MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages: Difference between revisions

Wikipedia has five kinds of top-of-page messages that can be used to convey information or announcements to readers and editors. The "Sitenotice", found at MediaWiki:Sitenotice, is displayed at the top of all pages for all logged-in users, and for anonymous users if the following message is empty. MediaWiki:Anonnotice can be used to display information only to anonymous/IP users, not logged-in users. Alternatively, by 'blanking' the anonnotice and replacing it with nothing (not even a space or empty paragraph!), then the sitenotice can be used as a "logged-in users only" notice to display information only to editors. When "Anonnotice" contains nothing, no notice is shown to anonymous users. When it contains "-" it disables the message in favour of Sitenotice. If it contains anything else, it will be rendered to anonymous users instead of the Sitenotice (including a "hide" button). MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages is displayed at the top of Special:Watchlist for all users who use this feature. The CentralNotice, found at meta:Special:CentralNotice, is an extension which can display banners at the top of a select group of Wikimedia sites simultaneously. Geonotice, at Wikipedia:Geonotice, allows location-specific notices – and is a candidate for integration into MediaWiki.

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See Wikipedia:Watchlist notices for documentation of how to add, maintain or hide watchlist notices.

Plan to add this active RFC:

• A request for comment is currently open regarding allowing account creators the ability to mark new accounts as confirmed.

Any comments or objections? — xaosflux ^Talk 17:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seems appropriate. –xeno^talk 18:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An RfC has commenced at WT:NOT that would change that policy in a substantive way, impacting on all articles relating to recent events. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#RFC:_New_subsection_under_.22Not_a_Newspaper.22_about_commentary Given its wide potential impact I think it qualifies to be on watchlists. I suggest that it be added for the duration of the RfC, one month. Coretheapple (talk) 12:16, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potential wording:

• A request for comment is currently open regarding restricting use of media commentary in articles on current events.

-- Coretheapple (talk) 12:21, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• No need at this time: hasn't been advertised through the usual channels yet: no CENT notice. I'm not sure it would be neccesary even after that: we're talking about one paragraph to NOT, not anything that would change userrights, affect WMF policy, etc. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:04, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I dd see ot added to Centralized discussions, if that's what you're referring to. Coretheapple (talk) 13:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah nevermind, don't know why I missed that; I'll blame it on being on mobile. The other point still stands: this is not actually a major change and falls well short of what normally gets a watchlist notice. There is no need to add it at this time. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:14, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think adding a paragraph to a fundamental Wikipedia policy is by definition major, and would have a major impact on how articles on current events are created (for better or worse, depending upon one's position). I've seen less consequential proposals advertised on watchlists. Coretheapple (talk) 13:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can we add something like:

• The ACTRIAL experiement is currently running which retricts non-autoconfirmed users from creating articles in the main namespace.

Kaldari (talk) 22:46, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done with an expiry of 1 week, should be long enough for interested editors to see the notice -- There'sNoTime ^{(to explain)} 08:32, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:There'sNOTime Please take that banner off immediately. This is a very bad idea with no support from ACTRIAL participants. It will actually harm the trial. Ping User:Kudpung Legacypac (talk) 13:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

A change is coming concerning the Watchlists (see the announcement) and we plan to rephrase Watchlist-details original description.

At the moment, this is sentence the your wiki: "You have $1 pages on your watchlist (excluding talk pages)."

Old default (before it has been changed, standard on quite all wikis): "$1 pages on your watchlist, not separately counting talk pages."

New one (to be deployed on all wikis): "$1 pages are on your Watchlist (plus talk pages)."

The one on your wiki and the new one are quite similar. We plan to make this change for consistency with other wikis.

Best, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 08:29, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Trizek (WMF): I think the change of wording is fine, but removing the help links is not. —Kusma (t·c) 08:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]