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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Giants2008 16:22, 11 December 2011 [1].

Works of Rambhadracharya

Nominator(s): ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 17:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because its pass the WP:FL?, i have done some work on the list and i think it passes all policies and also the WP:MOS. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 17:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:
- Currently the list does not tell about anything the subject of each of the books/poems. Something similar to "summary" in William Shakespeare bibliography needs to be added.
- "Literary awards and honors" is a little out of place. Awards for specific books like Sahitya Akademi needs to be some "Notes" section near the specific book. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 06:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All of the above suggestions are done. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 09:08, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Summary breaks the sorting somehow. Please fix it. May be make summary a column. Also merge Title and Original title columns under Title. Show Devanagari in brackets (). --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:40, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Remove language from Summary. Repetition. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Title and Original title throughout: consistency. Utsāha is missing summary. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1 more issue is the name. It should be consistent with parent article, currently Rambhadracharya. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:04, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All issues fixed. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 12:58, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason why Poems has a different but almost overlapping main article Poems by Jagadguru Rambhadracharya? I suggest a merge. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only the "Compositions" section is a addition, i am not sure whether i should add it or not. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 16:55, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Critical edition of Ramcharitmanas mentioned in the text? Is it same as Bhāvārthabodhinī , then say so clearly.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:23, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was a commentary, where the "Critical edition of Ramcharitmanas" was a complete Ramcharitmanas with some differences in text made by Rambhadracharya. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 14:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So please mention the critical edition in the "Prose" section. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 15:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 13:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing year, publisher and language (often critical edition also have some commentary). --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:36, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The commentary was Bhāvārthabodhinī, and since it was a edition of the ramcharitramanas, so its common sense it would be in Awadhi. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 10:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added publisher and year, there is no subject, its an edition. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 06:09, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support assumption of comprehensiveness, my comments are resolved. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 07:40, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

~~A one-paragraph lead is rather small for an FL. I'd expect to see a lead at least twice the size it is now.~~
~~Bold links are discouraged in the MoS. Not even sure any of the bolding in the lead is necessary at all.~~
~~Minor poems: The titles have a sorting issue; the 1996 poem is sorting last instead of first. The diacritics at the start is probably responsible. You may need to use a sort template to fix this.~~
~~The same is true for Poems of one hundred verses,~~ and the first table in the Prose section.
~~Also in the Poems of one hundred verses table, some form of dashes should be used in the Publisher column instead of hyphens.~~
~~Hymn sung at dawn: Note says "With a with Hindi translation by the poet." One "with" too many in there.~~
~~Play: The year column here could also use a dash to replace a hyphen.~~
~~Hindi commentaries: One row each in the Year and Publisher columns needs dashes.~~
~~Critiques: A dash is needed for one row in the Publisher column.~~
~~Discourses: Title column could use sort templates here as well, as diacritics are again throwing off the sorting.~~ Same for Audio and video.
~~See also: Here as well, the hyphens should be dashes. In this case, they should be en dashes (the smaller of the two types on your editing screen.~~
~~The publisher in references 10 and 11 should be italicized, since they are from a printed publication (The Hindu).~~ Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 12:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- ~~Adding some more things I discovered while checking the changes. First, the "He is a spontaneous poet" sentence cuts out abruptly, seemingly missing a good deal of what was intended to be there.~~
- An excess period after reference 10 needs removal.
  - The ref should go after the period, not before. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but i didn't got your point. Can you explain it. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 09:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- - - When placing citations, they shouldn't be placed right before a comma or period, but after. The issue has been fixed now, so there's no problem here. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "However the dispute was subsided hen Rambhadracharya regretted over any annoyance or pain caused by the publication of Tulsi Peeth edition. ~~To start, "hen" should be "when".~~ I'd also remove "was", changed "regretted" to "expressed regret" or something similar, and add "the" before Tulsi Peeth edition.Done Changed the sentence. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 09:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~The publisher of the current reference 10 (The Times of India) could use italics just like the two newspapers from that earlier batch of comments.~~ Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 05:11, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- - ~~One more to add to the ones left from the earlier batches: in "A writ petition was also filled against him but it was dismissed", I believe "filled" should be "filed".~~ Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 07:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There were still several things that weren't resolved the last time I looked (check for any unstruck areas up there). Have these been sorted? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:15, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only things I see left from the comments I capped are sorting issues in the title column of the first table in the Prose section. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC) Done ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 13:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Infobox image caption does not need a full stop. Done
Why was the list renamed to just the "surname"?
Comment: Jagadguru is a honorific, not the first name. As a result of a move request, the parent article was moved to "Rambhadracharya", to keep it consistent, this article was also moved as the same.
Don't see why you would left-justify most of the table headings. Done
Sortable tables need linked items to be linked every time.
Done I think only Jagadguru Rambhadracharya Handicapped University is needed to be linked.
Would prefer to see tables with the same columns have the same column widths from table to table.
Done Set it to 625.
Look at MOS:DTT to ensure you tables are accessible, i.e. using col and row scopes.
Since the article has to be kept in accordance to the MOS:WORKS, the "year" has to be kept first, so i can't add the row, however columns are Done.
"who is held captive by Ravana in Lanka via a bumblebee." help captive ... via ... something? Do you mean "by" a bumblebee?
Done Changed the sentence formation.
Check that ‡ is able to be read out loud by screen readers. If in doubt, change it for something like {{double-dagger}}. Done
One table has a key for "undated" but others with undated works don't. Done

"A nine–day discourse" vs "The nine–day discourse " ... be consistent, it's best to be "A ..." Done
Why is audio/video included in a bibliography?
Since the article is meant for the works of Rambhadracharya, i also added his audio works, however "discography" would had been more better, but since there is no much content for a stand alone article, i included it in this list.
IMO, the article should be renamed "Works of Rambhadracharya", based on the original "Works of Jagadguru Rambhadracharya". --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 05:15, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure how useful the timeline is. In any case, "Works" should be "works".
Done All the works are listed in chronological order by default, an timeline acts like a chronological list for all types of works.
It looks like ref 21 says 600 years, the text says 500 years...
Done Changed the text.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:54, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your valuable suggestions and comments. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 12:12, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Not sure why the tables are being forced to 625px width, why not just let them suit my browser? Comment It does suit my browser (Google chrome), is there any width which suits all browsers?
- More about everyone else's browser (e.g. IE etc) not just yours. Don't force the width. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of use of <center> which is quite unnecessary in my opinion. Comment Its just to keep the content in line with the column heading.
- No need. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(Minor poems), (Lyrical poems) etc. Is there a reason why the Minor and Lyrical etc are capitalised? Why are they being treated as proper nouns? Done
"Chandrashekhar Azad" points to "Chandrasehkhar Azad", is this a typo here? Not done"Chandrashekhar Azad" is the right spelling.
- So we need to fix our own article? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Some summaries have diacritics, most don't, but include words which should have them. Be consistent throughout. Doing
Would prefer to see column widths for the same columns be the same from table to table i.e. all "summary" columns should have the same width. Not done Tried my level best but its not working.
- See other FLs for help here with the coding on forcing col widths. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have tried it but the column widths are not changing, see this. any idea to fix it? ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 16:04, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The keys don't need full stops (e.g. "Undated." should just be "Undated") Done
Check all linkable content is linked every time in the Audio and video section (e.g. Bhajans).Done
Don't think the timeline really adds anything to this article.Removed
No need to explain that "Adi Shankara bibliography " is "Bibliography of Adi Shankara" in the See also links, remove both "explanations" as superfluous.Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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