Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/File mover

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• Terasail (t · th · c ^{(file space)} · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^(notify)

I have been requesting multiple WP:FNC#7 file moves from database reports and would like to continue this without requiring {{Rename media}} for each move. Terasail^[✉️] 13:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terasail, I would generally lean towards support but do have some concerns. You changed your request to rename File:Instyle magazine cover March 2019.jpg from Instyle (magazine).jpg to Instyle magazine cover March 2019.jpg. This is not ideal for non-free files. By specifying the year and month in the filename, if the file gets overwritten it'll have to be moved again. Or a different cover would be uploaded as a new file, resulting in deletion of this file and making it more difficult to revert to some previous image. I also noticed your request to rename File:The good ones.jpg included "album", but it is actually a single. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz: I see, at the time for File:Instyle magazine cover March 2019.jpg, I was trying to avoid being vague with the title and implying that it was a logo of the magazine in the title. And for the second file I misread the infobox rather than reading the lead of the article when checking if it was a song or album, which I will avoid in the future. Terasail^[✉️] 16:41, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terasail, when Feelin' lucky does nothing, it's usually a sign the Wikidata item needs work. After creating some claims I used Feelin' lucky. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - not seeing any problems after Alexis' comments. If you're ever in doubt, leave it for someone else. Anarchyte (talk) 10:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Gpkp (t · th · c ^{(file space)} · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^(notify)

Hello. Requesting perm. I've been renaming files in Commons from around a year. Now I am interested to contribute in Wiki too. --Gpkp [u • t • c] 18:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC) Gpkp [u • t • c] 18:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gpkp, I actually lean to oppose here. I see no recent rename requests (but do share if I missed any) and your uploads are all CamelCase, for example File:DefenceScienceAndTechnologyLaboratory.png, File:W.WallaceClelandImage.jpg, File:MithuAurAapa.jpg and File:UniteHealthShareMinistries.jpg. What files would you want to rename and what would you rename them to? Are you aware of the differences between enwiki and Commons moving guidelines? If you are interested in moving files, you can use LuckyRename to aid in making requests. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz:; I agree if you decline the request based on the fact that I have not made any rename requests. By the way I like to confirm that I wont rename files in CamelCase pattern if I am in a place to rename files (based on the fact that I've not named or renamed any files in CamelCase pattern in Commons)
Answering the queries: I wanted to rename files listed in: Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming. About the differences between enwiki and Commons moving guidelines: There are quite a few more criteria in Wiki, being on: misleading names, generic bio-names, Disambiguate files, pejorative/offensive, shadowing a Commons file-name.
Requesting your opinion...
--Gpkp [u • t • c] 06:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gpkp, I don't know. The consistent use of CamelCase in your uploads is odd, but if you won't do that when moving files I guess that's not an immediate problem. Will you use a gadget/userscript that automatically performs replacements? LuckyRename (linked above) is the only one I'm aware of, the Commons gadget doesn't work here. When I applied for file mover I wanted to work on the category just like you, as a result the category is now empty most of the time. Here are some files from another maintenance list (they shadow a Commons file or redirect), what would you rename these to and why?

• File:Haunts of The Brethren of the Coast (map).jpg
• File:Unidentified potted Haworthia (2008).jpg
• File:Hebrew keyboard layout (alt key combinations in blue).png
• File:Heinrich Bär (Luftwaffe flying ace, born 1913).jpg
• File:The Help (2011 film).jpg
• File:Henderson's Boys (book series) logo.jpg
• File:Himilo Qaran (political party) logo.jpg
• File:Jack Hobbs and Herbert Sutcliffe (1926).jpg
• File:Homer Sprague (writer, abolitionist, lieutenant colonel, born 1829).jpg
• File:Hotel Polen (1977 fire).jpg

It's okay to cheat by using the Feelin' Lucky button in LuckyRename, somewhat over half of the suggestions are fine as-is. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz:; I will be honest in answering by not using the script; I will rename files as:

The reason behind my renaming pattern is to avoid shadowing a Commons file-name, by: ,
*including year the file was created, or
*the full name/location of the subject, or
*including small description of subject, or type of image
--Gpkp [u • t • c] 12:25, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gpkp, I absolutely encourage cheating. Similar to using machine translation you still need to be able to recognize poor suggestions but the suggestions make for a bit more consistency in filenames. The table shows you understand the policy very well. I'd personally avoid using double quotes (") in filenames as they can interfere with some scripts and are illegal if a Windows user tries to save the file to their computer. If you'll replace existing usage (either by hand or using a gadget/userscript) I fully support your application. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:50, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz:; Many thanks for your help, suggestions and support! Appreciate your assistance. On the last file in question, I prefer renaming:
   Hauntsofthebrethren.jpg to: Haunts of The Brethren of the Coast (map).jpg.
By the way, I've requested renames for the files you have suggested. It would be more helpful for me if you could provide the link to the maintenance list, which you mentioned earlier in this thread.
--Gpkp [u • t • c] 07:50, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gpkp, you put the {{Rename media}} template in the wrong place.. it doesn't belong in the description and a <br> even less so. Just saying, with LuckyRename you couldn't have gotten that wrong. The maintenance is low priority and I chip away at it slowly. Requesting renames for everything on the list won't be helping much. Right now it's more work because I have to remove that <br> everywhere. Now I notice you're inserting them here as well. Why? And you forgot to answer: will you replace existing usage when renaming/use a gadget/userscript that replaces existing usage? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also a bit confused as to why you included "(windows)" in the suggested name for File:Hebrew keyboard layout (alt key combinations in blue).png. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 14:07, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz:; Answering the queries: I inserted the rename-media tag in the description because, its mentioned in the template's usage section as: the template has to be placed on the file description page. I will replace existing usage once-while renaming. I included 'windows' because, just to keep it simple in renaming, and, as the keyboard's usage is with windows operating system. --Gpkp [u • t • c] 06:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gpkp, I clarified the documentation for {{Rename media}}. What do you mean by "I will replace existing usage once"? Is there any other way than once? The keyboard isn't for Windows, it's just a PC keyboard which generally has a Windows key regardless of what operating system is used. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Idoghor Melody (t · th · c ^{(file space)} · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ^{(blocks · rights · moves)} · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)^(notify)

Would love the file mover rights because it will help reduce work load for other movers and to help move/rename files that desires such. I have come across quite a number of files that needs to be renamed(though I may have forgotten such names) but I saw one today that I would have been able to to do if only I had the rights. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Idoghor Melody: I'm not seeing any instances of file rename requests filed by you. Could you please give us some examples of where you would use this role? Anarchyte (talk) 09:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]