Talk:2022 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of 2021-22 Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball team was copied or moved into 2022 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game with this edit on 19:18, April 4, 2022. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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– Case norm, like the 3500 other men's basketball tournament articles, etc., recent moved to lowercase. Note: Need to get explicit consensus again to get bot help for about 200 moves with these patterns, including about 66 Templates and a bunch of championship game articles. Dicklyon (talk) 03:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note that sources don't cap things like "Men's Basketball Championship Game". The templates to move are listed in User:Dicklyon/Templates to move; many others were moved to lowercase already. Dicklyon (talk) 03:27, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Re-evaluate considering the recent capitalization-related discussion on Talk:Wild Card Series and Talk:Division Series. I think there may be a case to undo all the recent NCAA capitalization moves. O.N.R. ^(talk) 04:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Are you suggesting that there could be a case for capitalizing "Men's Basketball Tournament" and such? Dicklyon (talk) 16:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting. O.N.R. ^(talk) 01:54, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Division Series" is capped as a trademark of MLB. I don't think we've seen anything like that for "wild card series" (for which closer noted there was no clear consensus on capitalization, and which is not a trademark) nor for "men's basketball championship" (for which there was a clear consensus for lowercase). Is there now a new case to capitalize those? Dicklyon (talk) 04:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Use lower-case since articles are not consistently capitalizing these things. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 17:47, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per SMcCandlish. Tony (talk) 01:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Using 2022 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game as an example, NCAA is an initialism of National Collegiate Athletic Association. Per MOS:INSTITUTIONS, we would capitalise the expanded form, even though it might be considered a descriptive name and not a true proper name. Everything thereafter is descriptive, with no inherent reason to capitalise but I will confine my comment to the downcasing proposed. Per evidence provided by the Nom, capitalisation in sources is mixed. Therefore, per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS the guidance is to use lowercase. That the NCAA (and similar organisations) might capitalise events under their auspices is immaterial, since they are not independent of the subject (per MOS:CAPS). Cinderella157 (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Cinderella157 and SMcCandlish. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support No need to captitalize when it reads fine as a lowercase basic English description.—Bagumba (talk) 06:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]