Talk:2024 CrowdStrike incident/Archive 3

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Firstly, Is it needed? Do we need to list the companies that weren't effected? Also the article linked is very speculatory. "Some are attributing that to Windows 3.1. Major portions of Southwest’s systems are reportedly built on Windows 95 and Windows 3.1" AidenT06 (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@AidenT06 Doesn't add to anything of value to the article, agreed. PipitSweet16 (talk) 22:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Windows 3.1 is thirty years old. This is nonsense. 24.40.254.80 (talk) 22:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

That's certainly a weirdly specific (and perhaps embarrassing) reason for not being a CrowdStrike customer. 3df (talk) 22:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@AidenT06 I also agree. While humorous, the Digital Trends article links to another article written by a Forbes.com contributor, which is generally unreliable. The Forbes article itself then links to The Dallas Morning News which quotes someone saying Southwest's systems look like they were designed on Windows 95, without really confirming anything. Limmidy (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

We need to see if this is notable enough (as per wp:n) to include see if major news publications anything about this if not it can be omitted,

Thanks

Daisytheduck ^{talk to me} 22:31, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

The fact remains that Southwest and FedEx remained operational, and for the same reason. kencf0618 (talk) 22:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

But it’s not relevant. I could list thousands of companies that had no issues AidenT06 (talk) 22:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

List thousands of global airlines.kencf0618 (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Alaska does not use it either. Trigenibinion (talk) 13:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Flybondi and LATAM were not affected. Trigenibinion (talk) 13:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

The talk page is 130 kB. May we change the archive period to one day? --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

The current period (90 days) definitely seems too long... GhostOfNoMeme 00:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Even switching to three days might be enough as that would archive over 25% of the talk page discussions automatically. --Super Goku V (talk) 00:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree with 3 days. That seems like a reasonable duration for a fast-paced article such as this, with significant discussion being generated. GhostOfNoMeme 00:53, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I've updated the duration to 3 days. It can be shortened if necessary, but considering the activity this seems about right and is consistent with similar articles' talk pages. GhostOfNoMeme 01:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd suggest manually archiving sections (See: User:Elli/OneClickArchiver) and keeping the archival period less aggressive. I've changed it to 5 days and archived some threads. - Fuzheado | Talk 14:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

• Reply - I am OK with 3 days. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:06, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

How large was this binary file? kencf0618 (talk) 10:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kencf0618 not sure what you're talking about but currently the file size of the article is 188,553 bytes. Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉edits 11:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

CloudStrike's faulty file Trigenibinion (talk) 11:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I've come across one reference, but no others, and that one seemed sketchy. kencf0618 (talk) 19:44, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

the citation for elon musk removing crowdstrike requires paying or signing up for an account. is this allowed? 81.100.136.25 (talk) 07:55, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

@81.100.136.25 Yes, see WP:PAYWALL. I marked that source as needing subscription just now also. Aveaoz (talk) 09:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

yes but it’s not a hard to access source, just linking the tweet would be better? 81.100.136.25 (talk) 12:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Linking both to a tweet and a reliable source discussing it is probably best. Tweets are not presumed notable by default. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:02, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee:, why did you delete the paragraph on the disruptions that were suffered by Amazon? The contents were clearly referenced including quotes and were from a published source i.e. CNBC, the American business news channel. You didn't even put a reason, just a straight delete. Microsoft–CrowdStrike issue causes ‘largest IT outage in history’

On WP:Blogs it says: "Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control" and following on "Note that otherwise reliable news sources--for example, the website of a major news organization--that happens to publish in a "blog" style format for some or all of its content may be considered to be equally reliable as if it were published in a more "traditional" 20th-century format of a classic news story."

The deleted paragraph was taken from a CNBC blog, but the subject seems to justify its inclusion. Richard Nowell (talk) 11:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks like that was an edit conflict. Valereee (talk) 12:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

I think I've added it back, please check my work! Valereee (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks good, thankyou for your help with this matter. Richard Nowell (talk) 20:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

yes amazon trucking operations were disrupted 173.72.3.91 (talk) 18:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

 Already resolved: From the article, Amazon suffered disruption to its warehouse operations [...] An app used in Amazon warehouses to manage schedules and time-off requests called 'A to Z' was taken down by the outage and an internal service called 'Anytime Pay' became unavailable to employees. Operations were briefly halted at some sites, while Amazon's trucking operations were disrupted, with drivers saying a platform they use called 'Relay' suffered issues meaning they were briefly unable to pick up loads at warehouses This was restored to the article on the 20th. There doesn't seem to be anything more to do here. --Super Goku V (talk) 09:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)