Talk:Clássico Mineiro
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Impartiality
Impartiality is needed here. Before I edited it, only the largest rout of Atlético (and a very old one at that, from 1927) was mentioned. The largest rout of Cruzeiro, that of 6x1 over Atlético in 2011 should be placed, so as for the article to remain neutral.
Besides, a single poll showing Atlético ahead of Cruzeiro was selected, when all other polls, including that of Datafolha, the most serious poll institute in Brazil, from 2014, was not mentioned.189.61.16.215 (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
A very cheap tactic to select the only poll where they come ahead, and even then slightly. All the polls, I repeat all the polls but that which was selected to be in the article show Cruzeiro ahead of Atlético. Just a few examples below. Furthermore, in 1998 Cruzeiro beat Atlético by 5x1, in 2008 5x0, in 2009 5x0 and in 2011 by 6x1. So Cruzeiro has been having routs in the recent times, whereas the only rout mentioned, and in the detail is one from 1927.
Examples of the partiality
A 2014 poll by Datafolha (http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/esporte/2014/08/1494430-um-em-cada-tres-torce-para-flamengo-ou-corinthians-aponta-datafolha.shtml):
Pos. | Clube | Torcida (%) | Torcida (numericamente) |
---|---|---|---|
1º | ![]() |
18% | 36.475.167 |
2º | ![]() |
14% | 28.369.574 |
3º | ![]() |
8% | 16.211.185 |
4º | ![]() |
6% | 12.158.389 |
5º | ![]() |
5% | 10.131.991 |
6º | ![]() |
4% | 8.105.592 |
7º | ![]() |
3% | 6.079.194 |
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3% | 6.079.194 | |
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3% | 6.079.194 | |
10º | ![]() |
2% | 4.052.796 |
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2% | 4.052.796 | |
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2% | 4.052.796 | |
13º | ![]() |
1% | 2.026.398 |
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1% | 2.026.398 | |
15º | ![]() |
1%(**) | (Q)2.026.398 |
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1%(**) | (Q)2.026.398 |
- Margem de erro de 2,0 p.p.
(**) Não atingiu 1% exato (Q) Quase
A 2012 poll by Datafolha (http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/noticia/2012/12/com-dados-exatos-fla-bate-timao-e-flu-supera-facil-lusa-em-pesquisa.html):
Pos. | Clube | Torcida |
---|---|---|
1º | ![]() |
16,27% |
2º | ![]() |
15,56% |
3º | ![]() |
8,77% |
4º | ![]() |
6,77% |
5º | ![]() |
4,57% |
6º | ![]() |
4,10% |
7º | ![]() |
3,24% |
8º | ![]() |
2,94% |
9º | ![]() |
2,04% |
10º | ![]() |
1,88% |
11º | ![]() |
1,53% |
12º | ![]() |
1,46% |
13º | ![]() |
1,18% |
14º | ![]() |
1,11% |
15º | ![]() |
0,51% |
Outros | 5% | |
Nenhum | 23% |
- Margem de erro de 2 p.p.
A 2014 poll by Datascript (http://oglobo.globo.com/esportes/rmp/posts/2014/08/24/a-voz-do-torcedor-546990.asp ):
Pos. | Clube | Torcida (%) | Torcida (numericamente) |
---|---|---|---|
1º | ![]() |
18,1% | 36.386.921 |
2º | ![]() |
14,5% | 29.149.743 |
3º | ![]() |
8,2% | 16.484.582 |
4º | ![]() |
5,8% | 11.659.897 |
5º | ![]() |
4,8% | 9.649.570 |
6º | ![]() |
3,8% | 7.639.243 |
7º | ![]() |
3,6% | 7.237.177 |
8º | ![]() |
3,0% | 6.030.981 |
9º | ![]() |
2,9% | 5.829.948 |
10º | ![]() |
2,6% | 5.226.850 |
11º | ![]() |
1,8% | 3.618.588 |
12º | ![]() |
1,7% | 3.417.556 |
- Margem de erro não divulgada
A 2013 poll by Paraná pesquisas: http://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.infografiaepoca.com.br/siteEpoca/FTP/812/Nacional_TorcidasdeFutebol_Dez13.pdf
Pos. | Clube | Torcida |
---|---|---|
1º | ![]() |
15,95% |
2º | ![]() |
13,75% |
3º | ![]() |
7,86% |
4º | ![]() |
5,57% |
5º | ![]() |
4,46% |
6º | ![]() |
4,16% |
7º | ![]() |
3,34% |
8º | ![]() |
3,14% |
9º | ![]() |
2,31% |
10º | ![]() |
2,24% |
11º | ![]() |
1,89% |
12º | ![]() |
1,79% |
13º | ![]() |
1,73% |
14º | ![]() |
1,59% |
15º | ![]() |
0,74% |
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0,74% | |
17º | ![]() |
0,58% |
18º | ![]() |
0,45% |
19º | ![]() |
0,41% |
20º | ![]() |
0,36% |
21º | ![]() |
0,33% |
22º | ![]() |
0,31% |
Outros | 1,89% | |
Nenhum | 21,31% | |
Não sabe | 3,12% |
- Margem de erro de 1,00 p.p. 189.61.16.215 (talk) 23:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)189.61.16.215 (talk) 23:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)