Talk:Killing of Michelle Go

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Michelle Alyssa Go → Death of Michelle Go – Her middle name is not needed. The AFD result was, that if the article is kept, it should be moved to a page about her death. -- Jax 0677 (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom, and article seems to be mainly about her death. --The Tips of Apmh 14:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 00:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. She was pushed to her death by someone, so per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (violence and deaths) the article should move to Killing of Michelle Go. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Reply - I personally think that "Death" is more neutral, but I do not oppose "Killing" or "Murder" once proper evidence is in place. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. I'd also support "Killing of Michelle Go", and "Murder of Michelle Go" once a murder conviction has passed. GBFEE (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as the incident is about Go's death, not Go herself. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. I prefer Killing of Michelle Go, per WP:DEATHS and because this event was noteworthy due to the fact that she was killed, not merely the fact that she died. Still, Death of Michelle Go (or anything similar) is better than the current title. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:06, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Justin Go and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 29#Justin Go until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Happy editing--IAmChaos 08:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jax 0677, I know what the guidance on "alleged" says, but I think you went overboard with the word in the page. There hasn't been any doubt cast on the fact that the named perpetrator pushed Go, and he did admit to doing it. Although he is mentally ill, there's no evidence that someone else pushed Go and he's just saying he did it.

From a purely grammatical standpoint, "who was allegedly pushed to her death" makes it sound like she may not have been pushed to her death. GBFEE (talk) 20:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Reply - Let's get some buyin before we remove "alledgedly" from those paragraphs. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Allegedly" usually isn't in the resources reporting on this topic, especially when saying who pushed Go and that the perpetrator was harassing another woman right before he committed the crime. That's your editorial decision. Having it there after every other sentence makes for a distracting read. I didn't suggest all of the uses be removed. You could still fix the first sentence by rearranging it, or splitting it into two, while you wait for that "buy-in." GBFEE (talk) 20:40, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]