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This page is for requesting access to the redirect autopatrol pseudoright. If you wish to discuss this list, its requirements, or NPP in general, please do so at the NPP discussion page.

The criteria for this pseudoright is an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects.

For a request to be considered successful it must have been open for at least 24 hours with the consensus of at least 3 editors who possess the new page reviewer permission (which includes all administrators). After two weeks, if a request does not have the individual consensus of 3 reviewers the request will be automatically closed. Alternatively an administrator may close a request as successful or unsuccessful at any time as part of standard individual administrative discretion for the granting of user rights.

Closed requests will be archived to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect autopatrol list/Old requests after a minimum of three calendar days^[a] following the close of the discussion.

Kaffet i halsen (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) They've created 213 redirects, none of which have been deleted. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:40, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse no major issues. Silcox (talk) 04:56, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:56, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fork99 (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Created a lot of redirects that all seem reasonable. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Note that they currently have 281 unreviewed redirects. I haven't been able to get through their redirects to verify whether they make sense and are relevant. Perhaps someone else can go through some of those to check and reduce that number as a means of checking their redirect creations. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:41, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wait and see I admit that I might be an less-than-competent nitpicker, but I believe that this user seems to be pretty geocentric in creating their redirects.

For instance, they created Public transport in Canterbury to redirect to Public transport in Christchurch; Christchurch is part of the Canterbury region. However, I am of the persuasion that "Public transport in Canterbury" should have been a dab page with a link to Canterbury#Transport (transport of Canterbury, Britain).

I will probably send my example to RFD and take the RFD into account. NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Public transport in Hamilton is another debatable example; it currently redirects to Public transport in Waikato (which includes Hamilton, New Zealand), but why could it not have been dabified with the incorporation of Transportation in Hamilton, Ontario? NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Snoteleks (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Snoteleks has created 157 redirects, only 1 of which was deleted (G6 criteria). Hey man im josh (talk) 23:54, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the deleted one (Phaeothamniophycidae) was deleted before I made it a redirect, not afterwards! I feel like that's important to point out... —Snoteleks 🦠 00:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse no major issues. NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nehme1499 (t · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · redirects created · logs ^{(block • rights • moves)} · rfar · spi) Experienced user with over 94k edits who currently has 2,287 live redirects and 83 deleted pages. Most of the deleted pages are G8, G7, or G6 related. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:35, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove Pjesnik21 per Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Redirect autopatrol - Administrators may "remove" users from the "group": ...at the request of the bot operator, who would be responsible for the patrols. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove ApprenticeFan per Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Redirect autopatrol - Administrators may "remove" users from the "group": ...at the request of the bot operator, who would be responsible for the patrols. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove RandomCanadian per Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Redirect autopatrol - Administrators may "remove" users from the "group": ...at the request of the bot operator, who would be responsible for the patrols. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove LordHood2552 per Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Redirect autopatrol - Administrators may "remove" users from the "group": ...at the request of the bot operator, who would be responsible for the patrols. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following users have changed their name and are included in the list with both their former and current names:

• Dank · Jay is now known as DankJae
• Julia is now known as Linshee
• Justwagen is now known as Parwa104
• Makoy Canlas is now known as Saisønisse
• Sahaib3005 is now known as Sahaib
• Yeepsi is now known as MusicforthePeople

Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 20:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*Treker is now known as StarTrekker and has the autopatrolled permission. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, removed. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please change:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: whitelist start -->

to:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: autopatrol list start -->

and:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: whitelist end -->

to:

<!-- DannyS712 bot III: autopatrol list end -->

Per the closure of the requested move above, to match up with the new terminology. A pull request was opened to updated the code; pinging DannyS712. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 19:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do NOT do this edit request (not marking as declined because I'm not an admin so I can't really respond to it) - this should be done at the same time that the bot is updated to change the code and I might not be around for it. Its also unrelated to the requested move above. When I know I'm going to be around, we can figure out how to change this without breaking the bot in the process. DannyS712 (talk) 22:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, this should be coordinated carefully with bot code changes. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 22:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold deactivated as the immediate edit is not ready, pending when DannS712 can schedule changes - at which time this can be done. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We recently added all admins that didn't have autopatrol to the the list in this diff. For me, it is making the page load slow, adds a little bit of clutter, and may also end up being a chore to maintain as the list gets out of sync with new admins and former admins. I wonder if it might be better to just add a check to the bot (the bot can grab a list of all sysops via SQL) instead of manually adding admins to this list. Thoughts? cc DannyS712. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's easy for me to say someone else doing work is a good idea, but yes I think this is a good idea. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49 @Novem Linguae @Hey man im josh No objections from me, but you'll need to get BAG approval if you want to always patrol redirects created by admins instead of just those on this list. Its been a while since I worked on the code for this but it should be fairly easy to add something to the handling of the list of users that get patrolled - I would probably use the API instead of SQL though. It'll be a while before I have time to do this though DannyS712 (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712. Okie dokie. To get the BAG process started, want me to file Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot III 73? –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to create that once we get a bit more participation in this discussion (this probably isn't the right place to have the discussion though - maybe Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers???) DannyS712 (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The admins in charge of this page and who can edit through the full protection have added every admin to the list already, and no one has reverted or challenged, so in my opinion consensus has been met. If you'd like to seek a stronger consensus though I have no objection. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that I didn't close the discussion and jump the gun too quickly, but I did feel as though there was consensus. I wouldn't be upset or offended if someone felt the urge to reopen or restart the conversation that I started at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Add administrators to the redirect autopatrol list. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference between "lets add all the admins" and "lets always patrol redirects by admins with no way of removing them from the list" - the former is easily revertible and a one-time thing, the latter isn't, which is why I thought there should be more discussion to make this a general thing the bot does DannyS712 (talk) 18:53, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, 54 admins were on the list before the mass addition. Ideally though, yes, a bot would manage this task. The bot would be checking whether an admin has the autopatrol perm, so perhaps we could also use said bot to remove people on the list who obtain the autopatrol permission? This is all assuming someone is willing to put the time in create a bot to manage this. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, what I envision is Danny's existing redirect patrol bot (the bot that loads this page to see who is on the redirect autopatrol list before it proceeds to patrol redirects for people) also does an SQL query to see who all the enwiki sysops are, then merge the two data sets (SQL query of admins + the names on this page) together internally. So the idea is that we can take all admins off this page, keeping it smaller and less cluttered. This would not require a new bot that edits this page's wikicode. Hope that makes sense. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that absolutely makes sense and would help if others are experiencing slow loads on the full list. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]