User talk:Enterprisey

Time to finally touch some grass. May be back someday. You can consider my projects "unmaintained"; I would be happy to help anyone looking to take on maintenance of any of them. In particular, Legoktm and 0xDeadbeef are the two other maintainers of apersonbot on Toolforge and should thus be your first point of contact for any of those projects. Keep in touch! Messages are warmly appreciated, whether via email, Discord (where my username is doctor_worm), or IRC. What's next? Probably a lot more FRC. Thank you all so much for the many good memories over the years. <3 Stay cool, Enterprisey (talk!) 03:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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When I'm online, I'm always sometimes accessible in #wikipedia-en connect. If that doesn't work, I'll probably be in WP:DISCORD. If you're here about the reply-link script, please use User talk:Enterprisey/reply-link.

What's Enterprisey working on? (As of 23:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)) (edit) Ah, arbcom. Also other stuff; was looking at the responder rfc recently, but the edit request overhaul ("making editing easier 2021") is probably bigger-impact. Older stuff I'll get to at some point At some point: Finish bot task for this Bots are all busted Half the tools are busted (check in on pending-subs, perm-archive, cat-track, etc) easy-brfa afd stats User_talk:Enterprisey/Archive_8#Adminscore User talk:Enterprisey/Archive 8#AFCHS Big projects Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Inline Templates/Archive 4#Semi-automation of tagging Wikipedia:Making editing easier 2021 Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Responder role Wikipedia:Workflow improvements Citation Bot and all the other reference-filling bots... the area seems like it needs a little help

I've edited your reply-link.js script here to not reload the page. Instead it retrieves the new section content via ajax. Could you please test this version. It works intermittently for me and I am not sure why. --Gryllida (talk) 01:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please check this issue and also that one in afch. If you do not have time to implement any of this then guidance about how to do it would be most appreciated, as I have a beginner knowledge of JavaScript. Gryllida (talk) 00:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For at least 2 days, the above tool hangs without results. — Maile (talk) 13:27, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me, took 645.19 seconds, though. Sam Sailor 13:52, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The wmflabs.org servers have been experiencing problems the last days, so that might have caused it. Regards SoWhy 14:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Server glitches makes sense. I wonder if it's browser specific. I just changed computers to check this, and it doesn't work for me on either computer. Both computers use Firefox 67.0 (64-bit) Although, until yesterday, I never had an issue pulling this up. — Maile (talk) 14:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not browser-specific. I just tried it on Chrome Version 74.0.3729.169 (Official Build) (64-bit). Still doesn't pull up for me. — Maile (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just put MusikAnimal's code up and it seems to be behaving (if really slowly) now. Enterprisey (talk!) 17:32, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hooray! It works! — Maile (talk) 17:49, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And now it doesn't. — Maile (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And now it does. Just takes forever. — Maile (talk) 01:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

Administrator changes

Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický

CheckUser changes

Ivanvector

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
• An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
• An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

Technical news

• The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
• Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous

• The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
• The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.

Project page was moved to Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories, could you update the script? Thanks, Sam Sailor 06:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...should fail gracefully, given an error, or do something when encountering the spam blacklist. I tried to add a rd1 tag to a page, and one of the sources tripped the blacklist. Rather than closing, giving an error, or doing anything, the script just remained in the same state, except that it didn't add the actual tag. See [1]. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:22, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Had such a case today with Italian Islands of the Aegean. Manually trying to add {{copyvio-revdel}} with the first URL from this case brought up MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext. Sam Sailor 06:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See [2]. Could you check what's going on? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, the revdel script is not allowing me to select diffs. This is happening across all articles. I have tried to bypass my cache. I have also tried Safari and Chrome and see no applicable errors in console. I have also turned all of my other scripts off to test for interactions. 19:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

[3] This would allow better sorting of bot ops in the table, rather than have 'none' in the middle of the sort. See [4] for how that would affect the table. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:41, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would also be nice to have usernames linked. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there is an issue with headers with links with a leading : in them. The current TOC has

• Wikipedia:Bot requests#One-off AWB task: move pages in Wikipedia namespace from :Category:Personal userbox galleries

instead of

• Wikipedia:Bot requests#One-off AWB task: move pages in Wikipedia namespace from Category:Personal userbox galleries

because of [[:Category:Personal userbox galleries]] used to generate the link. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:18, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Again an issue at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot to clear :Category:Journal articles needing infoboxes vs Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot to clear Category:Journal articles needing infoboxes. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).

Administrator changes

28bytes • Ad Orientem • Ansh666 • Beeblebrox • Boing! said Zebedee • BU Rob13 • Dennis Brown • Deor • DoRD • Floquenbeam¹ • Flyguy649 • Fram² • Gadfium • GB fan • Jonathunder • Kusma • Lectonar • Moink • MSGJ • Nick • Od Mishehu • Rama • Spartaz • Syrthiss • TheDJ • WJBscribe

¹Floquenbeam's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

²Fram's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment seeking to alleviate pressures on the request an account (ACC) process proposes either raising the account creation limit for extended confirmed editors or granting the account creator permission on request to new ACC tool users.

• In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.

• The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
• The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
• A request for comment seeks to determine whether Wikipedia:Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.

Technical news

• The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.

Miscellaneous

• In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop Fram. This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.

Hi! Could you add a filter for Pending AfC Submissions to only show untagged ones (no WikiProjects), so one would have easier time going through the list specifically for tagging them for other to find later. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 09:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hellknowz, I think your idea is good, but I'm a bit worried (rationally or not :p) about cluttering up the interface. Would User:SD0001/draft-sort-burst possibly work as an alternative? Let me know if you still want this to be added, and I might make a toollabs:yabbr mode for this or something. (Or just add the checkbox.) Enterprisey (talk!) 21:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh cool, I didn't know burst-sort script existed. I tried it and it looks good. Unfortunately, it lacks the features of bigger scripts like Rater, such as task force tagging or special parameters like "living" for bios. Talk page is also not necessarily empty for untagged drafts. In short, I would prefer to use a different script for tagging. But it's totally on point otherwise. May be a link to the script could be added at the bottom?

Anyway, my own reasoning for having a checkbox in the main list is that I can't find topics by name that I am interested in and know enough about to review after I ran out of tagged pages for relevant projects. The time it takes to find an AfC I can review is almost more than reviewing itself. I can see when something is yet another bio or village in India and skip it. But I can also guess that "Space Cadet 3000" is likely a video game. Random tagging isn't really appealing to me and often I have no idea what project(s) something belongs to.

I think the UI can easily support more checkboxes and such. Editors who review AfCs are not new to Wikipedia. I imagine people using Labs tools for this are used to software tools. Given the number of AfCs, I think any filtering to accommodate more specific reviewing is good. Even if it's hidden by default behind a foldout or something.

On a relevant note, I am planning to add AfCs to article alerts, and properly-tagged banners is a requirement to have the pages reported. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 09:03, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"properly-tagged banners" here meaning "drafts properly tagged by banners" Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:20, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, should be updated with the new checkbox next time the update script runs, which will be at about 10:20 UTC. Enterprisey (talk!) 09:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hellknowz: small hiccup, but now we're in business! Check it out. Enterprisey (talk!) 11:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So I wasn't crazy then, there was an issue with the checkboxes earlier. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:11, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! Now if only the detection was always correct :) A bunch of pages listed as untagged actually have project banners. For example, Draft talk:Agritask, Draft talk:UFC Now, Draft talk:Corey Arnold, Draft talk:Musa Arfakiana, etc. I couldn't find any pattern of why they aren't detected when I was looking through the list before. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 12:52, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hellknowz, the tool uses User:Enterprisey/ibx-wproj-map.js as the way to determine which banners and infoboxes are owned by which projects, so if a project isn't in there the tool won't know about it. Enterprisey (talk!) 23:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just look for which templates are on the page, and follow any directs, and see if the string WikiProject appears in them? Wouldn't work for the non-standard ones like {{maths rating}}, but it would work for >99% of the rest. Your list could then be a backup/failsafe for the cornercases. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know of five WikiProject banners that don't have the word WikiProject in their template names: {{Alphabet Task Force}}; {{Maths banner}}; {{Wikipedia Help Project}}; {{Women's Classical Committee}}; and {{WP1.0}} - there may be others. Whatever their publically-facing name, most WikiProject banners have {{WPBannerMeta}} as the second (or third, if it's a wrapper like {{WikiProject Mississippi}}) layer inward - I know of four that don't, these are listed at Template:WPBannerMeta/Conversion. Note that the maths people have two distinct banners, one for articles only and one for everything else. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply link does load on Minerva skin. But unfortunately preview and reply feature don't work. Could you please optimize this script for mobile? Masum Reza^📞 09:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I re-instated the info about why the names of the deceased have yet to be released. In my opinion it doesn't need a time stamp as the information is still true that the victims haven't been identified yet. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Knowledgekid87: - to sneak in an answer, time stamps are wanted for edits, as at some stage it won't be correct. That's fine if the editor always immediately appeared and updated, but that's not always the case. As such, it's helpful to add it in so that, in the event it's not updated, readers can know "ok that was the case 4 weeks ago, but might not be now" Nosebagbear (talk) 12:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yo; any chance you could still write this script when you have a moment? It would be much appreciated. Erik Humphrey (talk) 19:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Will do. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Erik Humphrey, see User:Enterprisey/edit-section-on-hover.js. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your efforts! Erik Humphrey (talk) 12:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, re this edit - why were Whispyhistory (talk · contribs) and Philafrenzy (talk · contribs) not also informed? They were informed about other DYKs in the same bot run (Philafrenzy, Whispyhistory), and Template:Did you know nominations/Challacombe scale names both of them before myself. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:47, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will investigate. Off the top of my head, if the bot thinks their talk pages already link to the article or nomination page, or if they were notified in the past, no notification will be sent. (Probably doesn't apply here, though.) Enterprisey (talk!) 23:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like when I try to do any lookup at https://tools.wmflabs.org/rm-stats/ I get a 500 error (or sometimes a blank 200 response, then a 500 on subsequent refreshes). I poked around the logs at /data/project/rm-stats but didn't see any obvious explanation - actually I didn't see any log entries since May 2019, which is weird. Anyways, just thought I'd let you know.

Also, I noticed your tool because I was looking for my own tool (https://tools.wmflabs.org/rmstats/) in a directory, and realized I had accidentally semi-plagiarized another tool's name. If that's a problem for you, let me know, and I can look into renaming my tool to something that's less likely to get confused with yours. Colin M (talk) 17:39, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Allow for WikiProject tagging without doing a full review to help with WP:AALERTS when submissions go live and a reviewer doesn't feel qualified, but still wants to help in some way.
• Automatic reload fails
• Cleaning should add |small= (e.g. [5])
• Deal with WikiProject banners (e.g. [6])
• Deal with duplicated categories / Make sure the categories are below the default sort (e.g. [7])
• Invite people to Wikiprojects upon successful submissions
• Cleanup more stuff, maybe making use of some of WP:JWB, when doing 'cleanup/accepting/whatever'

This should provide a decent worklist of what's been requested. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anything I've missed / any progress on this ? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:08, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ping? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

Administrator changes Johnuniq • Kosack • Valereee Ad Orientem • Ched • Gadfium • Jonathunder • Nick • Yelyos Bald Zebra • Beetstra • Doug Bell • Journalist • Ruud Koot • Splash • Voice of Clam Interface administrator changes Dinoguy1000

CheckUser changes RickinBaltimore Oversight changes Beeblebrox RickinBaltimore

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, the page Wikipedia:Office actions has been changed from a policy page to an information page.
• A request for comment (permalink) is in progress regarding the administrator inactivity policy.

Arbitration

• Editors may now use the template {{Ds/aware}} to indicate that they are aware that discretionary sanctions are in force for a topic area, so it is unnecessary to alert them.

Miscellaneous

• Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
• The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.

  Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.

Heya Enterprisey! I've looked more into IFTTT's "New edit with hashtag" feature, and I'm under the impression that it looks for literal hashtags in the edit summary, as https://hashtags.wmflabs.org/ looks for edits with hashtags in the edit summary, and as WP:HASHTAG explains. It'd be a great help if you could add hashtags, like #DEFCON1, to Enterprisey's edit summary on WP:DEFCON, so I could make a notification using IFTTT. Thanks for taking time out of your day to help someone, and possibly several others out! andritolion (talk) 16:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

​ Right now the AFD stats page for me outputs "The remaining 133 pages had no discernible vote by this user." but does not indicate which pages those are. Could a list of pages be added which were processed but for which the bot said "nope, don't see anything cool here"? And/or a list of specific edits made in each. Could be a "see this other page for additional details" kind of thing, kind of like how xtools works. --Izno (talk) 18:43, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd second this. It would be a nice feature to have. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:48, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno: You might want to try my fork of AFDstats at https://tools.wmflabs.org/ahechtbot/afdstats.py?name=Izno. It detects votes in a few extra situations that the main version doesn't, but more importantly it will show "undetermined" votes in the list (these tended to be mostly "Move" votes in my case) and there is a "Show pages without detected votes" link to show all the AfD pages where no vote was detected. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:33, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahecht: I get a 502 bad gateway with that link. Windows 10, Chrome 78.0.3904.97. --Izno (talk) 18:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno: Try it again now. Looks like toolforge was rebooting. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:47, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This tool is malfunctioning. In these diffs, it removed important information and edited parts of the articles, it wasn't supposed to. [8] [9] [10]. Masum Reza^📞 00:45, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Enterprisey, following your successful nomination, you have been added to the Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group. You may want to watchlist Wikipedia:BAG/Status to see changes to the backlog. Welcome to the BAG. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:36, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! SQL^{Query me!} 18:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea — Congrats! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:32, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Greetings! Here is the 7th issue of the Bots Newsletter, a lot happened since last year's newsletter! You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list. Highlights for this newsletter include: ARBCOM Nothing of note happened. Just like we like it. BAG Several (1 + 12 = 13) users have been retired/resigned from the BAG due to inactivity, per our new activity requirements (discussion). BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the pulse of the community. After two years without any bot-related activity (such as posting on bot-related pages, posting on a bot's talk page, or operating a bot), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice. Retired members can re-apply for BAG membership as normal if they wish to rejoin the BAG. Two BAG members retired Madman (talk · contribs) retired. BU Rob13 (talk · contribs) vanished and retired. Three new BAG members have been voted in, welcome to the BAG! Primefac (talk · contribs) joined on 2018-12-12 (RfBAG). Primefac operates PrimeBOT (talk · contribs) which does a plethora of tasks. TheSandDoctor (talk · contribs) joined on 2019-01-21 (RfBAG). TheSandDoctor operates several bots including DeprecatedFixerBot (talk · contribs). Enterprisey (talk · contribs) joined on 2019-08-07 (RfBAG). Enterprisey operates EnterpriseyBot (talk · contribs), which does a plethora of tasks, RemindMeBot (talk · contribs) which posts reminders, and codes several scripts. We thank former members for their service and wish Madman a happy retirement. We note that Madman and BU Rob13 were not inactive and could resume their BAG positions if they so wished, should their retirements happens to be temporary. BOTDICT Two new entries feature in the bots dictionary Editor-hostile wikitext – describes wikitext structuring that is editor hostile, even if it renders correctly Spectrum of usefulness – describes how tasks are deemed useful or not BOTPOL Activity requirements: BAG members now have an activity requirement. The requirements are very light, one only needs to be involved in a bot-related area at some point within the last two years. For purpose of meeting these requirements, discussing a bot-related matter anywhere on Wikipedia counts, as does operating a bot (RFC). Copyvio flag: Bot accounts may be additionally marked by a bureaucrat upon BAG request as being in the "copyviobot" user group on Wikipedia. This flag allows using the API to add metadata to edits for use in the New pages feed (discussion). There is currently 1 bot using this functionality. Mass creation: The restriction on mass-creation (semi-automated or automated) was extended from articles, to all content-pages. There are subtleties, but content here broadly means whatever a reader could land on when browsing the mainspace in normal circumstances (e.g. Mainspace, Books, most Categories, Portals, ...). There is also a warning that WP:MEATBOT still applies in other areas (e.g. Redirects, Wikipedia namespace, Help, maintenance categories, ...) not explicitely covered by WP:MASSCREATION. BOTREQs and BRFAs As of writing, we have... 20 active BOTREQs, please help if you can! 14 open BRFAs and 1 BRFA in need of BAG attention (see live status). In 2018, 96 bot task were approved. An AWB search shows approximately 29 were withdrawn/expired, and 6 were denied. Since the start of 2019, 97 bot task were approved. Logs show 15 were withdrawn/expired, and 15 were denied. 10 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion). 5 other bots have been deflagged per operator requests or similar (see discussion). New things All bot-related discussion pages now have a centralized and searchable archive box (see discussion). Discussions are searchable per noticeboard, or globally. {{Bot}} now supports |status=expired (see discussion). This led to the deletion of Category:Indefinitely blocked Wikipedia bots as useless (see discussion). WP:BOTREQ now mentions WP:SCRIPTREQ and WP:AWBTASKS as alternatives to bot requests. The bot creation guide now mentions bot flags, and two new languages Awk and MATLAB. Other minor tweaks have been made. AAlertBot has received major code updates. In particular, WP:AALERTS will now report splits, mergers, and AFC submissions. Citation bot has received several updates (User talk:Citation bot/Archive 10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17). In particular, the bot stopped the automated removal of |publisher= from {{cite journal}}, and stopped the automated addition of CiteSeerX links, and now uses OAuth to authenticate those who make requests of the bot. Other discussions These are some of the discussions that happened / are still happening since the last Bots Newsletter. Many are stale, but some are still active. Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Adminbots requests page Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Double-redirect tagging (2019) Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Long and Winding Road to Parsoid Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Bot-like user scripts Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#WP:URLREQ Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Wikipedia:Bots/Status Wikipedia talk:Bot Approvals Group#Minimum edits Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Minor update to WP:BOTISSUE Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Semi-automated Portal creation Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Clarification on "Bots operated by multiple users" Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Bots triggered by multiple users Wikipedia talk:Bots#How to use Special:ApiFeatureUsage See also the latest discussions at the bot noticeboard. Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 17:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

Dear user, I, with Willbb234, are a attempting to revive the Wikiproject Requested Articles, of which you are a member. If you wish to be a part of our effort, feel free to add your signature in it's talk page. Best regards, Eni vak (speak) 16:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you add a few active WikiProjects to the choices available in the AFCH acceptance field where reviewers add projects? Namely:

• American Open Wheel Racing
• Anime and manga
• Classical music
• Cryptocurrency
• Human–Computer Interaction
• Newspapers
• Translation studies
• Women writers

Thanks. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:32, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This should really be dynamically supporting every non-redirect Template:WikiProject ... banner, possibly excluding those from Category:Inactive WikiProjects. If a dynamic listing can't be had, then from a daily/weekly/monthly-updated list. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:07, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1 to some sort of automatic update. Maintaining this manually, while praiseworthy, is sub-optimal. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:45, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid to report that the tool is malfunctioning. The "user" and "number of discussions" text boxes work fine, but pulling up the results leads to a "ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR" error message on Google Chrome. Might be a domain issue in the code. ToThAc (talk) 00:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019).

Administrator changes

Bradv • Chetsford • Izno

Floquenbeam • Lectonar

DESiegel • Jake Wartenberg • Rjanag • Topbanana

CheckUser changes

Callanecc • LFaraone • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes

Callanecc • Fox • HJ Mitchell • LFaraone • There'sNoTime

Technical news

• Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
• The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.

Arbitration

• A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2019 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

Miscellaneous

• A global request for comment is in progress regarding whether a user group should be created that could modify edit filters across all public Wikimedia wikis.

Hello, Enterprisey! :)

I'm an admin at the Albanian Wikipedia and I tend to look after the technical side of the project. Recently I've been trying to find how to make a welcoming bot but instead I found many pages of past discussions about how that idea is kind of despised in the EnWiki community. I've read most of them and I know how the Welcoming Community here does the job better than bots and I really value you for that. Unfortunately we don't have that many of active users in our community and the advantages of having a welcoming bot far outweigh the disadvantages of it. We'd like a bot to be able to use the WikiLove extension to give out the welcoming template from it on new users' pages. As I mentioned early, we're a small community and I didn't have anyone to ask for advice on my homewiki about it so i tried asking at the EnWiki. I saw your username at the Bot Approvals Group and thought I'd give it a try. Can you help me with this situation? I should mention that I've never created or helped create a bot before so I'm not very informed on the subject but I'm willing to do what I can to help. - Klein Muçi (talk) 22:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my message there. Interstellarity (talk) 17:31, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

For https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats

I suggest that it use, or at least report, the current state of the article. Is the article currently: Deleted; Redirected; Live? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is a ticket for your Meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Citations/Dealing with unsourced additions - "citation needed" button suggestion, created by Huggle user User:Petrb who also had a interesting suggestion. I've added the Phab ticket to the "results" table. Thanks again for the suggestion. HLHJ (talk) 05:17, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

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• The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

giving a 500 - Internal Server error :-( ∯WBG^converse 15:59, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Winged Blades of Godric, is this still happening? I just tried it and didn't get one. Enterprisey (talk!) 19:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nah; it's all fixed by now! Sorry for bothering you. ∯WBG^converse 11:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I thought I'd stop by and thank you for your useful scripts. It's hard to remember how I ever managed without things like User:Enterprisey/script-installer, User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel or User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink, so thanks for putting all that hard. While I'm at it, a simple suggestion. Much like User:Enterprisey/sync-template-sandbox, how about a script that merges the sandbox back into the main after testing is finished? I find that I do that quite often when responding to {{edit template-protected}}. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 09:25, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Muhandes, good idea! I'm wondering what sort of confirmation you'd want for this - I know that I certainly wouldn't want to accidentally overwrite a highly-used template this way. Maybe just the usual popup "confirm" box? Enterprisey (talk!) 16:13, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that should be enough. --Muhandes (talk) 20:51, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello there Enterprisey, I just recently became aware of some of your tool work on wiki. It looks like you've worked on/replaced/repaired some of the ScottyWong tools. Is there perhaps a fix or replacement for this one? I did see the "voting pattern" one for RfA, but was interested in seeing how a single user voted over multiple RfAs. TY for all your great work - it's appreciated. — Ched (talk) 23:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I remember there certainly used to be one (as in a version more recent than scottywong's). I thought it was in xtools, but I checked there and didn't see it. I put a few minutes into looking elsewhere but couldn't find anything. I would certainly be happy to make it myself if one can't be found, although I'm a bit busy IRL lately (...when is that ever not the case, haha) so we might have to delay a bit. That said, I'm going to try to get as much stuff out the door as possible before the upcoming WikiConference, so there's a good chance we'll have a tool like this by then. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Enterprisey/delsort.js may need to be updated to use "csrfToken" as well. It didn't work for me for the past few days. feminist (talk) 02:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up! Guess I gotta go through all my user scripts now. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Now fixed. Sorry about the small delay. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:13, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

T233443 and sub-tasks might be of interest to you :-) ∯WBG^converse 12:46, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, been following them! Very excited to see what comes of that. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enterprisey, Good'y. I have been using the above script to do the delsort at AfD; however, for the last week, it seems after I have selected the subje from the "Delsort list", I could not make a save. Kindly advise and thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed; thank you for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) 01:13, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You said you were wondering if this is possible, so here's how:

1. Fetch the Parsoid HTML, e.g. from https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/html/The_Fighting_Temeraire/914474798. Note the revision ID and the "etag" HTTP header value.
2. Fetch the Parsoid data for your HTML output, e.g. from https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/data-parsoid/The_Fighting_Temeraire/914474798/c26208b0-f29e-11e9-b2c6-a5178ebb33fb (using the revision ID and the etag – you need to pass the etag to request the data for a particular parse result, since changes in transcluded templates affect the output).
3. Fetch the wikitext source, e.g. from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire?oldid=914474798&action=raw (or the API)

Then, to find the wikitext position corresponding to a piece of the HTML output, for example this link in the second paragraph:

<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="./HMS_Temeraire_(1798)" title="HMS Temeraire (1798)" id="mwEg">HMS <i id="mwEw">Temeraire</i></a>

…you take its id and take the JSON data for it, for this example it's:

"mwEg":{"stx":"piped","a":{"href":"./HMS_Temeraire_(1798)"},"sa":{"href":"HMS Temeraire (1798)"},"dsr":[906,948,23,2]}

The dsr numbers (I think this stands for "data source range") are the wikitext positions of the beginning and end of the markup, and the lengths of the opening and closing "tag". In this example, the characters 906 to 948 in the wikitext are:

[[HMS Temeraire (1798)|HMS ''Temeraire'']]

…where the 23-character opening tag is [[HMS Temeraire (1798)| and the 2-character closing tag is ]].

Some of the other properties are documented at mw:Parsoid/Internals/data-parsoid (which also says that this is internal and subject to change at any time, but AFAIK it hasn't changed much since Parsoid was invented).

I hope this helps, or is at least interesting :) Matma Rex talk 18:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes!! This is super awesome. Thank you so much! I think using this will improve reply-link quite a bit. Enterprisey (talk!) 02:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

EnterpriseyBot does not appear to be updating User:EnterpriseyBot/defcon anymore. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:37, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I pushed a bad code change. Should be fine now. Enterprisey (talk!) 05:10, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I've been going through and trying to clear up the UNDETERMINED lines from my AfD stats, and I have a couple of suggestions for afdstats.py that would've cleared up most of them (and undoubtably also clear up many more discussions I wasn't involved in):

• Change lines 325 and 364 from "speedy delete" to "speedy delet" to correctly parse the phrase "speedy deletion"
• Change the regex in line 348 to "The result (?:of the debate )?was(?:.*?\n?.*?)(?:'{3}?)(.*?)(?:'{3}?)" (or something like that, regexes aren't my strong point) to catch the many pages where there is a carriage return before the bolded decision.

--Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I submitted a pull request on github. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:33, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Great script! Love it. I noticed a strange error here Special:Diff/924005770 (BTW, thank you for diff-permalink as well). The links on the right side diff for Paul H. O'Neill and Mary E. Peters don't seem to work correctly for me. When I click the latter, for example, I am led to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_%3Cins_class%3D%22diffchange_diffchange-inline%22%3EE.%3C/ins%3E_Peters.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:49, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed now. Thanks for the bug report! Enterprisey (talk!) 21:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it is. Thank you! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One more error visible in Special:Diff/925309717. Do Ctrl-F for diffchange-inline"> to find it. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 07:42, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! Fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) 09:16, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Script installer seems to be adding JS: before the name of the user script when installing ([11][12][13][14][15]). – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 07:09, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reporting! I assumed the entire contents of the source parameter in the infobox was the script name. Now it'll just grab the first script link it sees. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:45, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Enterprisey, you appear to have submitted your candidacy after the nominations were closed. Would you like to proceed (to letting the commissioners decide?) — xaosflux ^Talk 00:09, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Xaosflux, yes, I would like to proceed. Enterprisey (talk!) 00:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, follow up discussion opened at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019/Coordination#Possible_disqualification_-_Enterprisey. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The commissioner team has deemed you qualified, but left a caveat if other challenges want to be raised. I doubt that will happen, best regards and good luck with the election. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear, and thanks for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) 02:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		Way to keep me guessing if you were gonna do it or not. What a showman. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, when I said lots of people wait till the last minute, I didn't think this many of them would. I have no clue how this is going to shake out, but best of luck! Beeblebrox (talk) 07:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please fork the FFU part from the AFC script like you did with AFCR? It sucks that I can't review those FFU requests quickly because my username is not listed at the AFC participants list. Masum Reza^📞 16:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Masumrezarock100, as far as I'm aware, there has been no script that is compatible with the current version of FFU for many years. If you can't review requests fast enough because you can't use a script, you need to slow down. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 14:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)(talk page watcher)[reply]

When I used AFCH to review Draft:Canary Connect Inc., it seems that the review notification went to DESiegel, who just helped the new editor submit the article by subst'ing the template, rather than the author of the draft. ([16]). Is it possible the script could be improved so that the notification goes to the author, rather than just someone helping them submit to AfC? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:43, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It was great to meet you last weekend. I'm very impressed with your work, and I'm glad you decided to run for ArbCom. See you at the next event! —Emufarmers^(T/C) (Benjamin) 01:09, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also ping User:Σ. I used [17] (awesome, thanks), but there is one element I find problematic. I often nominate things for deletion, but I am totally fine with merge outcome. Yet the tool treats 'merge' just as 'keep', they are both colored red (for a deletion proposal). From my perspective, this is incorrect. Sometimes nominators, including myself, will even say that merge is one of the alternatives to consider in our nominations. The point is that the current stats suggest that for example AfDs I nominated closed as merge are 'failures' just as those closed as keeps. I'd argue that they should be considered successes, green, or at the very least get their own color and should not be counted together with other groups. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:46, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		Thanks for this enhancement to ! Your enhancement will be leveraged many times over by improved gnome productivity! – wbm1058 (talk) 14:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply link doesn't work on my talk page. Can you fix that please? Interstellarity (talk) 17:12, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI, enabling User:Enterprisey/offset-history-link.js makes the AGF Rollback link from Twinkle fail to work. I liked the effect of the offset-history-link script, but Twinkle is mandatory to my work so I can't use it. Best regards and thanks again for all the work you put into these scripts. --Muhandes (talk) 12:50, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Muhandes, should be fixed now thanks to a great patch from User:Þjarkur. Enterprisey (talk!) 19:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed indeed, thanks, and thanks User:Þjarkur. --Muhandes (talk) 17:59, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Just to follow up from our brief discussion a couple of weeks ago in Boston, regarding interaction between Pet Scan and Cat-a-lot, or rather the lack thereof (in case you're interested in tinkering with it). The problem I'm having can be seen here. I just created the Wikiquote category for Guggenheim Fellows, and Pet Scan will tell me that there are 580 English Wikipedia articles in the same category, which also have corresponding Wikiquote articles. Problem is, to reconcile them, I've got to manually open all 580 Wikiquote articles and add Category:Guggenheim Fellows.

All told, there is probably easily upward of a million edits that need to be performed to reconcile the categorization of the English Wikipedia and the English Wikiquote, which obviously is just impossible to do manually. But if I could use Cat-a-lot, and just highlight all 580 articles in the Pet Scan output, and add categories with semi-automation, it could be done fairly easily. Been asking around for about a year now, and AFAIK, there is no current way to do this. GMG^talk 16:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... and I have you to thank for it.

In delsort, right now the script selects an insertion point in the skin directly (it might reasonably instead be some sort of modal but I don't know how to do that myself :), a point in the skin which not all skins have (cough Timeless cough). Would you mind if you fixed that? I think the preferable way would be to target #contentSub instead of #jump-to-nav, but you could also guard against timeless using an if-else on the skin to insert it in Timeless in the else statement (since we Timeless are few and far between).

Entirely untested, but my button hasn't worked for a year now and I'd like it to. :( --Izno (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Works now, I think. (Sorry for the wait...) Enterprisey (talk!) 00:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

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Hello, thank you for your great BOTREQ status page! I just wanted to let you know that it currently says a task has -1 replies since the original post wasn't signed. Just thought you might like to know! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 13:38, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Enterprisey,

Your scripts User:Enterprisey/sync-template-sandbox.js, User:Enterprisey/orcp-helper.js, User:Enterprisey/draft-sorter.js, User:Enterprisey/easy-brfa.js, User:Enterprisey/falsePositiveHelper.js, User:Enterprisey/req-helper.js, User:Enterprisey/Gadget-DRN-wizard.js and User:Enterprisey/AFCFFU.js are no longer functional because they attempt to get an editToken from mw.user.tokens. The scripts should instead get a csrfToken. editTokens were removed from mw.user.tokens on October 3, 2019 at Phabricator during this edit as they were redundant to csrfTokens.– BrandonXLF (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The scripts User:EnterpriseyBot/reply-dialog.js and User:EnterpriseyBot/delsort-dev.js have the same issue.– BrandonXLF (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Fixed all of them. Enterprisey (talk!) 10:25, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#AfD stats down?. —usernamekiran(talk) 17:25, 29 November 2019 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

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Deskana

Interface administrator changes

Evad37

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• An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
• Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news

• Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

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Hey, Enterprisey. I was going over your dashboard and decided to poach one of your script ideas. You can cross this one off the list:

• A user script so that whenever you click on a "hist" link in a user contribs page, the resulting page history highlights all contributions by that user (also has form on history page to perform such highlighting)

Hope you don't mind. If you're interested, here's the source. Also I suck at names. Regards, GUYWAN ( t · c ) 21:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. When creating the talk pages for created redirects in non-article space, the script does not create the talk page as the script only appends "Talk:" before the requested title (e.g. this would mean "Talk:Template:" which is a bad title). Could you change the JavaScript to handle creating talk pages for non-article space redirects? Thanks for the great tool, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:06, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your note. I'm sure you know these procedures better than I do, and I trust your judgement. I added that report based on this note in WP:RAA:

• An administrator can repair damage made by a malicious user more quickly than other users: if someone is making multiple damaging edits it will be easier for you to report them than try to repair everything yourself.

The vandalism is stale, but seems to have escaped cleanup. Chabala (talk) 07:23, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Looking at my own AfD stats I notice some recent AfDs in which I voted aren't being picked up, e.g.

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Augur (software)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khabzela

Is there something odd about these AfDs (or my vote) which stops them being included? Alexbrn (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7 ☎ 14:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Well, lucky you, you are not going to be an arb next year, but that's a pretty strong showing for a first-time run. Just throwing in takes nerve and I for one am glad you ran. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:33, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, especially on the lucky part Regards SoWhy 10:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

i am able to use if "request desktop site" on my mobile fennec browser. if possible add support for CustomSummaryPresetsLeela52452 (talk) 18:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's an issue with this task. There are redirects that I tagged with {{R from related topic}} in 2017 whose talk pages are still marked as stubs, e.g., Green syndicalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Let me know what I can do to help? (Last discussion, for reference) czar 08:28, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Enterprisey, should I bring this task back to the bot requests board? Between this thread and the last one, it appears that this has been running with issues for a very long time. I just received a flurry of manual edits correcting some of the instances that were waiting for bot edits. If you don't have time to look into/maintain this task, please just let me know so I can find another way to address it. czar 15:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As a side note, I have found that this is too big a task for Python (or, at least, I'm not good enough at handling lots of data in Python). So, I'll be rewriting the bot in Rust shortly, after which it should be back to running regularly. Enterprisey (talk!) 08:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, look at the excuses people have for switching to Rust these days! SD0001 (talk) 15:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A fellow can only get so many TypeErrors before he snaps and rewrites 2500 lines of Python in Rust :)

I have rewritten the task in Rust, and it seems to be running fine on toolforge (using approximately infinity times less memory!). I'll have it do a few articles daily, and then ramp it up later. Enterprisey (talk!) 21:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Czar, the bot has been running for the past couple of days and everything looks fine. Enterprisey (talk!) 23:06, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, how should the bot behave when a project's banner isn't configured to auto-assess? Right now, I've been manually reverting the bot's edits. Enterprisey (talk!) 23:10, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice—looking forward to it ramping up! For context on that last question, is the idea that the task finds redirects and strips the WikiProject banner class as a courtesy but some banners are not equipped to auto-assess? In those cases, I've traditionally considered it better to have no class param than to leave "stub" or whatever was left behind (since the article is no longer a stub but a redirect). But most often those are cases of the WikiProject not handling the "Redirect" class in their banner, not that it has auto-assess off altogether. If indeed it's a matter of specific banners not supporting auto-assessment, I imagine the most complete way to handle is to hard-code "Redirect" as the banner class param, but that strikes me as overkill when simply removing the param is sufficient. czar 03:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Any WikiProject banner that is built around {{WPBannerMeta}} (and there are only four that are not) will, if |class= is blank or absent, auto-assess the talk page of a redirect as Redirect-Class; and if the banner concerned isn't set up for that, will instead use NA-Class. The autodetection is built into {{Class mask}}, as is the conversion to NA where applicable.

Of the four WikiProject banners that aren't built around {{WPBannerMeta}}, only {{WikiProject U.S. Roads}} will behave like a "normal" WikiProject banner (because it also uses {{class mask}}); the other three don't autodetect, and only treat the page as Redirect-Class if fed an explicit |class=redirect, not the shorter forms |class=redir or |class=red that other banners allow.

In summary: for {{WikiProject Anime and manga}}, {{Maths rating}} and {{WikiProject Military history}} (and redirects to those three), set |class=redirect; for any other banner, leave |class= blank or omit it entirely. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redrose64, thank you for the information! What about {{WikiProject Ships}}, which doesn't autoassess despite using WPBannerMeta? Are there any other WPBannerMeta banners that won't auto-assess in this way? Enterprisey (talk!) 20:51, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ooof, I missed that one. Ships uses WPBannerMeta but, for some reason, bypasses the standard {{class mask}} template by using a very non-standard custom class mask, {{WikiProject Ships/class}}, which unlike other custom class masks (such as {{WikiProject Trains/class}}), is not built as a wrapper for {{class mask}}. So {{WikiProject Ships}} will require an explicit |class=red, |class=redir or |class=redirect. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• How often should this bot be cycling through tagged redirects? Would once a month (or more often) be reasonable? I'm still monitoring redirects tagged in 2017 as {{R to list entry}} that have not been scanned by the bot. czar 17:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I created a script (User:Majavah/Unslashifier.js) that was listed on your dashboard. Majavah ^(t/c) 11:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Majavah, looks good, and thanks for making it! Enterprisey (talk!) 07:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enterprisey,

I saw your name listed at WP:BAG as being open to answering queries about bots.

I just made this edit to the carnitine article. The prefixes L- and d- are used as part of chemical naming for enantiomers of amino acids, sugars, and various other compounds. The convention in naming is that they appear as small caps rather than as full size letters, sometimes also in parentheses (ie as (l-proline or d-proline for the amino acid proline). We similarly have the convention of italicising E, Z, R, and S in names like (E)-stilbene or (Z)-Stilbene or for names like (R)-thalidomide and (S)-thalidomide in the thalidomide article. There are also name fragments like fac, mer, cis, and trans that are italicised when stand alone. The letters don't necessarily stand alone – for example, meso-tartaric acid is (2R,3S)-tartaric acid or (2R,3S)-2,3-dihydroxybutanedioic acid.

My questions (as a chemist who knows almost nothing about how to program a bot, although who did do programming 20+ years ago):

1. Would it be possible and practical for a bot to go through article space and change all the L- and D- to {{sm|l}}- and {{sm|d}}- without changing the cases where it is not part of a name (like this mistaken change that I made to a file name), while handling names like acetyl-L-carnitine becoming acetyl-l-carnitine, recognising that a wikilink like [[Glycine propionyl-L-carnitine]] becomes [[Glycine propionyl-L-carnitine|Glycine propionyl-{{sm|L}}-carnitine]], recognising the change in case for the start of a sentence (L-proline ... should be l-Proline ...) and while changing names in references byt not producing the reference errors that I just did?
2. Is there a bot that already does this sort of thing, to your knowledge?
3. If it is practicable, could it be extended to other naming corrections like the ones mentioned above?
4. Is there another editor who I would be advised to ask / speak with?

I can give a list of examples (in cooperation with the Chemistry and / or Chemicals WikiProjects) if that would help, but I thought a general question was best first.

Thanks for your time!

EdChem (talk) 00:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Can you auto include the Specialdiff inside double square brackets so that it is ready to post, so the script should give, [[SpecialDiff FOO|diff]] instead of SpecialDiff FOO
• Can you take a look at User:GoldenRing#Generate_Diffs and update its fork in your user page. It is very helpful and it stopped working for some reasons. I posted on GR's talk but looks like he is not editing nowadays. --DBigXrayᗙ 17:08, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:52, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looking good, Enterprise!!! Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Just came across your great user page. Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Cheers!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just thought I should tell you. Thanks for the great script by the way! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 21:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed by the update I made last month. Thanks for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) 00:19, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a phenomenal script. This should be made default / a gadget. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One thing I note is that this doesn't load reliably. I believe (from an unrelated discussion) that's because

( function () {

should really be

$( function () {

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enterprisey. Notice that in your automated script for DYK co-noms, you have a spacing error - "y contributed,has been nominated". Very useful project however and best. Ceoil (talk) 19:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Enterprisey, I am WikiAviator. Today, I've voted for numerous AfD discussions such as [19]. However, it didn't show up on AfD Stats. I checked the AfD pages and found no problem with spelling and all votes are bolded (i.e. Redirect and Delete) and refreshed the page several times. After about an hour, I force-stopped my browser and loaded the AfDStats webpage again. Nothing worked and only my old votes were shown. May I know what is the problem and would you kindly resolve it or give me some suggestions? This AfD Stats function is very important to me as an indicator of my understanding to deletion guidelines and to let me assess when should I apply for New Page Reviewer and Articles for Creation. Thanks for your help :) . WikiAviator (talk) 07:37, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As a user who has expressed an interest in the Wikipedia:The future of NPP and AfC, you are invited to join a discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Rethinking_draft_space. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:06, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a thought, be lazy like me and let the bots handle the moving/removing/relisting of completed BRFAs; I almost missed your latest approval (and the point about the bot flag) because it wasn't transcluded properly onto the "approved" list. Primefac (talk) 12:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)[reply]

Primefac, thanks, good to know! Does that mean that step #4 ("Does the bot need a flag?") of User:SQL/How to close a BRFA should be removed? Enterprisey (talk!) 04:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it needs to be removed, because the directions do say that #3-4 will be done by the bot. Maybe move that line further down to make it more obvious... Primefac (talk) 14:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Enterprisey! I keep getting this when trying to create a new BRFA with the script. Could you please take a look? Thanks! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 14:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah getting the same error. editToken on line 271 needs to be changed to csrfToken. Best, SD0001 (talk) 10:46, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) 03:47, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you check bots contribs, you'll see nothing in over 24 hours. A stable level 3 vandalism for that long does not seem right. You might want to check on the bot and see if anything brokedown. If nothing, then turn back on vandalism info. {{SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In}}^{PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply}(Talk) 17:39, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed now. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey: I think it was partly fixed. The bot never reported level 2 level of vandalism. I don't know if this is a problem or not. Interstellarity (talk) 13:22, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you pinging this person on their talk page? Yeah, it's almost always on level 5, and stays like that during typical peaks like at 19:00 (UTC). It's not the same like before. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 18:01, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, while I know that you don't use Node.js for your bots, I thought you still might be interested in a new bot framework that I created - mwn. It's mostly written on the MWBot as a foundation with some enhancements copied from mw.Api, some original improvements like automated retries on maxlag and expired token errors, and finally I bundled in my own libApi.js functions for bulk processing tasks. It's intended to cover the limitations of the existing nodejs bot libraries - which have few features and use outdated JS techniques. Your contributions would be very much appreciated! See issues for a list of open tasks if you like. Regards, SD0001 (talk) 20:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You asked "any way to scp files over to toolforge? I tried scp'ing them to login.tools.wmflabs.org but of course that didn't work"

Do you mean to an instance that is not tools.wmflabs? Not certain how you are accessing, but have you glanced at wikitech:Help:Access to Cloud VPS instances with PuTTY and WinSCP which has some configurations that may guide you. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:28, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the thing was I had only tried doing scp during the recent brief Toolforge outage (which would certainly do it!). I tried it recently with login.tools.wmflabs.org and of course it worked fine. Thanks for the helpful link! Enterprisey (talk!) 19:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diff-context is BACKWARDS, yet again: Special:Diff/950867459 Enterprisey (talk!) 08:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Enterprisey,

On non-English wikis it is populating non-English version of site name (for eg. Per [[:ويكيبيديا:ar:Special:Permalink/46130020|وب:تام]] on arwiki). Because of this link breaks. If possible, can all of them have English version of site name or just hard code it to w as most of them are wikipedias. Thanks for your awesome work.‐‐1997kB (talk) 09:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1997kB, should probably be fixed now? Enterprisey (talk!) 22:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, working great. Thanks!‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey again, sorry for not checking carefully. It now get everything in English but sequence is not right. For eg.

Per [[:en:wikipedia:Special:Permalink/951634818|request on enwiki]] (simple) => Per request on enwiki (simple)

but it should be

Per [[:wikipedia:en:Special:Permalink/951634818|request on enwiki]] (simple) => Per request on enwiki (simple)

Now sequence is right but having wikipedia in the link makes it not work correctly, only w works.

Per [[:w:en:Special:Permalink/951634818|request on enwiki]] (simple) => Per request on enwiki (simple)

Also on metawiki it is generating

per [[:meta:meta:Special:Permalink/19993099|request]] => per request

Meta one only needs one m :m:Spe.. but :w:m:Spe.. also works. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 09:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know; fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) 21:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On enwiki I'm getting

Per [[m:wikipedia:en:Special:Permalink/951751033|request on enwiki]] (simple)

and also you removed : from start, without it urls doesn't work on some wikis.‐‐1997kB (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Colon added. Bouncing it through meta is intentional (technique from m:H:IW WP:IW#Technical): even though it doesn't produce links that are as short as possible on enwp, the links will definitely work for every project. Enterprisey (talk!) 03:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

m:H:IW doesn't exist. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, my bad. Fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) 21:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for the fix, it is working great. Also is it possible to make this script work on mobile site? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:04, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We've been having to manually update {{vandalism information}} as of late (the bot is/was inaccurately reporting low RPM when it's actually high at the time, and occasionally it goes hours without updating). As having to go in and manually update it is tedious, I think I speak for many when I say the errors should be fixed ASAP. Kirbanzo ^{(userpage - talk - contribs)} 01:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed; I wasn't checking the edit summaries in a case-insensitive way - that is, the bot would only recognize "undid", not "Undid". Enterprisey (talk!) 22:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks a lot. Kirbanzo ^{(userpage - talk - contribs)} 00:49, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just tried to decline an unblock request and this happened. The script hasn't changed since 2019, but then again I don't know when the last time was I tried to decline an unblock request. Primefac (talk) 02:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is to report a cyberstalking editor, judging fromhis edit history, who reverted all edits on the Motorola 68000 page made by me on the 25th. Zac67 claimed to have changed just "1" of my edits, yet failed to identify which edit of mine was "unhelpful" - let alone why. 205.166.94.16 (talk) 08:04, 28 April 2020 (UTC) another Zac67 victim[reply]

You only made 1 edit to Motorola 68000. Also, this talk page is not the place to air grievances. Primefac (talk) 15:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since there seems to be a lul, you may want to look at edit filter 2 and it logs as well. I'm testing some changes I hope will be harder to circumvent while easier to maintain. — Wug·a·po·des​ 01:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Was that really necessary for User:41.176.246.114? Is there something I'm missing? Ed6767 (talk) 00:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ed6767, nah, it was a bug in the script I'm using. I have fixed the bug and it shouldn't happen again. Good spot, though. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying! Gl with the script. Ed6767 (talk) 01:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I mean this with all due respects, but still, I feel I need to scrutinise your blocks as they seem overly harsh. Somebody getting a 2 week ban for that? Yet vandals get 31hrs, as they should, as the purpose of a block is to prevent disruptive editing when that person hadn't even broken the 3rr yet, nor did they receive proper warnings past a Level 1 good faith. If again, there's something I'm missing please say. You're an admin so can probably see way more about this user than I can. Thanks in advance! Ed6767 (talk) 02:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ed6767, sure, sounds sensible. I discussed this with someone more familiar with various methods of IP-hopping and 31 hours would probably work, so I'll reduce all the blocks to that. I had 2 weeks originally to discourage re-use of IPs for this attack; probably just one week would've worked. Almost all of the IPs had no prior use on here that I could see, otherwise two weeks would've definitely been overboard. Enterprisey (talk!) 02:20, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tysm for clarifying! Sorry if I'm being annoying, I'm still learning all the ins and outs really, I've only been editing mainly for a month. Seeming it's featured, I'll probably propose page protection if it's vandalised again. Again, thanks for clarifying. Ed6767 (talk) 02:23, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Enterprisey, it seems like AfD Stats does not recognise my !vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott E. Langum. Do you know what the issue could be? --MrClog (talk) 15:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So while reviewing drafts in AFCH I discovered a bug that when there is a notice (e.g. There is a comment with 30 characters of more) then none of the buttons work (accept, decline, comment, and the preferences button).

The buttons to "clean up/tag article for review" still work though, and removing the reason for the notice or tagging it as under review get rid of the bug. dibbydib ^boop or _snoop 05:26, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Just to be sure: did you see this? I attempted to ping you at User talk:Enterprisey/reply-link#Translated reply link to portuguese, but maybe Echo didn't work? Helder 20:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, sorry about that! Thank you very much for the patch. I've been a bit busy lately. I will merge the patch and upload a new version shortly. Enterprisey (talk!) 00:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is odd/disturbing that this user came to continue the blanking of that IP talk page after the IP had been blocked and lost talk page access for edit-warring over said talk page. JoshGaming2003 created his account exactly upon the expiration of the block. It almost leads me to wonder if JoshGaming2003 is a sockpuppet of the IP. He is WP:PRECOCIOUS too, with the edit filter requests. Elizium23 (talk) 04:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Enterprisey! I just wanted to give a quick thank you for your help blocking some of those IPs over at Russian battleship Peresvet. I appreciate your help. -- LuK3 (Talk) 00:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thank you for all your help with patrolling the articles! Enterprisey (talk!) 07:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You have done a speedy deletion for User:Disha Gahlot/Sandbox/Dr Sumer Sethi which is quite unreasonable and wrong. The page is intended for a biography and is in no way created to promote anything like you've mentioned in your reason. It has facts and figures from reliable and published sources. Check in detail and properly before taking such extreme actions. Kindly undo, not at all acceptable. I was not done, there were still changes to be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disha Gahlot (talk • contribs) 02:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 May 19. —Cryptic 03:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/186.91.239.228 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.84.105.90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/41.215.173.76 We rarely block IPs for indefinite periods not sure why these IPs are indefinitely blocked and the TFA vandal changes IPs alot so a edit filter would be better then blocking IPs indefinite 17:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.Ayana (talk • contribs) [reply]

Good catch; my mistake. It was a bug in my script, and I just fixed it. I have unblocked the indefinitely blocked IPs. The IPs are blocked in the first place to prevent reuse, which the current vandal has shown will certainly occur otherwise. Enterprisey (talk!) 21:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I not make "obviously retaliatory reports". Is true that this user makes strange edits. Thank you for put attention. --Picklespitlizyr (talk) 18:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since you seemed to take care of this before: [20] (also reported at AIV). Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:05, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Make sure to redact the TFA vandal's edits, since the vandal sometimes reuses the URL's! Randompointofview (talk) 01:12, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch; done. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now I need help dealing with this person on Wikispecies. I'm getting the impression no administrators are monitoring the Administrator's Noticeboard there, and I think I'm the only one undoing the LTA's vandalism. --Randompointofview (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have reached out to some stewards. I don't think repeatedly rolling back the vandal without an edit filter or block to help out is the best allocation of effort. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no.. seems like you have been reported here... I can't imagine how annoying it must get with these persistent people.. Thanks. GreaterPonce665 ^(TALK) 02:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I haven’t been able to get an AfD stats report to run for a couple of days now. Is this a known problem? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 21:16, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aw shucks. Looking into it; no immediately obvious issues. Sure hope we're not at the point where we need a rewrite... Enterprisey (talk!) 01:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It might be the replag, which was through the roof yesterday. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, but I was waiting 10+ minutes for it before giving up. Mccapra (talk) 09:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I just got it to run in about 2 minutes so you may we’ll be right. Mccapra (talk) 09:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yaay! working, thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am getting this error. Is this something on my end or the tool? Traceback (most recent call last): File "/data/project/afdstats/public_html//afdstats.py", line 91, in main db = MySQLdb.connect(db='enwiki_p', host="enwiki.labsdb", read_default_file=os.path.expanduser("~/replica.my.cnf")) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MySQLdb/__init__.py", line 81, in Connect return Connection(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py", line 204, in __init__ super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs2) OperationalError: (1226, "User 's51480' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 10)") None

Fatal error. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 12:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Contributions/104.172.108.167 appears to have been used very recently for the same purposes (they also vandalised the TFA of May 24th). Maybe longer blocks should be in order? Just saying. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As a VPN is clearly being used, blocking that IP for longer would've just caused them to hop to a new one. The fallout is minimized with 31 hours - heck, a shorter period would probably work as well. On the other hand, assuming it's a peer-to-peer VPN, longer blocks might discourage people from participating in the VPN. But those IPs haven't edited too much otherwise, nor is such a strategy likely to be within policy, so 31 hours sounds about right. Enterprisey (talk!) 00:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many VPNs use open proxies that are blocked for long periods of times so it would not be a issue to block them for longer times since their edits need rev deletion and are seriously bad unless there is evidence that the IP is either not a proxy or a closed proxy 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not all VPNs should get the same treatment, so shorter blocks (or an escalating schedule) should be fine in this case. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enterprisey, you are receiving this notice because you are listed as an active Articles for Creation reviewer.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Aasim 10:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your edits to Wikipedia:User scripts/List.

Nice to find a better location for this. Aasim 19:09, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:04, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Several IPs have used tvtropes.org as a source on TFA and there needs to be a filter to prevent posting of tvtropes.org on the TFA pages 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, sorta, due to the potentially high false-positive rate. Enterprisey (talk!) 00:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to accept a Draft article with a really long title.

Any info on what the script expects would me much appreciated.

Tried cutting the title down a little bit.

Error moving Draft:Scientific Research Institute of Healthcare Organization and Medical Management of Moscow Department of Healthcare (NIIOZMM DZM) to Research Institute of Health Organization and Medical Management of the Moscow Department of Health (NIIOZMM DZM): "titleblacklist-forbidden-move"

Draft:Scientific Research Institute of Healthcare Organization and Medical Management of Moscow Department of Healthcare (NIIOZMM DZM)

Thanks RonaldDuncan (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RonaldDuncan: Done. It's a title blacklist thing, so you need to be a template editor or admin. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, hold up. I were so preoccupied with whether or not I could, I didn’t stop to think if I should. Doesn't look like a good title to me. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes @Mdaniels5757: looked up the forbidden titles and I think the (NIIOZMM DZM) should be removed from the end RonaldDuncan (talk) 17:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A better title would be much appreciated RonaldDuncan (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).

Administrator changes

CaptainEek • Creffett • Cwmhiraeth

Anna Frodesiak • Buckshot06 • Ronhjones • SQL

CheckUser changes

SQL

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment asks whether the Unblock Ticket Request System (UTRS) should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
• The Wikimedia Foundation announced that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open local discussion regarding the same.

Arbitration

• A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

Issue

Can't accept drafts.

Tech info

Chrome & Windows. No relevant console logs to speak of (attached anyways). Issue persisted while on Firefox.

Console logs

Some cookies are misusing the recommended “sameSite“ attribute 5
JQMIGRATE: Migrate is installed with logging active, version 3.1.0 load.php:376:171
JQMIGRATE: jQuery(window).on('load'...) called after load event occurred load.php:376:746
This page uses the non standard property “zoom”. Consider using calc() in the relevant property values, or using “transform” along with “transform-origin: 0 0”. load.php:5:729
This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.tipsy". load.php:459:246
This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.ui".
Please use OOUI instead. load.php:465:1009
JQMIGRATE: jQuery.fn.delegate() is deprecated load.php:376:746
Use of "wgPageName" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead. load.php:4:473
This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "mediawiki.ui".
Please use OOUI instead. load.php:1:83
Use of "wgPageName" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead. load.php:4:473

–MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 22:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fancy-diffs will provide a bad link on bare references, eg. "<ref>https://example.com</ref>" will link to "https://example.com</ref>".

Test case:^[1] Special:Diff/962109019

LittlePuppers (talk) 04:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason your bot didn't archive Wikipedia:Goings-on today (I have done it now). Could you look into that? Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 09:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the bot was logged out for some reason. I logged it in about three hours after UTC midnight, but I neglected to run all the tasks that it missed. Sorry about that. Enterprisey (talk!) 21:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The same happened today too. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Same issue. Time to rewrite the task so that it doesn't depend on me logging in, I guess. Sorry again. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This bot edit broke a WikiProject banner. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes! Working on a fix for the bot. Will look into AWB for the fix. Enterprisey (talk!) 23:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bot patched. Time to see how many talk pages I have to fix. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Enterprisey,

I am trying to port your script to tr.wiki as a gadget (due credit to be added), but there is a small issue I would very much like to overcome. What I am trying to do is to add two separate gadgets, one for the actual script and one for a default list of preset summaries, which the user will be able to disable and use their own custom summaries instead on their own common.js file. The issue is, the summary dropdown does show up but without the summaries, unless you add them to your own common.js file. I was wondering if you could suggest a way of solving this.

Vito Genovese 23:33, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How does the Bot determine Operator status? I ask because of this diff "Challenge Bot" (item #6) does not list me as a Bot Operator, yet I operate HasteurBot and Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HasteurBot 15 is approved (along with many other tasks). Hasteur (talk) 17:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hasteur, it checks for Category:Wikipedia bot operators on your user page. Enterprisey (talk!) 22:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Might be nice if you documented that in the pseudo-template. I also think that if the page is being transcluded into WP project space, the "template" really belongs in the template namespace, which also means you should put the task up for a BRFA so that others have an opportunity to scrutinize/document. Hasteur (talk) 22:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now anonymous IPs are adding Scott Alexander’s full name to Talk:Slate Star Codex:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASlate_Star_Codex&type=revision&diff=964502244&oldid=964482884

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASlate_Star_Codex&type=revision&diff=964502386&oldid=964502244

Time to clean up the history again (the name has already been removed by another editor) SkylabField (talk) 00:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like someone else has taken care of it, but thanks for letting me know! Enterprisey (talk!) 05:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Enterprisey,

I hope you're doing well. First, I wanted to say that I love your Links-in-logs user script. It is curious to me that MediaWiki includes built-in permalinks to revisions of pages, but not to specific log entries. When trying to link to a specific log entry, and with Special:Redirect relying on the log ID, it makes it extremely difficult to try and ascertain what the log ID of a specific log action is. Your script does this beautifully and glitch-free. I daresay this might easily be your best user script.

That being said, I'm wondering if you might tweak the functionality a little bit to the way in which it handles the link address cross-wiki and, in particular, on other wikis which often have the Wikimedia projects linked in Special:Interwiki. For example, on the Miraheze wikis, looking at Special:Log for Public Test Wiki, I have the script installed in my global.js file calling your script located on English Wikipedia using the mw.loader.load function. However, when I click on the log entry link with your script installed, it appears as this URL (directly pasted from "copy link address"). I realize I could export and import your script locally there, but I'm trying to avoid that as this makes it simpler for when you push through any updates. I think the issue is with the script calling both wgServer and wgScriptPath when it's called cross-wiki and/or globally. It seems like there should be a fairly easy fix for this and, with only 27 transclusions of this script, little worry of breaking things for (too many) users. Alternatively, if you wanted to fork this script as a sandbox version, I could test it on other wikis and English Wikipedia and let you know.

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dmehus, thanks for letting me know about this issue. I'm not immediately sure what change I need to make to the script - should I be using only one of those two variables, or should I be doing an additional check for the script being called cross-wiki? A sandbox version would probably help. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Enterprisey, Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I initially thought it might be a problem with both those variables being called for and if the solution might be to remove one of them. I know very little, or next to no, JavaScript, so am just going from what I know about HTML/CSS and very basic PHP, so will have to defer to your expertise and judgment. However, while my programming experience is quite limited, I have experience testing and troubleshooting. I have since tried a couple things, to rule out whether it was an issue with my CSS/JS file. First, I noticed my externally loaded scripts included the https:// protocol prefix, but I have seen other users' externally loaded scripts, and a MediaWiki help documentation somewhere, use only // as the prefix, so I first made that change. Second, having recently confirmed five of my user scripts worked in my global.js file on the Miraheze wiki farm, I wanted to test whether it was a local issue on Miraheze, so I migrated those user scripts that I had confirmed were error-free cross-wiki to my global.js file on Meta Wiki (Wikimedia). No problems there, and the logs-in-links worked across Wikimedia.

I'm not sure what you had in mind after checking if the script is being called for cross-wiki, so can't really comment there, but seeing as it seems to work globally on Wikimedia, I tend to think it's a problem with (one of) those variables (I'm much less confident that it is a local Miraheze configuration issue, since I do have those English Wikipedia user scripts being called remotely using the same method). I think an additional check to determine if the script is being called for on a server other than Wikimedia or Wikipedia couldn't hurt. What would be interesting is to try testing this on the Beta Cluster servers, maybe, since that uses a different domain? That way, we could determine if an additional check is required (i.e., if the user is on Wikimedia's production servers and/or beta servers returns as true, then it could use the normal scripting; otherwise, an alternative would be used). Feel free to setup a sandbox version and {{ping}} me with the location to try it out. Dmehus (talk) 09:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imported my Meta Wiki (Wikimedia) global.js file to my Meta Wiki (Beta Cluster) global.js file, and confirmed the same error as on Miraheze's wiki farm. Since there's no problem with both those variables on the production Wikimedia servers, there's probably no harm in leaving that code as is, but it seems to be a problem with the server name being called for twice, essentially, by (one of) those server configuration variables and by the full path name in the user's script file. So, perhaps a check if it's being called for by a non-Wikimedia production server is best, and then it's a matter of taking out one of those variables. My "hunch" says take out wgServer, but again, with my limited JavaScript knowledge, that's really all it is, though it does seem logical. Dmehus (talk) 09:41, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).