Talk:Battle of Avdiivka (2023–2024)

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Ping User talk:2600:387:C:6D11:0:0:0:5, , the burden per MOS:CAPS is to show that capitalisation is necessary. The term does not appear to meet the high threshold set by MOS:CAPS. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:20, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When did this battle start? On 20 February or 21 February? The article contradicts itself on several parts. Super Ψ Dro 23:16, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Casualty count is bullshit. CANNOT be verified. Unknown would be more appropriate.... 2600:1700:21F8:6080:CF67:4095:3B6E:7DAB (talk) 14:53, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arestovych is a Ukrainian presidential advisor, who hosts a war podcast. WarTranslated just translates what he and other Russian and Ukrainian war bloggers and podcasters into English. While his numbers are probably too high, it’s the only source about Russian casualties that we have. Until new sources come out, please leave it as is. Don’t remove a sourced figure and replace it with nothing because you don’t think it’s accurate, please. If you have a better source that contradicts this one, you are more than welcome to include it. Tomissonneil (talk) 21:07, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly the most qualified person to comment on the classification of this engagement however considering if this continues to next month it will officially overtake The Battle of Verdun as the longest battle in history. Yet according to front lines and the contents of this article it seems more as if the Ukrainian Army has entrenched itself and Russian & DPR forces are attempting to encircle the city and cut off supplies, which is a popular siege tactic. if possible please explain to me why it cannot be called a siege a Rookie editor of This Emporium of Knowledge, SirColdcrown (talk) 18:54, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A report from 18 July by Oleksii Arestovych stated that the Russian/separatist forces lost 30,000 casualties, including 10,000 killed. While these numbers are indeed suspect, I think that we should at least make a note of it, to keep a record of what some Ukrainian sources are claiming about Russian losses, and to compare it to any futures Russian casualty claims.

Link: https://wartranslated.com/day-145-july-18-summary-of-arestovych-and-feygin-daily-broadcast/ Tomissonneil (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the first sentence on that subsection it states that since the start of the invasion there have been 50 deaths. Is this still accurate? Is there a newer source, or any source at all? Der Overmind (talk) 11:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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ADD "As of March 6, 2023 the town remains in Ukrainian hands" (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/5/ukraine-says-russia-pursuing-attempts-to-encircle-bakhmut) Ntean (talk) 01:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Wikipedia is not a newspaper. M.Bitton (talk) 01:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Russian "Izvestya" published an interview with commanders of Russian units participating in siege of Adviivka where they quite openly admit to using "Uragan" MLRS and "Tyulpan" heavy mortars against the town, which I believe is quite notable as Russia in a few months will switch to denying any responsibility in ruining the town as they did in Mariupol.[1] Santorini36 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The battle Section should be updated to include developments that have taken place in 2023, like an escalation in fighting and the Russians beginning a similar encirclement-like maneuver to the one they've used in Bakhmut. GramCanMineAway (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An update to the article is required, I am not one of you so I hope someone can reflect this in upcoming changes. 72.213.180.165 (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That can't be, right? What about the siege of Candia? HappyWith (talk) 20:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be a siege, one has to have nowhere to retreat to. Hence why Verdun was previously the longest. 72.213.180.165 (talk) 23:12, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Artem Murakhovskyi never was a Azov Battalion commander, he used to be a member of this battalion, but then leaved the army. When war started he joined a 25th Airborne brigade. He was an activist and famous person, but he never was an Azov commander ( he only had a private first class rank). So I'm asking for redaction Kolenikua (talk) 09:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has been proposed in this section that Battle of Avdiivka (2023–2024) be renamed and moved to Battle of Avdiivka (2022–present). A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Battle of Avdiivka (2022–2023) → Battle of Avdiivka (2022–present) – Based on when the United States was involved in the war in Afghanistan, the Wikipedia article reads (2001–present), since the battle is still ongoing, it should be read as Battle of Avdioka (2022–present) because readers will compare that article to They get the wrong conclusion that the battle is over. Parham wiki (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It more clearly conveys the fact the battle is not ended, and per the proposal better satisfies the WP:CRITERION of consistency.  —Michael Z. 17:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, my first rationale means the proposed title better serves the CRITERIA of recognizability and precision, by identifying the subject as the battle in progress and not one that’s over.  —Michael Z. 18:25, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious support matches other articles. 90.255.6.219 (talk) 08:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, obviously. Should be the same with Battle of Marinka (2022–2023) too. Presidentofyes12 (talk) 18:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also gave requested move there. Parham wiki (talk) 19:24, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that. Presidentofyes12 (talk) 12:48, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]