Track campaign/GA1

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 04:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article has already passed Milhist A-Class review, so I doubt it will struggle to pass GAN. I'll just give it a quick once-over to see if there are any tweaks to be made. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• suggest linking Kokoda Track campaign in the lead

  Y It was linked. Changed to make this explicit at the cost of some repetition. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• in the lead, air transport and native carriers are mentioned, then they are expanded on in the opposite order (carriers then air), perhaps reverse one or the other to improve logical flow?

  Y Re-ordered. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• the 39th Battalion and 53rd Infantry Battalions

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• might be worth mentioning the 7th Division was AIF?

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• when ANGAU is mentioned for the first time, it might be worth explaining what it was/did straight away as it is important to the native carrier part of the logistics story

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• "This represented a dangerous situation" I assume due to the Japanese air attacks? Might be worth noting that?

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• I would have thought speed for the Liberty ships should be given in knots and converted into other speeds rather than the other way round?

  Because another editor wanted everything consistently in metric. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Which Australian docks operating company was it?

  2/1st Docks Operating Company. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• in general, the airfields section should probably be chronological in terms of when each one was started. For example, 30-Mile is mentioned (and linked) in the context of the bridge washout at Schwimmer before we even know it existed. This isn't an easy fix, I know, but maybe start by introducing all the airfields then breaking them down individually?

  Y Introduced them all at the beginning. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:19, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Twelve Mile Drome was renamed Berry Drome - but we haven't heard about 12-Mile as yet, just 7, 3, 14 and 5? Related to the above point about 30.
• there is some inconsistency in compass directions, southwest, but also south east

  Y Typo. Should be "south west". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Shouldn't it be Ward's rather than Wards?

  From a grammatical POV, yes, but that isn't how it was named. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  Not sure it's that cut and dried [1] and [2], but ok. I also saw it as Ward Drome on a Google Books search. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:32, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  Consistency was not a strong suit in SWPA due to the campaign being fought in both US and Australian English. I chose it this way because (1) it matches most of the sources and (2) it is consistent with the other articles on Wikipedia. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Were there two different Colonel A.G. Matthews? If not, the second iteration can be changed to just Matthews, as he has already been introduced

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Where the narrative gets to the carriers, a bit more about ANGAU would be good at that point, as they essentially organised the carriers. Perhaps move the bit that starts "On 15 June 1942..." and the following para to this point

• when the drop zones are first mentioned in the context of the carriers, it is a bit of surprise, as air dropping and drop zones hadn't been properly mentioned before, it is a bit of chicken and egg problem, I know, but still...

  Y removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• caused it to weight more

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• should probably explain that 21st Tpt Sqn was a US one, ditto 22nd

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• The KNILM and RNEIAAF initialisations are unfamiliar, perhaps in full when introduced with parentheses after?

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• I suggest inserting the para that begins "On 21 May, the 21st Transport Squadron" immediately after "Australia from Java." to maintain the flow regarding the US squadrons

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• suggest a sentence fragment explaining what Kanga Force was

  Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

More to come Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• one thing that stands out to me (it is probably more an A-Class or FA thing than GAN though) is there seems to be limited information on the logistic function of equipment repair and maintenance, both for Army and RAAF/USAAF. From what I've read, the 30th Brigade's LAD was set up at the Rouna Pass to fix vehicles that broke down on the one-way section of the vehicle track there. BTW, there is a good pic of a truck on the pass (albeit in 1943) on the AWM site (059646).
• link 3rd Field Ambulance (Australia)

  Y linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• perhaps mention that Fairley was the Army's Director of Medicine and Mackerras was an expert on malaria?

  Y Done. Note that I wrote the article on Fairley. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• link Dysentery

  Already linked in the Geography section. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• perhaps mention that Ford was Assistant Director of Pathology?

  Y Wrote that one too. It was the "spin off" Good Article from the Fairley article. Fairley was my first FAC. It gave me the courage to work on more controversial articles. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• sick men to travelbe evacuated?

  Travel is what I meant. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• link Scrub typhus

  Already linked in the Geography section. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• perhaps mention who Coates was

  Y Alright. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• suggest hyphenating the isbn for Kienzle for consistency with the rest

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Rupert checked the licensing at A-Class, so I don't propose repeating that process.

There's something weird about the way the campaign boxes on the right expand, they go off the right side of the page frame on both my monitors. Just wondering if it is just a Google Chrome thing or happens in general?

• It's not happening to me with Firefox. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's me done. Great job, really comprehensive. My only outstanding point is that one about equipment repair and maintenance, I suggest you see if you can locate anything on that before FAC. Placing on hold for the last few comments to be addressed. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:48, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the book I need for that is Craftsmen of the Australian Army, and its back in Canberra. It will have to wait until I return. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, as I said, more of a FAC thing than GAN. This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by appropriately licensed images with appropriate captions. Passing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]