Talk:Princess Isabelle of Orléans (1900–1983)
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Requested move 6 September 2023
It has been proposed in this section that Princess Isabelle of Orléans (1900–1983) be renamed and moved to Princess Isabelle of Orléans, Countess of Harcourt. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}} . Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. |
Princess Isabelle of Orléans (1900–1983) → Princess Isabelle of Orléans, Countess of Harcourt – To provide a more natural disambiguation, an improvement over using years of birth and death. Her husband already has Count of Harcourt in the article's name on his page. Killuminator (talk) 22:44, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment If this move proceeds we should also move Princess Isabelle of Orléans (1878–1961) to Princess Isabelle of Orléans, Duchess of Guise. There is just no logical reason to disambiguate one based on title and the other based on birth and death years. Keivan.fTalk 23:42, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. As Keivan.f said, Princess Isabelle of Orléans (1878–1961) should be moved to Princess Isabelle of Orléans, Duchess of Guise. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. I can find reliable sources calling her Countess Bruno d'Harcourt, but none saying she was the Countess of Harcourt. This isn't a substantive peerage and shouldn't be forced into that style simply for wikipedia's sake. DrKay (talk) 15:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION says "Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title, is sometimes preferred. However, do not use obscure or made-up names." So, natural disambiguation does not apply in this case as there are no English reliable sources calling her this. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:27, 15 September 2023 (UTC)