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This page is for requesting access to the redirect autopatrol pseudoright. If you wish to discuss this list, its requirements, or NPP in general, please do so at the NPP discussion page.

The criteria for this pseudoright is an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects (usually more than 100).

Requests will generally be left open for at least 24 hours, although this is not a requirement. Administrators will consider endorsements and concerns from new page reviewers as part of their decision on whether to add a contributor to the list.

Interaccoonale (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) User has created 305 live redirects and has only had 1 page deleted (G7 deletion). Hey man im josh (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Endorse Looks good, no problems here. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 12:04, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

   Done _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:47, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CycloneYoris (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) They have created 405 redirects and have 26 deleted pages according to xtools. Of those 26 pages that were deleted, there was 1x G8 deletion, 1x G7 deletion, and 24x G6 deletions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:47, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edward-Woodrow (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) User has created 119 redirects, none of which have been deleted. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Joseywales1961 (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) I notice the bot patrols most of my redirects but I am not on the list. I usually create redirects from page moves during NPP, mostly for removing honorifics and/or changing to initial capital letter for human names. 108 created, 3 deleted where the target articles were deleted. Thank you Josey Wales ^Parley 21:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Geographyinitiative (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced user who has created 245 live redirects. Xtools indicates they have 2 deleted pages, one of which was a G6 deletion and the other of which was a G8 deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:30, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Silcox (talk) 17:46, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SilverStar54 (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) They have created 152 live redirects and 2 deleted pages, both of which were G8 deletions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:32, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Silcox (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dancing Hippos (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) User has created 111 live redirects and has 0 deleted pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:34, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Silcox (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TheNewMinistry (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced user with 388 live redirects. They do have some deleted pages, according to xtools, but they've created 146 live redirects since their the last time they had a redirect deleted at RfD (2018-04-30). Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Silcox (talk) 17:43, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CX Zoom (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced user who has created 132 live redirects and 2 deleted pages, both of which were G6 deletions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Silcox (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mistico Dois (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced user who has created 241 live redirects with no deleted pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extremely, extremely weak endorse since I am of the opinion that Le Bon Samaritain and A Huguenot could have been redirected to Parable of the Good Samaritan (as an RFOREIGN) and Huguenot respectively, rather than their present targeting to artworks. But that may well be my less-than-competent mind at work... Silcox (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WikiRedactor (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced editor with 478 live redirects and 20 deleted pages. The last redirect they created which was deleted at RfD was in April of 2020 and since that time they have created 121 live redirects. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Silcox (talk) 17:36, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Persent101 (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) User has created 156 live redirects and 1 deleted page. The deleted page was deleted with a rationale of "G6: Unnecessary redirect". Hey man im josh (talk) 16:00, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak endorse due to the AUSTIN redirect. Silcox (talk) 17:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thiscouldbeauser has been indefinitely blocked for a few weeks now. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TheEagle107 has been indefinitely blocked since May 16th. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please change:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: whitelist start -->

to:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: autopatrol list start -->

and:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: whitelist end -->

to:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: autopatrol list end -->

Per the closure of the requested move above, to match up with the new terminology. A pull request was opened to updated the code; pinging DannyS712. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 19:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do NOT do this edit request (not marking as declined because I'm not an admin so I can't really respond to it) - this should be done at the same time that the bot is updated to change the code and I might not be around for it. Its also unrelated to the requested move above. When I know I'm going to be around, we can figure out how to change this without breaking the bot in the process. DannyS712 (talk) 22:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, this should be coordinated carefully with bot code changes. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 22:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold deactivated as the immediate edit is not ready, pending when DannS712 can schedule changes - at which time this can be done. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We recently added all admins that didn't have autopatrol to the the list in this diff. For me, it is making the page load slow, adds a little bit of clutter, and may also end up being a chore to maintain as the list gets out of sync with new admins and former admins. I wonder if it might be better to just add a check to the bot (the bot can grab a list of all sysops via SQL) instead of manually adding admins to this list. Thoughts? cc DannyS712. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's easy for me to say someone else doing work is a good idea, but yes I think this is a good idea. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49 @Novem Linguae @Hey man im josh No objections from me, but you'll need to get BAG approval if you want to always patrol redirects created by admins instead of just those on this list. Its been a while since I worked on the code for this but it should be fairly easy to add something to the handling of the list of users that get patrolled - I would probably use the API instead of SQL though. It'll be a while before I have time to do this though DannyS712 (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712. Okie dokie. To get the BAG process started, want me to file Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot III 73? –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to create that once we get a bit more participation in this discussion (this probably isn't the right place to have the discussion though - maybe Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers???) DannyS712 (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The admins in charge of this page and who can edit through the full protection have added every admin to the list already, and no one has reverted or challenged, so in my opinion consensus has been met. If you'd like to seek a stronger consensus though I have no objection. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that I didn't close the discussion and jump the gun too quickly, but I did feel as though there was consensus. I wouldn't be upset or offended if someone felt the urge to reopen or restart the conversation that I started at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Add administrators to the redirect autopatrol list. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference between "lets add all the admins" and "lets always patrol redirects by admins with no way of removing them from the list" - the former is easily revertible and a one-time thing, the latter isn't, which is why I thought there should be more discussion to make this a general thing the bot does DannyS712 (talk) 18:53, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, 54 admins were on the list before the mass addition. Ideally though, yes, a bot would manage this task. The bot would be checking whether an admin has the autopatrol perm, so perhaps we could also use said bot to remove people on the list who obtain the autopatrol permission? This is all assuming someone is willing to put the time in create a bot to manage this. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, what I envision is Danny's existing redirect patrol bot (the bot that loads this page to see who is on the redirect autopatrol list before it proceeds to patrol redirects for people) also does an SQL query to see who all the enwiki sysops are, then merge the two data sets (SQL query of admins + the names on this page) together internally. So the idea is that we can take all admins off this page, keeping it smaller and less cluttered. This would not require a new bot that edits this page's wikicode. Hope that makes sense. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that absolutely makes sense and would help if others are experiencing slow loads on the full list. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers § Making redirect autopatrol less bureaucratic. Frostly (talk) 00:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since I'm already listed on this list, does that mean that I'm qualified for Autopatrolled?

If not, can I have an option to turn off reviewed/approved redirect notification by ‪DannyS712 bot III‬. Preferably that option should be turned off by default. Thanks. Hddty (talk) 04:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Hddty. Redirect autopatrol list (RAL) is a bit easier to get than autopatrolled. Over at WP:PERM/AP, they usually look for the creation of around 25 perfect articles (non-redirects) in the last year. By "perfect" I mean even little things like categories and defaultsort should be correct.

You can turn off new article reviewed notifications in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo-echosubscriptions -> "Page review". Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:27, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712, I've just gotten a notification for a redirect I created, has been patrolled by your bot and I'm not on the whitelist. Do I have a right giving me redirect autopatrol or is it just a bug. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 04:24, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The bot marks certain types of redirects as patrolled as well as redirects created by those on the list. Hey man im josh (talk) 10:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh Which types of redirects? Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 10:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per User:DannyS712 bot III: If here because a redirect that you created was patrolled by the bot, it is because either you are listed at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect autopatrol list so that all of the redirects you create are patrolled, or because, based on the page title and the target of the redirect, the redirect is assumed to be uncontroversial under specific rules discussed with new page reviewers. See /rules for a full explanation. Hey man im josh (talk) 10:57, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]