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== Afro engineering ==
== Afro engineering ==
Quick inquiry in regard to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afro engineering]]. I'm willing to take up the task of merging the article, as I stated in the AfD, but I really think [[jury rigging]] is a better place. All the terms at [[list of ethnic slurs]] are derogatory nouns that refer to members of certain groups. In the case of the terms in question, they aren't used in that way (i.e. as nouns), one wouldn't use "afro engineer" or "nigger rigger" to refer to someone; they are used as adjectives (e.g. a "nigger rigged car") and verbs (e.g. "afro engineer the air conditioner").<small>—&nbsp;[[User:Godsy|<span style="color:MediumSpringGreen;">Godsy</span>]]<sup>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Godsy|TALK]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/Godsy|<span style="color:Goldenrod;">CONT</span>]])</sub></small> 17:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Quick inquiry in regard to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afro engineering]]. I'm willing to take up the task of merging the article, as I stated in the AfD, but I really think [[jury rigging]] is a better place. All the terms at [[list of ethnic slurs]] are derogatory nouns that refer to members of certain groups. In the case of the terms in question, they aren't used in that way (i.e. as nouns), one wouldn't use "afro engineer" or "nigger rigger" to refer to someone; they are used as adjectives (e.g. a "nigger rigged car") and verbs (e.g. "afro engineer the air conditioner").<small>—&nbsp;[[User:Godsy|<span style="color:MediumSpringGreen;">Godsy</span>]]<sup>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Godsy|TALK]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/Godsy|<span style="color:Goldenrod;">CONT</span>]])</sub></small> 17:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
:I can see your point from a pure grammar argument. As an AfD closer, I try to be as neutral as I can. What I saw here was a slight preference for the way I closed it, but I don't really have anything invested in that. Perhaps the best thing would be if you pinged the other AfD participants here and see what other people think. If the other participants in the AfD are OK with it, I have no objection myself. -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 18:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Symantec Endpoint protection Help

I found the page with the promotional links Symantec Endpoint Protection and it was kept for long time in Wikipedia & it is also nominated for deletion several times. I would like to nominate the page again for the deletion, would you please help me on proceeding with this. I've recently updated deletion request for the page "McAfee Endpoint Protection" & it is removed now. I wish to do the same for this page to Wikipedia more clear out of promotional stuff. (WikiGopi (talk) 10:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Done. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Symantec Endpoint Protection (2nd nomination). -- RoySmith (talk) 11:11, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you RoySmith for helping me on this. (WikiGopi (talk) 11
29, 20 October 2016 (UTC))

Yes, I wanted the deleted revisions restored[1]. How is that not clear? I could, of course, have simply pasted the deleted material back in, but that would have lost the attribution. I am really struggling with why people think DRV is the wrong venue for this. I am asking for restoration of material deleted by (in my opinion) a misconceived AFD. Both the alternative suggested venues are unsuitable; WP:UNDELETE because a page that has been through AFD is clearly not an uncontroversial undeletion, and WP:BOLD because that would be in CSD G4 territory, to say nothing of WP:WHEELing with the AFD closing admin. SpinningSpark 16:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chill a little :-) Most of the confusion on my part was when you wrote believe that this version of the page should be restored., the link you left didn't go anywhere useful; it just takes me to Search Deleted Pages. But, in any case, I've restored the deleted revisions now. Happy editing. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry about the link. I don't know how that happened, pity someone didn't mention it during the debate so I could fix it. Thanks for restoring. SpinningSpark 18:38, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sady Doyle deletion

The article on Sady Doyle was deleted (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sady_Doyle ) in August 2016 but the discussion inaccurately assessed the subject's body of work. The delete discussion didn't accurately describe the volume of her writing, such as in the Guardian[1], but only noted her writing in the Atlantic[2]. Since the deletion, she also published a book[3] which has been reviewed in notable outlets[4][5]. Further, she was mentioned in the leaked Podesta emails as someone of importance to the Clinton campaign's messaging[6], and has been cited elsewhere as a "prominent feminist."[7]. I think the article should be restored. Grisamentum (talk) 23:25, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

Please see my comments at Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Sady_Doyle -- RoySmith (talk) 23:35, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Afro engineering

Quick inquiry in regard to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afro engineering. I'm willing to take up the task of merging the article, as I stated in the AfD, but I really think jury rigging is a better place. All the terms at list of ethnic slurs are derogatory nouns that refer to members of certain groups. In the case of the terms in question, they aren't used in that way (i.e. as nouns), one wouldn't use "afro engineer" or "nigger rigger" to refer to someone; they are used as adjectives (e.g. a "nigger rigged car") and verbs (e.g. "afro engineer the air conditioner").— Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can see your point from a pure grammar argument. As an AfD closer, I try to be as neutral as I can. What I saw here was a slight preference for the way I closed it, but I don't really have anything invested in that. Perhaps the best thing would be if you pinged the other AfD participants here and see what other people think. If the other participants in the AfD are OK with it, I have no objection myself. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]