Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Doctor Who serials and episodes/archive1
Doctor Who serials and episodes
I've been working on several Doctor Who serial pages for quite some time, and my aim was to get a featured topic out of them (DWME was already a FA). With the redirection of the "list of titled" and "list of incomplete" episodes, for matters of redundancy, and the creation of series summary pages, the number of articles and lists to get to the FT has gone down to three. Now, I've got two problems: one, the titling: as DWME isn't a list, it can't be a "lists of", but it can't be simply "Doctor Who serials and episodes" (which I've nommed it as), because that would mean all two-hundred-odd pages being listed. The second is the series summary pages. I think that they shouldn't affect this nomination, because LODWS is the lead article, and DWME and LOUDWSAF are in different formats to the series pages, but it may appear to be cherry picking (when I'm not). Thanks, Sceptre (talk) 16:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Credit to User:Percy Snoodle for the list of unmade serials, User:khaosworks and User:Josiah Rowe for the missing episodes article, and to the entire Doctor Who WikiProject for maintaining the main list. Sceptre (talk) 16:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Question about scope Per Wikipedia:Featured topics/Seasons of 30 Rock, Wikipedia:Featured topics/Seasons of Degrassi: The Next Generation and Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Seasons of Lost (and a bunch more), shouldn't all actual DW serial pages be included in this nom as well? I know there are technically no "gaps" (WP:FT?#1d), but this FTC still has some cherry-picky-ish about it. (No disrespect intended.) – sgeureka t•c 17:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- As I said (actually, I didn't make it clear) in the nomination: this was originally going to be a "Lists of" topic, but merging the list of incomplete episodes into the DWME article has kinda made it weird and I'm unable to think of a title... Sceptre (talk) 18:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Can you summarize the quality status of the various Doctor Who (series XYZ) articles/lists? Does the DW WikiProject intend to create "season" lists for the early DW years (and would that make sense in the first place)? I know DW is in a unique position with its broadcast history and longevity, but seeing how much work has gone into e.g. Wikipedia:Featured topics/Seasons of Degrassi: The Next Generation (even if it's just composed of FLs), I somewhat feel the same is necessary for a DW serial FT. – sgeureka t•c 19:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not taking Series 4 to FLC until after the Christmas special, and Series 2 and 3 need quite some work. Sceptre (talk) 21:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- As for the 26 seasons of classic Doctor Who (1963–1989), I'm not aware of any plans to make articles for them. (For peculiar historical reasons having to do with the history of Doctor Who fandom and a programme guide written in the 1980s by Jean-Marc Lofficier, each year of classic Doctor Who is usually called a "season" instead of a "series", even though "series" is common UK usage and "season" is an Americanism... really, it's not worth going into, although the usage does help distinguish, say, Season 2 (1964–65) from Series 2 (2006). God, I'm a hopeless nerd.) At the moment, the only classic season that has its own article is The Trial of a Time Lord, aka Doctor Who (season 23). Does the absence of these articles affect how this proposed FT is perceived? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not taking Series 4 to FLC until after the Christmas special, and Series 2 and 3 need quite some work. Sceptre (talk) 21:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Can you summarize the quality status of the various Doctor Who (series XYZ) articles/lists? Does the DW WikiProject intend to create "season" lists for the early DW years (and would that make sense in the first place)? I know DW is in a unique position with its broadcast history and longevity, but seeing how much work has gone into e.g. Wikipedia:Featured topics/Seasons of Degrassi: The Next Generation (even if it's just composed of FLs), I somewhat feel the same is necessary for a DW serial FT. – sgeureka t•c 19:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- As I said (actually, I didn't make it clear) in the nomination: this was originally going to be a "Lists of" topic, but merging the list of incomplete episodes into the DWME article has kinda made it weird and I'm unable to think of a title... Sceptre (talk) 18:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - I'm sorry but I do think you need to include, shall we say, "another layer" of articles. This can either be all the serials for pre-21st century and all the series articles for the new stuff, or alternatively you could make season articles for all the pre-21st century stuff, and then include them along with the series articles. I realise that this is a LOT of extra work, but unfortunately, not all topics are as easy to get to FT as each other. On top of this, an additional minor quibble: it appears some of the information in the table here may have been lost in the merge to Doctor Who missing episodes - rst20xx (talk) 14:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- Close with no consensus to promote - rst20xx (talk) 21:03, 12 December 2008 (UTC)