Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of European Union member states by accession

Inspired by list of U.S. states by date of statehood, but much more difficult to assemble (you wouldn't believe how little information about the application dates of the first dozen there is on the internet). I tried to keep the futurology to a minimum, but included ongoing processes. Self-nomination. —Nightstallion (?) 10:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Great - but there is a bit of overlap with European Union member states! -- ALoan (Talk) 19:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  "My" article is better referenced and has more detailed dates; the other one can be merged into it later. has been merged into it now, although I left out some of the futurology (we've got enough of that at Enlargement of the European Union). =] —Nightstallion (?) 21:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - you have done (almost all of) what I wanted to do with European Union member states and better. Query whether the page titles should be swapped, although yours really is more of a list than an article on the member states. Well done. One quibble - the colours in the second table are a bit "in your face" - could you swap for some more pastel tones? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Somebody else tried to do that, and then some people complained that it didn't show up correctly in IE -- which is, I'm afraid, true. I haven't found out yet why this problem occurs (you can check for yourself by looking at this version with IE), but have filed a question regarding this issue (among others) at the help desk. —Nightstallion (?) 12:31, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh, and: What did you want to add? ("you have done (almost all of) what I wanted to do") I'd be happy to implement your ideas. ^_^ —Nightstallion (?) 12:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh, I wanted to include the futurology and debate about possible candidates, and more discussion about the details of other candidates who did not join (such as Norway). Yours has the bare bones, and is probably better as a summary of the hard facts, but does not have (and is not really designed to include) a discussion in more cursive prose. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Mh, I think futurology and in-detail discussion of unsuccessful application rather belongs to Enlargement of the European Union, doesn't it? And have you taken a look at the IE problem? I'm rather clueless about what to do with that... —Nightstallion (?) 13:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, as I said, it doesn't belong in the article as you have done it :) Re colours: pass, but the discussion on the colour scheme for {{hiero}} may help - IIRC, it uses names for the colours rather than 6-digit hex numbers. See Template_talk:Hiero. -- ALoan (Talk) 13:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Ka-bling! Great, those were exactly the colours I needed. —Nightstallion (?) 13:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - saw it before and thought, why isn't it nominated? Some suggestions: I think animation Image:Enlargement Of The European Union.gif could be used. What's TBC? Why not TBD? Great work overall. Renata 06:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Mh, I personally don't like the gif (map quality issues)... TBC = to be confirmed, which is not the same as to be determined. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 08:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 13:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Rmhermen 22:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC) I wonder about East Germany not being included on the second list, though.[reply]

  East Germany never applied to join, so it's not in the list sorted by application date. —Nightstallion (?) 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good point. You also need to be careful about the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and Gibraltar, all of which are "in" or "not in" the EU to a different extent (IIRC, the Channel Islands are not in the EU at all; the Isle of Man is not in the EU but has a VAT system almost identical to the UK and is in the Customs Union, and so enjoys free movement of goods in the EEA, but not free movement of services, workers, and capital; and Gibraltar is a member of the EU, but exempt from some areas such as the Customs Union and Common Agricultural Policy). I'm sure the overseas territories of other nations are in a similarly complex position. -- ALoan (Talk) 22:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    No, it's quite clear in this regard: The only British overseas territory or crown colony which is "in" the EU is Gibraltar. The others are only associated territories. —Nightstallion (?) 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Support; well laid out, detailed. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 09:15, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. This is a very clear list, well sourced and thoroughly informative. Now, for my one quibble. The map shows Norway and Morocco in red with the label application failed. I wonder if a different wording could be found because I think Norway's application didn't fail but got rejected in a referendum. Perhaps it would be better if we had two differenet colours for Norway and Morocco. Stefán Ingi 10:04, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, my rationale was "applied for membership, but did not join and will have to reapply before joining". How would you formulate it? "Application rejected by the European Council" and "Accession rejected in referendum"? —Nightstallion (?) 11:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Hmm, yes. Rejected by the EC and Rejected in referendum sound good to me. Stefán Ingi 11:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Ka-bling! Done. =] —Nightstallion (?) 12:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. This article clearly documents information about an otherwise very confusing subject, and it meets the standards of featured status. --TantalumTelluride 06:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • And it was promoted yesterday! -- ALoan (Talk) 10:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, promote it again! --TantalumTelluride 16:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yay, my first featured list and already people are asking for to become twice-featured. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 06:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]