User talk:Andy M. Wang

Obvious. But who's the master, I wonder? GAB^Hello! 18:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: I'm honestly unsure. Sock? I wasn't aware of sockpuppetry w.r.t this account. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:10, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, just seemed off to me. GAB^Hello! 18:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Well, I did choose to participate in the AfD. Does seem off though. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 18:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Same here. GAB^Hello! 18:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondering, how are you finding all of these "Opinion polling" socks? It's very impressive, and I am quite interested. GAB^Hello! 00:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: I've been patrolling Special:Log/newusers quite incessantly recently. I just connected the socks to the original "Opinion polling" user about 30 minutes ago. It was about 2 nights ago when I found these obscenely long usernames, and they just started popping up. I think the fact that I spotted these and reverted all his edits exacerbated the problem. I think this most recent attack was definitely planned. This guy has attacked Smalljim, Zzuuzz, Oshwah, etc. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, figures. I've been doing the same. This guy has too much time on his hands. I think I know a much older master, Wikipedia is made798 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Nice work, anyhow. GAB^Hello! 00:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Question. I thought Wikipedia (or at least the English Wikipedia) implemented a user creation policy where you have to specify an email upon registration. I didn't have to do this back in 2005. Has this requirement been removed recently? — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's optional now. Why do you ask? GAB^Hello! 00:35, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We wouldn't have this crazy user creation problem if emails weren't optional. Just trying to think of a solution. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

True. A username filter would be dandy, but that would have too much collateral, probably. Also, I don't think we have them... yet. GAB^Hello! 00:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: followed up again with Special:Diff/715985000 — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 04:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's actually a CBAN proposal up on ANI for this guy, although I think it's sort of unnecessary. It's like the Anhinhhhd (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) case, where the socks are reverted and blocked as generic vandals instead of socks, and so a ban will only go so far. GAB^Hello! 23:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Very interesting, thanks for the note. My opinion from what I know (knowledge of what's possible), the best thing we can do to counter this is to find the socks and block them ASAP, including the ips provided by the proxies. I'm unaware if there's any other way to make a better enforcement. Same goes for the guy who's been spamming the sandbox with obscene images. So yeah, I'd tend to agree that a ban may not serve its purpose. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 23:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 Thank you very much! :) — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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@MSGJ: Understood. I followed up on Template talk:Documentation if that was the one you were referring to. The other change you might be referring to is Special:Diff/717456832, which I made after noting on the talk page and after improved testing. Feel free to revert, but I thought it brought the prod template more in-line with the db-meta template. I apologize if these edits were indeed in need of greater consensus. I promise to refrain from such quick edits from now on. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 15:34, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, both edits were made within an hour of your first talk page announcement. I have no problem with either of these edits, but I would advise caution and generally giving other editors a chance to comment before making changes ;) Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:11, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I intend to subst User:Andy M. Wang/rawsig as my signature. I have read WP:SIG#NoTemplates very carefully and understand the implications of not substituting signatures. As probably known under "Preferences", I am actually unable to keep templates not substituted because the system automatically puts subst in front of it.

I'm requesting template protection (and not making this request in public view) for safety reasons. (edit I posted at WP:RFPP before I realized that the Wikipedia page itself is transcluded on everyone's dashboards, so I reverted.) Although the reason would be ("highly visible template"), I deem that, for a signature template, it meets High-risk.

The reason I'm doing this is to consolidate the appearances of my signature across my various subpages. (I list the transclusions of the page out in full automatically on the page itself.) Please let me know if this is possible. Thanks!

— Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looked at the page Wikipedia:High-risk templates, and this page meets the third point: "It is substituted extremely frequently on an ongoing basis". Thanks. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: pardon my hastiness, or if this cut across a few lines of legislation, but would you able to fulfill this request? — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 00:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I don't think that this page counts as a high-risk template under any reasonable interpretation. The "frequently substituted" clause is intended for things like vandalism warnings and {{Afd}} - things that are used project-wide. You can have things in your userspace semi-protected or fully protected, but I don't think template protection would be appropriate in this case. There is a kludgy way of working around this, though. If you put your signature in a page ending in .js (e.g. User:Andy M. Wang/rawsig.js) then MediaWiki interprets it to be a JavaScript page and only allows you and administrators to edit it, but you are still allowed to put normal wiki markup in it and substitute it. This ability may be removed when the developers get round to cleaning up user .js pages, but for now it works. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: Thanks for the quick reply. Don't know if I want to put it in a .js... feels like too much of a work-around. I'd be okay with full protection for now, actually, and I'd like to request it. (If I change my mind about substituting, I might end up requesting unprotection and submitting the page to WP:CSD#U1, but that's in the future.) — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 01:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually thanks for waiting. I change my mind. — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 01:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]