Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

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• Pharmacy College Saifai (currently a redirect to Faculty of Pharmacy, Uttar Pradesh University of Medical Sciences) → Faculty of Pharmacy, Uttar Pradesh University of Medical Sciences (move · discuss) – Got status change, no longer an standalone college, now part of a University as a Faculty. 14.139.183.119 (talk) 00:10, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Hangzhou–Fuzhou–Shenzhen railway → Hangzhou–Fuzhou–Shenzhen passenger railway (currently a redirect back to Hangzhou–Fuzhou–Shenzhen railway) (move · discuss) – reason for move Trainfanz (talk) 05:17, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• @Trainfanz: This article has been moved nine times in its history, including at least once from the title you're proposing a move to. This should be handled in a full requested move; please also provide the reasoning for the move if you make one. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 07:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Academia Militar das Agulhas Negras (currently a redirect to Military Academy of Agulhas Negras) → Military Academy of Agulhas Negras (move · discuss) – Per WP:ENGLISHTITLE, On the English Wikipedia, article titles are written using the English language. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC) Ckfasdf[reply]

• There's a massive recent spike in English-language ngrams for the non-English title. Later in that policy, there's the quote In deciding whether and how to translate a foreign name into English, follow English-language usage., and WP:NCUE also supports this. The general standard is that if a non-English title is more commonly used, it should be the title of an article. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• @Ckfasdf: Sorry, forgot the courtesy ping. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:11, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Skarmory: It seems "Military Academy of Agulhas Negras" is not the most common English translation, but it's "Agulhas Negras Military Academy". And based on English-language ngrams the trend is somewhat similar to the Non-English title. If we look up further on books that uses non-English title, most of the time the non-English name is mentioned on either Abbreviation section or Reference section of those books. So, I am not entirely convinced that the non-English name is the most common name used in English language. Ckfasdf (talk) 06:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ckfasdf: That's not enough to convince me this is uncontroversial, and that it shouldn't go through a full requested move. (I'm not necessarily opposed to the move as of now; I'd probably want to do some more digging before figuring out where I stand.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 07:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Law applicable to divorce and legal separation regulation → Rome III Regulation (currently a redirect back to Law applicable to divorce and legal separation regulation) (move · discuss) – To unify the name with Rome I Regulation and Rome II Regulation. Human. (talk) 23:45, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• @Human.: This article has been moved three times, including once in October 2022 (albeit, the moving user has been blocked from mainspace since for making undiscussed changes without discussion), and this is not a previous title of the article. I think that's enough basis for this to go through RM instead of being moved unilaterally. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• I wouldn't support the proposed name, I think a descriptive one is better, but I also do think it should have European Union in the title as it's not clear what it refers to currently.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Restoration ecology (currently a redirect to Ecological restoration) → Ecological restoration (move · discuss) – Ecological restoration (practice) and restoration ecology (academic study) are closely interwoven. Given the global attention on ecological restoration as an action to reverse biodviersity loss and mitigate against climate change, this article would be much more useful (and possibly more "discoverable") if the central framing was on ecological restoration as a practice, with sections on the study of restoration ecology and how it supports the practice. On the current talk page there has been no oppposition to the proposed move. TatjanaClimate (talk) 11:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @TatjanaClimate: The contents of the destination were previously merged into the current article. This is a WP:PCM. If you wish to continue with your request, click the discuss link in your request to begin a formal WP:RM discussion. Once you've done that, or if you do not wish to continue, please remove your request. Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• PP-19 Vityaz (currently a redirect to PP-19-01 Vityaz) → PP-19-01 Vityaz (move · discuss) – Misspelled: Fixed tittle name. PP-19 refers to the PP-19 Bizon. For further reference (https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/Security%20systems/Counterterrorist%20assets/Submachine%20guns/Vityaz-SN/) JTC22 (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  An RM from, granted a few years ago, the talk page appears to have consensus against PP-19-01 Vityaz. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 06:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The arguments made are irrelevant due to lack of information regarding the rifle during that time. If you do a quick search, the "Vityaz" is the PP-19-01 variant. However the name (PP-19) refers to the Bizon.

  Furthermore, the one who insisted to rename the page to Vityaz-SN based his whole argument on the Vityaz-SN (version 20) variant. But the article's scope is not merely about that variant specifically. It's the entirety of that submachine gun line. Which stems from the PP-19-01 "Vityaz".

  According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms#Variants, "Variants of a model of a firearm such as folding/telescoping stock variants, target versions, variants chambered in a new caliber, compact/carbine variants, models covered by the same factory-issued users manual generally should not receive their own article. Instead, use a section for the variant in the parent firearm's article or consolidate it into a table or the text."

  The parent firearm to the Vityaz-SN is the PP-19-01 "Vityaz". JTC22 (talk) 21:46, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  A previous RM (especially one that settled on consensus against the proposed title) means this is a contested technical request and that it must go through a full requested move. Feel free to start one using the discuss link above. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 03:19, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Chief of Naval Staff (Pakistan) (currently a redirect to Chief of the Naval Staff (Pakistan)) → Chief of the Naval Staff (Pakistan) (move · discuss) – full official name[1] inline with Vice Chief of the Naval Staff, Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff, Assistant Chief of the Naval Staff 223.123.88.252 (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Chief of Air Staff (Pakistan) (currently a redirect to Chief of the Air Staff (Pakistan)) → Chief of the Air Staff (Pakistan) (move · discuss) – full official name[2] inline with Vice Chief of the Air Staff, Deputy Chief of the Air Staff 223.123.88.252 (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Both of these fail WP:COMMONNAME. This is a WP:PCM. If you wish to continue with your request, click the discuss link in your request to begin a formal WP:RM discussion. Once you've done that, or if you do not wish to continue, please remove your request. Thanks! As you are an IP user, this request will be removed in 1 day. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG: i don't think Common Name criteria applies here, Please see Chief of the Air Staff 14 out of 10 contains official name with(the) in titles, and also Pakistan Navy's & Air Force's Second, Third, and Fourth level command posts alredy contains full name with(the) in titles. 223.123.88.183 (talk) 03:47, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

COMMONNAME should always be considered, and if a request fails to be the common name, it should usually go through a full requested move. It's possible the other articles sren't following COMMONNAME, or consistency could be deemed to be less important than what the most common name is – there's a lot of nuances involved. These moves could also get consensus, just there is basis to oppose, which means it's not uncontroversial. A full requested move may be started using the discuss link above. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Punjab Sports University → Maharaja Bhupinder Singh Punjab Sports University (currently a redirect back to Punjab Sports University) (move · discuss) – Popular and official name. If you Google "Maharaja Bhupinder Singh Punjab Sports University", it will bring you "About 78,400 results" 14.139.183.119 (talk) 00:10, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  This move has already been formally proposed in a requested move twice (see the article's talk page). If you think circumstances have changed since the previous RMs in 2019 (please read them to see why they failed), you can open another one by clicking the "discuss" link in your request. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]