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This article has been mentioned by a media organization: Andy Robinson (July 20, 2011). "Saints Row porn-swaps Tera Patrick for Sasha Grey". Computer and Video Games.

According to her blog, she was on CBS. Can anyone confirm this?

A: Yes. She was interviewed on the TV show 'The Insider' which runs on CBS. It's been posted on YouTube.

A: Yes. She has a much more indepth and current interview on VBS.TV in the shot by Kern section. Unfortunately this site was deemed as spam for a yet to be declared reason. Should be noted that Sasha Grey's website links to this interview, and is the only link on her site besides her myspace blog, where she links to the same VBS.TV interview.

______________ Is she catholic or agnostic? (see her Myspace page)

A Brazilian magazine, EleEla, says that she was born in Fortaleza, Brazil. http://eleela.terra.com.br/aberto/423/artigo40652-1.htm?o=r (in Portuguese)

It appears she is no longer under management for her "mainstream affairs" with The Spread Group which is verified in two different sources, the management website http://www.thespreadgroup.com/ and her personal twitter page now states otherwise. CP30777 (talk)CP30777

-No,not Brazilian.- No. According to her own website (accessed 9.13.11) she was indeed born in California. ~ b

Portugese Wikipedia says that Sasha have Jew ascendence.See pt:Sasha Grey .I'm interesting about it because could be possible since her mother is from Poland ascendence, and could be other distinctive aspect to put in her Biography. Some User can corroborate this infomation please? Vicond (talk) 04:37, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are those the same people who claims that she is Brazilian as well? Anyway, without a proper source it's a no-go. Nymf _hideliho! 07:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Her Greek ancestry comes from her paternal grandfather (her paternal grandmother was not Greek). Her maternal grandfather was half Polish at the most. The rest of her ancestry is Anglo-Saxon. So no, not Jewish. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose she wouldn't be considered Jewish by Orthodox standards, but there are (or were) Polish Jews and even Greek Jews. --anon. 71.183.134.249 (talk) 23:03, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have a sense of her band aTelecine has enough third party coverage to warrant its own article? Just thought I'd ask before starting one. Any reliable sources that should be checked out? Thanks.--Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 01:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't have enough coverage to justify a separate article. The coverage I've seen that mention the duo is focused on Sasha. Morbidthoughts (talk) 01:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aight, that's essentially what I've found too. Doesn't seem to have a lot of coverage in music-oriented media. Perhaps later if/when there is more third party sources.--Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 02:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not only does it not warrant a separate article, nothing that aTelecine has done meets Wikipedia's threshold for notability by a musical artist. DFS (talk) 01:15, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An IP changed the "Years active" field of the infobox to say that she was active from 2006 to 2011 instead of it saying "2006 to present". (diff) I reverted the edit with the edit summary saying "She's retired?". (diff) And User:Morbidthoughts reverted my edit while saying that her retirement is cited in the article. (diff)

So, how are we defining retired as far as the infobox is concerned? Yes, she retired from porn and that is in the article and it's cited. Though she has not retired from acting in general. According to IMDb, she has two films coming out in 2012 and another in 2013. Yes, I know about WP:RS/IMDB. Even so, I don't see anything that says that she has retired from acting in general. Her profession in the infobox is listed as simply "actress". It doesn't specify pornographic actress. So isn't it fair to say that she is still active as an actress? Additionally, a cursory search of GNews comes up with this article as the first hit wherein it says that she is to be in a Linda Lovelace biopic. The same film is listed on IMDb as the 2013 release that I referred to.

So how are we defining "retired" in this case? Dismas|^(talk) 05:34, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Completely had a braino there. Was operating under the assumption that the infobox was still the adult template. Morbidthoughts (talk) 06:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any sources for that? I don't recall ever seeing her rally for same-sex marriage/gay rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.152.126 (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most 'actors' on Wikipedia haven't acted in decades. They're still actors because they are depicted acting and are most known for their acting. I'd argue given all porn stars become former porn stars at some point that they are still indeed porn stars as long as their material is out there making them money and it is primarily what they are known for. Dita von Teese is a great example of buying your way to a clean slate, most people don't even know she starred in numerous hardcore porn films, and she will come up with all kinds of colorful self descriptives that avoid addressing the fact she was, first and foremost, a porn star.

Do we do an encyclopedia justice by white washing dirty little elements of peoples lives that they--personally--do not want to be a focal point, or do we represent the facts without emotive influence or bias? I personally think that this reflects an NPOV issue at it's core. I'm not an editor on this article, and thus ask it's current regulars to try and iron this out a bit and remember that first and foremost wiki is an encyclopedia, not a PR tool. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 09:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Although you don't state it explicitly, you imply a double standard, that the use of 'former' is somehow not used on the pages of mainstream actors, or more prevalent on the pages of porn actors. The following is from searching "site:wikipedia.org/wiki" on Google. You can go down the results and see from the titles and the sample text that these hits are clearly from the lede of these articles:

"former actor" = 537 results

"former pornographic actor" = 23 results

"former actress" = 809 results

"former pornographic actress" = 175 results

The results would be even more skewed against you by searching for the term 'retired.'

Other points:

"they are still indeed porn stars as long as their material is out there making them money..." Almost no pornographic actors make money on the films after they are produced. It's not that sort of business. It's not uncommon to see the bio of a porn actress say something like, "She did 500 films her first year in the business." The bookkeeping would crush them if they had to keep track of who was owed what. If the Hollywood studios were churning out this many films a day, they also would start paying people huge upfront, with no interests afterward.

"Dita von Teese is a great example of buying your way to a clean slate..." Her clean slate on WP not only mentions her porn background, but gives the names of the films so people can go see them for themselves.

"most people don't even know she starred in numerous hardcore porn films..." Most people don't know Harrison Ford was a carpenter. What's your point? Both facts are mentioned on their pages. Do you want the facts mentioned in the ledes? Or just von Teese's lede?

"and she will come up with all kinds of colorful self descriptives that avoid addressing the fact she was, first and foremost, a porn star." Ford gives interviews rarely, and when he does they're usually not about his life as a carpenter. But I guess to you that's what he was, first and foremost, and the implications is ALWAYS, and it's therefore some sort of terrible coverup that it's not mentioned more prominently on his page?

"Do we do an encyclopedia justice by white washing dirty little elements of peoples lives that they--personally--do not want to be a focal point..." If you came across this text on Harrison Ford's talk page, or on the page of anyone else who has changed careers, you would see how ridiculous you sound right now. You seem to think that having performed in pornography is a taint, that can never go away. Your reaction is similar to what most people would have if they came across a page where the subject was described as "a former murderer." Only, they would be justified in reacting that way. You are not.

"I personally think that this reflects an NPOV issue at it's core." The fault, dear BaSH PR0MPT, lies not in our wikis, but in ourselves. 173.58.37.123 (talk) 03:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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271 titles Andcoser (talk) 19:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done I updated the total in the infobox, since that's what I think you meant. Begoon ^talk 01:09, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why my edits were reverted. Andrea Diprè is the most important italian art critic, so his interview can be considered a turn of Sasha's career toward figurative art. These information should be present in her biography. --95.247.206.254 (talk) 15:04, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The English in that edit was only marginally comprehensible, and as such added nothing useful to the article. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please list grammar errors contained in that edit, thanks. Anyway, if you find syntactic errors, you should correct them and not delete all. The informations about figurative art are relevant, such as the sections books, acting and music. --95.247.206.254 (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not my job to fix garbled edits. I couldn't even make heads or tails of what point the edit was trying to make. Furthermore, there's nothing notable about the interview or the interviewer. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:50, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The current article states that Grey came from Oscar Wilde work The Portrait of Dorian Grey. However, in this video interview at the 18.45 mark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYeCIKYQB1k) in answer to the question of where her name came from, she says Grey was inspired by the Kinsey scale of sexuality, sometimes referred to as the Grey Scale.

Would it worth referencing this or editing the article accordingly?

2A02:22F8:1046:1003:0:0:0:2 (talk) 10:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I had heard (so far unsubstantiated; I cannot seem to find any real info on this...) reports that she underwent a male to female gender transition, and the presence of an "Adam's Apple" is supposed to back this up. Is there any validity to this claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.15.140 (talk) 02:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]