Talk:Saint Joseph
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I think it is wrong to call Joseph "a New Testament figure". Since all scholars agree that Jesus existed historically, he clearly had a father (independently of religious beliefs about the Virgin birth of Jesus) and scholars usually accept that his father was indeed named Joseph (Yosef was a common name in 1st century Galilee). So I suggest we edit this page in stating that he was "a 1st century man of Nazareth" similarly to the page of Mary, mother of Jesus.-Karma1998 (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Relics of Saint Joseph
As said in the version comment: It is unclear what this is supposed to tell the reader. Furthermore, it is also illogical: if applies to Mary and St. John as well, Joseph cannot be "the only Saint". Furthermore, there is more than one kind of relic (see for second or third class relics). As I could see from at least one of your sources: the source only says, that there seem to be no bones etc, however, your wording is "not claimed by anyone..." Medusahead (talk) 09:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Wrong lineage
@Medusahead: What you have commented out has been pointed by Jewish scholars who oppose Christianity. But Christian apologists found a way around that. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. However, in any case there should be a possibility to point out who said (claims?) that, as it begins "Christians point to Joseph's lineage…". --Medusahead (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Legal father
@IP: Christian law and Islamic law did not exist yet. So, Joseph could not be not the father of Jesus according to their laws.
Joseph could not say "I choose to obey Islamic law", since there was no such law at that time.
Joseph was the legal father of Jesus in history. That is independent of religious tradition. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Legal father of Jesus as a title
[1] Randy, as I think it was me who took that out: I wondered why this is listed as a title? Of course, "legal father of Jesus" is a way to describe Saint Joseph but in my opinion it is not a title. Maybe one should shorten this list of titles anyway – the missal only lists "spouse of the mother of God". Patron of the Universal Church seems to be another title officially used. Medusahead (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- The section is not only for religious titles but for descriptors, and 'legal father of Jesus' has been in the infobox for years. The infobox already contains 'Guardian of the Holy Family' which covers 'Guardian of Jesus'. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)