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I have taken a stab at providing a new lede to accurately summarise the article. Since the old lede was actually a detailed overview of the entire event, and is relevant for the rest of the article, I've moved that down into a new "Overview" section. The last paragraph of the old lede has stayed in the new lede since it effectively summarises the "Reactions" section.

Obviously, this is a bold edit, but I believe it keeps what works about the old lede while addressing the issue of providing a brief summary of the whole article at the start. Feel free to edit/tweak, as necessary, or to use it as a basis for further discussion here. It may be that more info is needed on the outcomes for the officers involved, for example, though I think that should probably be kept to a single paragraph to keep it brief. Lewisguile (talk) 08:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like it. I don't think you should be presenting facts in the lede if they are contested by the defense. Did you read the whole article? Walker's team challenges that warning shot actually hit Mattingly. The language "mistaking the police for intruders" is dubious apologetics. The defense claims the police battered in the door without announcing themselves. If that's true, they were in fact intruders operating outside of the law. Not to mention the crime involved in acquiring the warrant to begin with. I think you should rewrite it, removing the cop apologetics. Something like this:

Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker fired a warning shot possibly striking officer Jonathan Mattingly. Mattingly and two other LMPD officers—Brett Hankison and Myles Cosgrove returned fire.

I don't see why the fatal shot is relevant. We don't have a lot of information about the potential survive-ability of the remaining 4 shots. trysten (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IDONTLIKEIT is generally an argument we avoid. Most RSes say there was only one bullet matching the one shot by Walker, and that was the one that hit Mattingly.

Wikipedia reflects RSes rather than opinion, so the defence's case doesn't hold any more weight than the prosecution's until the facts are determined at trial. Moreover, I think the lede reflects the rest of the article.

We've had consensus on this page for a month now, with other editors tweaking the existing lede rather than replacing it. That means that, until we see otherwise, there's currently consensus for the text as it currently stands. Lewisguile (talk) 08:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://thepostmillennial.com/breonna-taylors-boyfriend-found-responsible-for-her-death-as-judge-dismisses-major-felony-charges-against-former-louisville-cops?utm_campaign=64501 2607:9E80:1109:3AD0:5D5F:824E:773C:2853 (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done. Covered in the article already. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 19:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

8/24/2024 Breonna Taylor's death was from her boyfriend. Charges against the police falsely charged before the facts came out have been dropped. 2603:6080:D800:4E68:B95D:679:38F5:4239 (talk) 19:21, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done. Covered in the article already, with language that reflects sources, not personal opinions. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 19:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone for your good work on the article related to recent events. However, while reading the additions/updates, I was reminded this article could use additional "editor scissors" to address WP:SUMMARY, WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOTNEWS. There is WP:NODEADLINE, though. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 20:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]