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==== Category:Philip Wylie ====
==== Category:Philip Wylie ====
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:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''

:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. Those who defend the category have not explained why this category defies the usual application of [[WP:OCEPON]]. A large number of pages within sub-categories does not provide a rationale to keep a sparsely-populated parent. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 14:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Philip Wylie}}<br />
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Philip Wylie}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:OCEPON]] '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 08:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:OCEPON]] '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 08:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' per [[WP:OCEPON]]. The "works by" categorization scheme is not just for literary works. The novels should be placed in [[:Category:Novels by Philip Wylie]], which in turn can be added to [[:Category:Works by Philip Wylie]], and still no need for the eponymous parent/grandparent. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 22:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per [[WP:OCEPON]]. The "works by" categorization scheme is not just for literary works. The novels should be placed in [[:Category:Novels by Philip Wylie]], which in turn can be added to [[:Category:Works by Philip Wylie]], and still no need for the eponymous parent/grandparent. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 22:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' This discussion has been listed at [[WP:AN/RFC]]. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:14px;">[[User:InvalidOS|<span style="color:#06A;">Invalid</span>]]<sup>[[User:InvalidOS/c|<span style="color:#A06">OS</span>]]</sup> ([[User:InvalidOS/t|talk]])</span> 16:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' This discussion has been listed at [[WP:AN/RFC]]. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:14px;">[[User:InvalidOS|<span style="color:#06A;">Invalid</span>]]<sup>[[User:InvalidOS/c|<span style="color:#A06">OS</span>]]</sup> ([[User:InvalidOS/t|talk]])</span> 16:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Merge articles by quality ====
==== Category:Merge articles by quality ====

Revision as of 14:25, 1 June 2019

May 17

Category:Ravi (rapper)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 10:08, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one related article which doesn't necessitate the need for an eponymous category. WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Disciples of Apocalypse

Nominator's rationale: Only 4 pages, none will be added. Category is not needed Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 15:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Galatz: Actually I was asking you to point me to a consensus or policy which "explicitly" mentions that any cat with less than "5 entries" should not be created.
Now, WP:SMALLCAT writes, Avoid categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme,.... Point is -
  1. How much is "few members"? A rather vague statement. I can very well consider 6 entries in The Blue World Order members (only 2 more than DoA) to be "few members" and tag it for deletion. And Category:The Road Warriors members also has only 9 entries.
  2. The above guideline is also exempt from sub-categorization and The Disciples of Apocalypse is a Sub-CAT of WWE teams and stables.
Having said that, I'll stand by my words. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:59, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Oculi: Yes, but those are specific exceptions in WP:SMALLCAT, this is not a common place category. If you look at Category:Professional wrestling teams and stables there are hundred of articles but very few categories for them. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 15:12, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, although the guideline is imprecise a minimum of 5 is used in practice a lot. A cut-off like 5 makes perfect sense to the extent that an article will mention ~4 members in one the opening sentences of the article, while ~10 members would be too many to mention in a opening sentence. In addition, the SMALLCAT exception does not apply, per Galatz. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:18, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ring of Honor stables and teams

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistent with all other categories in Category:American promotions teams and stables Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 14:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Philip Wylie

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Those who defend the category have not explained why this category defies the usual application of WP:OCEPON. A large number of pages within sub-categories does not provide a rationale to keep a sparsely-populated parent. – Fayenatic London 14:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON --woodensuperman 08:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Even the "other" subcat, Category:Films based on works by Philip Wylie, belongs quite properly in Category:Works by Philip Wylie, which I have just added as a parent. Ordinarily, I would have gone ahead and finished the job by removing the redundant parent, Category:Philip Wylie, but I left it there purely out of consideration for this discussion. The bottom line is, Category:Works by Philip Wylie is absolutely all that is needed to provide a home for all of the subcategories. Keeping *this* category would fly in the face of The.Most.Basic. of all criteria for creation of valid categories, eponymous or otherwise. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Due to potential canvassing by Yasnodark, it is impossible to determine consensus from this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, InvalidOS (talk) 14:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Merge articles by quality

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 10:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories for the WikiProject Merge assessment department, a department that never got off the ground and never tagged a single article. Trialpears (talk) 12:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Antivirus software that uses GTK

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Antivirus software. (non-admin closure) InvalidOS (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Populated by only one page. CoolSkittle (talk) 18:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buildings and structures in Comayagua

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 1#Category:Buildings and structures in Comayagua

Category:Buildings and structures in Chełm

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 1#Category:Buildings and structures in Chełm

Category:MSNBC program hosts

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't find it necessary to have two categories with MSNBC associated people. Most people in the "MSNBC people" category are current or former hosts/analysts. Merging these people in with the above category should be appropriate. Tinton5 (talk) 01:30, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

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Category:Musers

Nominator's rationale: No clear indication of what purpose this category serves. Added subjects seem to be a hodgepodge of YouTubers with different areas of interest from singing to large hair bows. While I'm not suggesting any nefarious motivation by the category creator, this category seems like an "in spirit" contravention of WP:NEOLOGISM, since "muser" is not a common modern term and without any context or explanation, we're lumping people into this category, when it's so vague it could indiscriminately encapsulate thousands of people. I am not inflexible, so if others have strong arguments for why it should exist and for why it's not just a marketing neologism, I'll happily consider standing aside. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:36, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyphoidbomb: lol we did that at the same time --DannyS712 (talk) 04:37, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Marcocapelle Or, rename it to Category:TikTok celebrities. Störm (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The Office (UK TV series) episodes

Nominator's rationale: This category only contains two articles: the main episode list and an article about the Christmas specials. No other episodes have articles. It could very easily be restored if more episode-articles are ever created. Grapesoda22 () 02:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]