Talk:List of Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign endorsements

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I'm unfamiliar with the process, but should we change this page from primary to a General election endorsement page? I don't see a reason to have both separately.

If so, what all would need to be changed on this page to accomplish that change? Tipsyfishing (talk) 16:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We would just need to move the page I'm pretty sure and change a few things. But there's tons of precedent for keeping them separate. ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 21:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I would agree in other situations (akin to the 2020 primary). In this situation I just do not see a valid reason to do so. There are virtually no "only for the primary" endorsements that Biden received.

Just don't want to have two pages with virtually the same information without a valid reason. The Trump endorsement page changed from primary to general. So see no reason for Biden's to not be the same. Tipsyfishing (talk) 00:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that just moving it would be the right way to go. If there are any primary-specific endorsements, these can be indicated with a footnote within the page itself instead of creating a separate one. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 15:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be disagreement on how to display endorsers that subsequently call on Biden to drop out.

Since this page is focused on primary endorsements, it is inaccurate to keep endorsements from individuals that have publicly called on him to drop out. Even if they are clear about their intentions to support "whoever the nominee may be," it is false to claim that they are supporting Joe Biden to be the nominee and this page should reflect that. George Clooney authoring an op-ed calling for a "new nominee" and listing other potential candidates is clearly not someone that is endorsing Biden, for example.

Instead of removing them, it seems best to reflect these individuals be striking through their names with an explanation, as are rescinded and rejected endorsements. Using George Clooney as an example:

• George Clooney, actor and filmmaker (called on Biden to withdraw)

If you have an argument for why those calling on him to drop out should remain as endorsers to his primary campaign, please explain. Biznaga22 (talk) 06:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support OP's proposed solution. ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 17:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all,

I am going through section by section reviewing sources to ensure they are reliable. I have left invisible notes for endorsers that I could not find reliable sources for. So far, I have reviewed the "Federal executive officials" and "U.S. Senators" sections. If anyone would like to help, please consult Wikipedia:Political endorsements to ensure that we only include qualified endorsements based on reliable sources. Hopefully we can remove the reliable source template once all sections are reviewed.

Thanks! Biznaga22 (talk) 05:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can simply leave a 'better source needed' flag as well. I will start at the bottom and work my way up. Would be great to remove that flag or move it to a single section Superb Owl (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Superb Owl

Just to avoid starting an edit war, I felt it would be best to discuss this here.

I understand your desire for a hatnote, but I still don't think this article needs one. Per WP:HATNOTERULES, a hatnote should only be placed "if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." I find it unlikely, however, that any reader would end up at a page for 'List of Biden endorsements' if they were actually looking for a list of Harris endorsements.

Regards, Loytra (talk) 15:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the Kamala endorsements also aren't widely linked yet on Wikipedia, I imagine a number of people ending up here and then wanting to quickly find the Kamala endorsements. Not everyone uses search to navigate. At some point, perhaps, it is worth removing but not yet. Superb Owl (talk) 15:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The solution is to link the Harris article more widely, not to place an unneeded hatnote here. If readers want to find a list of endorsements for Harris, there's no reason why they would end up on this page. Loytra (talk) 15:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]