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Thanks for the PP. However I fear you arrived just a bit late. The article was blanked again and the version you have protected is the one that is being sharply condemned at ANI and elsewhere. There is no consensus in favor of blanking the article. Could you please restore the full version until after the AfD is finished? Thanks... -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 17:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the PP. However I fear you arrived just a bit late. The article was blanked again and the version you have protected is the one that is being sharply condemned at ANI and elsewhere. There is no consensus in favor of blanking the article. Could you please restore the full version until after the AfD is finished? Thanks... -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 17:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
:Hey Ad Orientem, thanks for making the RFPP request. I do think full protection will help out here. What I'm not as sure about is restoring any said version of the page. From my cursory 20 minutes of reading into this argument, I'm not convinced that restoring the previous text would be helpful here, or that there is any consensus to do so. I think that's what discussion is ''for''. Take a look at the template note I've left at the top of the page; [[WP:WRONGVERSION]] also applies here. I've got to head out, otherwise I would spend some more time trying to understand what's going on. I'd like to add that I really appreciate the effort you and others are putting into this. I think it's an important topic that deserves close attention. Best, [[User:Airplaneman|<span style="color:blue;size=2">Airplaneman</span>]][[User talk:Airplaneman|<span style="color:#33dd44;size=2"> ✈</span>]] 17:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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A Favor

In November, you semi-protected List of Ice Age characters as per a request to stop an anonymous vandal obsessed with inserting original research (and edit-warring to protect its OR). Would it be possible if I could ask you to protect List of Ice Age characters again because that same vandal as returned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apokryltaros (talkcontribs) 05:54, 6 February 2016

It's done. Cheers, Airplaneman 05:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-a-thon at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago!

Come join us on Saturday, March 5th between 12PM - 5PM for the Art+Feminism 2016 edit-a-thon at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago! We'll be focusing our efforts on women involved in the arts, and a list of articles for artists in Chicago and the U.S. Midwest has been compiled at the project page. The event is free, but only if you register at the project page ahead of time. I'll be there, and I hope to see you there too! I JethroBT (talk) 06:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Rain song

Seems the IP created an account and is now harassing my talk page, any chance of blocking that user or semi my talk ? Thanx, Mlpearc (open channel) 20:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't see it until it died down. Let me know if you continue having trouble. Airplaneman 16:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, seems they've gained a mentor so all's well for now. Thanx, Mlpearc (open channel) 16:13, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Airplaneman,

I'm writing on behalf of Actor/Producer Jackky Bhagnani. Our company, CA MEDIA represents the actor and all his Media Management.

For the last 4 days, we have been constantly editing his Wikipedia page and have now also added reference articles, citations for all his career + award related information.

Request you to please assist in helping us maintain the same.

Warm Regards,

Hardik Katira Sr. Manager - Artist Alliance CA Media (India) Digital Pvt. Ltd.

mail: hk@camedialp.com


Bavisimegha (talk) 10:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hardik, thank you for your note. It seems like you have a strong conflict of interest in this topic. I'd like to point you towards Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest policy, where conflict of interest "editing is strongly discouraged. It undermines the public's confidence in Wikipedia, and risks causing public embarrassment to the individuals being promoted." I urge you to read the policy page for yourself to see why Jackky's publicity team is discouraged from directly editing his page. Please see the paid editing guideline for more information. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the improvement of the encyclopedia. All the best, Airplaneman 19:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you protect my User page?

Can you protect my User page with Semi Protection that is permanent? I can't do it with my computer because it won't allow me to send a request on the normal page for requesting protection for pages. Also it's to prevent any possible vandals from editing my user page. Thanks! DatNuttyWikipedian (talk) 00:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@DatNuttyWikipedian: so sorry I didn't get back sooner; seems like Acdixon (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has taken care of it. Happy summer (hope you're all better from heat stroke), Airplaneman 19:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request to be emailed content from the recently deleted article: Fred Joyal

Hi Airplaneman -

Wonder if you could help me. I'm trying to find the content from the recently deleted article: Fred Joyal. Any help would be appreciated. Not sure if you have access to may email address. If no, it's towens149@gmail.com. Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Towens149 (talk) 00:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Towens149, sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I have been busy in real life and hadn't checked my talk page for a while. Interestingly, this site seems to hold the content you're looking for.
Some notes to myself, so I don't have to go digging again if I ever need to: Fred Joyal was created by Aalkenni (talk · contribs). Deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred Joyal.
Cheers,
Airplaneman 19:28, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

nice move— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybersister27 (talkcontribs) 16:32, 2 April 2015

I am new editor please help

Sir i want to create an articleSecrets of universe,Can i start this article,i am requeting you please guide me (Agoodboyfrom (talk) 04:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the warm welcome and feedback on my entry, Airplaneman. Diane Latiker is a true inspiration. Appreciated the helpful links as well. Cheers 2602:306:8B68:770:6432:2E0A:400E:789E (talk) 03:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. I hope you stick around! Airplaneman 18:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Continuous edit warring and distributive edit on Sino-Vietnamese War page by Spartacus

Admin.

Spartacus! keeps vandalizing the Sino-Vietnamese War page.

I have refuted him in the talk section but he just does not get it! He provided a economy article with a 1 page blurry picture to support his claims. I have added solely war dedicated article, yet he keeps on trolling and vandalizing them.

Please block him and protect the page.

Thank you,

--67.175.16.150 (talk) 14:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Refer to here. Airplaneman 16:55, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contacting admins in emergency situations

Hi, following up on this request, is there a way to contact an admin when there is no response to a very urgent page protection or block request on a dedicated project page? For example a list of admins who are online, or a Wikimedia email address. In the past two days, on two occasions it took 45-60 minutes before a page with rampant vandalism was protected, which even made the news. Thanks, Gap9551 (talk) 15:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Gap9551, I've given this request some thought and have decided to extend protection. I do think my original request was too by-the-book and understand that this is a unique situation. As for this making the news—that can't be helped. The nature of this encyclopedia that anyone can edit leaves it vulnerable to abuse, and the trend of shoddy "journalism" or "news" like yahoo sports certainly can feed off that for a cheap laugh. This open-contribution editing philosophy is something we spend countless and sometimes frustrating hours defending. Unless there's a fundamental change in either Wikipedia editing policy or the quality of so-called "news," situations like this will keep occurring.
As for contacting admins, I don't know of a quicker way than WP:RFPP or WP:AIV. WP:IRC exists, but not everyone uses it; I don't. The question of contacting admins quickly for urgent matters is something I've asked myself as well and haven't really figured out an easy solution to. A central place for admins to view anti-vandalism requests in real time, or a way to provide push notifications to admins on requests for help might be interesting. Right now, I have to check my watchlist or the actual WP:RFPP page to see what's going on. It's definitely something Wikipedia could work on to make editing a smoother experience. All the best, Airplaneman 15:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks for extending. The original request probably could have asked for a longer protection, but I hadn't thought of that either at the time. Also thanks for your explanation. You're right that making 'news' can't always be avoided but I was mostly concerned about the long response time. Gap9551 (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chobe District (Separated from North-West District listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chobe District (Separated from North-West District. Since you had some involvement with the Chobe District (Separated from North-West District redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:11, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article might no longer need protection

User:Widr has issued an indef block of User:Chevyoncé for socking. See block. You had previously done a full protection of the article per this 3RR complaint. Though both parties broke 3RR, it seems that This Is What the Truth Feels Like might no longer need protection. The article was promoted to be a Good Article on August 3 and it's possible that some editors might be standing by to improve it. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: Thanks for the note. I've unprotected the article. Best, Airplaneman 16:32, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Why isn't this called 1948 War of Independence? I don't want to edit-war over this, but the current name sounds bizarre, to say the least.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zigzig20s: Good question. I'm honestly not sure. For context, I instituted 30/500 protection as per a request at WP:RFPP. Looks like the page has been under its current title since this move in 2010. Here's the page's move log. There's also a note on the talk page from December 2015 that asks the same question you just asked. It may be worth starting a discussion on the talk page, or, if you think there's a more neutral name, start a move discussion. Best, Airplaneman 01:27, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you not move it to 1948 War of Independence? This is what everyone calls it.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:29, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can, but I won't at the moment. I'd prefer determining consensus, first. Airplaneman 01:33, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

India at olympics

page marked as protected. But wrong information................ PV Sindhu won silver, not gold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baluperoth (talkcontribs) 15:34, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Baluperoth: As an autoconfirmed user, you should be able to edit the page! Looks like the fact you mentioned has been corrected since I protected the page. Best, Airplaneman 19:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RfPP

Hey Airplaneman, I saw that you indefinitely semi'd my user page User:LuK3. Would it be possible to fully protect my main user page instead? Thanks! -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Luk3: It's been done. I originally didn't full protect just because, along the spirit of the protection policy, pages aren't protected pre-emotively. Looking at your page history, I did not see a large need for full protection and thought it would be a bit heavy-handed to proceed with full protection (though I do understand that there was at least 1 case of confirmed account vandalism). Having given this more thought and upon seeing your note—in addition to taking a look at the protection policy—I don't see why full protection would be disallowed, so I've applied it. Please let me know if you need anything else. Cheers, Airplaneman 02:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw this note as well. It's true that the SOP is to only semi-protect user pages; I think I've only run into one other fully protected user page in my entire time here. The instance of auto confirmed vandalism, though only one-off, could establish a "need" here. I'm sticking with my current decision to fully protect at this time. Airplaneman 02:58, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion

Could you check/add a second opinion here? Please feel free to protect the article if you want. Not event 50 edits in 2016, non-constructive edits in every 1-2 month(s) -- I am a little reluctant. --Tito Dutta (talk) 04:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Titodutta: I can understand your reluctance here. I've decided to pending change protect for a month and have provided further reasoning on the RFPP page. I do consider myself a little more liberal when it comes to requests for protection because I've definitely been in the position of the requester at RFPP, where disruption significantly hampers editing productivity. I see this, as with most requests on RFPP, to be in good faith and good judgement, and in my view there's enough disruption and no evident construction (from non-autoconfirmed users, at least) such that some level of temporary editing access restriction is a net benefit. Airplaneman 19:31, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Protection request on the Amatrice page

Thanks for the protection request on the Amatrice page. I couldn't figure out how to do it. The agenda of the disruptive edits is quite odd if not annoying. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrakTalk (talkcontribs) 15:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@BrakTalk: No worries, I'm happy to help! To protect pages, you have to have administrative privileges (yep, you have to apply to be a janitor at this place... which is a whole discussion in itself). Let me know if you need anything at all. Cheers, Airplaneman 16:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

Please have a look and consider my request for page protection for the page Björn Kuipers! Please help! Cricket246 (talk) 16:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked. All the best, Airplaneman 21:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cricket246: Take a deep breath and calm down. You're not doing yourself any favors by canvassing administrators when your requests are declined. I don't mind being asked to reconsider. I do mind being asked to reconsider both at my talk page and at RFPP in this panicked tone you're using.
Airplaneman has given you sound advice. Start talking to the other editors instead of exhibiting ownership issues on these articles. We are an encyclopedia anyone can edit and we take that seriously. IPs are human too and they have the absolute right to edit unless they're being disruptive. I don't see that in this case. Neither does Airplaneman, and we have both been administrators for a long time. Unless there are serious, repeated BLP violations or repeated vandalism, take my advice and don't ask us about these articles for a while. Katietalk 01:40, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@KrakatoaKatie: Ok thank you! I was trying to confirm and clarify the things and nothing else! I'm not trying to contradict you in any way either! Not necessarily I agree with your decision but I obviously respect any decision taken by you because you are an administrator whereas I'm not so your decision is final... So don't misunderstand! Anyway it's sorted as it is now! Thanks for the help! 😃 Cricket246 (talk) 09:27, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Airplaneman: Thanks a lot for your help! You are always so helpful! Can you please tell me the process how I can request a review for the article to obtain a higher status for it after some more work on it? Cricket246 (talk) 09:36, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cricket246: Please speak with the admin who made the decision when you try to "confirm and clarify things". You did indeed do that, albeit in a way that came off as disingenuous (as explained by Katie at the beginning of her post). By additionally posting on my talk page, you made it seem like you were unsatisfied with Katie's decision to the point that you were hoping that I would make a different one to override hers. I hope you understand that this is what we had a problem with, and that confirming and clarifying is fine to do. Check out peer review for article feedback. I warn you that there's quite a big backlog there (as there has been for many years) so it may take some time before your request is filled. All the best, Airplaneman 18:40, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I wrote in your talkpage almost 4 hours before I saw Katie's decision!! I wrote in your page (earlier when there was no response to my request) so that you might take a look at my request!! 4 hours later I posted on Katie's talkpage when I saw her response to my request for the protection!! So these 2 posts are completely unrelated and I've been terribly misunderstood by both of you here... Its just two different posts at two different times and never intended to be linked to one other!! I just wrote here way back so that you see my request and Katie hadn't responded there that time... Four hours later, when Katie responded I saw it and wrote on her page to clarify the matter!! These two can't just be linked and there was no question of any expectation whatsoever of getting Katie's decision overruled... I have been terribly misunderstood here!! Interpretation of my posts by both of you has been absolutely wrong to be honest... Anyway I hope the matter is sorted now do don't want to drag this on and on!! 😃 But please don't misunderstand like this!! 😃 And thanks for the information on peer review... I intend to do some more work on the contents of the page to improve it and then I will make a request for peer review... No problem in waiting... When time comes someone will surely have a look at it... Thanks for helping!! Cricket246 (talk) 18:56, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cricket246: My apologies; I misread the timestamps. Happy editing, Airplaneman 19:00, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No problem Airplaneman!! Never mind!! Misunderstandings happen!!! No big issue... We are all acting as a team with a common goal of improving Wikipedia and I hope that goes on!! Best wishes for all your duties as an administrator!! Will ping you for some more times if I need to know about any process!! Thanks!!! 😃 Cricket246 (talk) 19:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Airplaneman,

The editing from this page has continued to be disruptive past your protection period... Would you consider protecting it again with a longer duration? Thanks. MeowMoon (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@MeowMoon: I've protected it for another week. All the best, Airplaneman 22:04, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What a lovely name

Came across you at RPP. What a lovely name (almost out of a Disney movie, in a good sense). I forget to mention, my closest cousin used to call himself that. So this note. Ciao Lourdes 15:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lourdes: Thank you! And nice to meet ya. Who knows, maybe I'm your closest cousin's long lost twin… Airplaneman 15:19, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ha ha ha ha. Yes. True that. You don't want to be him. The family can only withstand one of him :D Lourdes 15:36, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be sure to stay away! Airplaneman 15:46, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the PP. However I fear you arrived just a bit late. The article was blanked again and the version you have protected is the one that is being sharply condemned at ANI and elsewhere. There is no consensus in favor of blanking the article. Could you please restore the full version until after the AfD is finished? Thanks... -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ad Orientem, thanks for making the RFPP request. I do think full protection will help out here. What I'm not as sure about is restoring any said version of the page. From my cursory 20 minutes of reading into this argument, I'm not convinced that restoring the previous text would be helpful here, or that there is any consensus to do so. I think that's what discussion is for. Take a look at the template note I've left at the top of the page; WP:WRONGVERSION also applies here. I've got to head out, otherwise I would spend some more time trying to understand what's going on. I'd like to add that I really appreciate the effort you and others are putting into this. I think it's an important topic that deserves close attention. Best, Airplaneman 17:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]