Initiated by EvergreenFir (talk) at 01:32, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• EvergreenFir (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), filing party
• Athaenara (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request

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Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

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Athaenara used an RFA to air her transmisogynist views ([3]) that are incompatible with the mission of Wikipedia, a violation of WP:UCOC, and the community trust granted to admins:

Oppose. I think the domination of Wikipedia's woman niche, for lack of a better term, by males masquerading as females as opposed to welcoming actual, genuine, real women who were born and have always been female, is highly toxic. Go ahead, "cancel" me, I don't care.

I request that Athaenara be desysopped per WP:LEVEL2. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:32, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a trans woman (and filer of the original WP:ANI thread), I don't feel safe having an administrator so openly pushing transphobic views such as this one. Thus, I would like to see this whole situation resolved, preferably with a desysop. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contribs)} 01:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a line that was crossed here. And yet, is somehow a product of society. But something does not make sense. Why, after 16 years, would you go out of your way to make a comment on an RFA this transphobic? The CheckUser did not come back with any sign of it being compromised. People are certainly open to hold their opinion, but this is a gross act by someone with the community's trust.

Transphobia is a giant no-no and with the problems we've faced through the 21 years of WP:BITE and the Gender Gap, this is a major smack in the face to have of all the effort we made on that regard. While the attacked party is certainly not a newbie, there is certainly a good reason to understand why the behavior of the accused here won't drive away other editors.

As someone who has been emergency desysopped for self-harm reasons, not only should ArbCom make sure the Admin powers are removed, but take the case and make sure that they do not return to the site. There is no place in the world for transphobia, let alone here.Mitch32^{(sail away with me to another world.)} 01:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Think I said all I needed to say at the ANI thread, but would like to note that I have checked Athenaera due to concerns about possible compromise. Based on technical data, I do not believe they are compromised. Happy to describe in more detail privately. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a question I want to ask here: Why? After nearly 16 years of editing and nearly 15 years of being an admin, Athaenara blatantly, carelessly uses transphobia in their statement. Not comfortable and not okay. And this proceeds violation of WP:NPA. Clearly, this admin wants to push transphobia, and actually, IMO, almost required to be desysopped. Sarrail (talk) 02:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prefacing my comment by saying that I haven't interacted with Athaenara throughout my time here so far. However, I just refuse to believe someone would throw 16 years of quality editing out the window from 1 comment, never mind one that was so out of the blue. This is clearly someone who is privy to Wikipedia policy and conduct, not just because of their position as an administrator, but from years of experience. I truly think more investigation is needed prior to a desysop. The block they have already received should give them time to reflect on their conduct (if it truly is them commenting), or if not, then a matter of possible compromise or otherwise can be sorted out.

16 years of editing should not be negated based off of 1 comment. It is a mistake; we have all said or done things we aren't proud of, either on Wikipedia or off-wiki, and have been given chances to try and make amends. A chance should be given here before nullifying such a great track record. One would expect the same if they erred and wished to go back to the way things were before the incident. There is more than meets the eye here, I believe. — That Coptic Guy (let's talk?) 02:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(on reflection, I suppose I might be a party? Since I blocked them? I hope not) While this is certainly no smoking gun, doing a ctrl-f for "Athaenara" in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour will show several comments that are consistent with this actually being Athaenara. Particularly "Another funny part of this to me is that I recall years ago checking the preferences thing about gender, because I'm a woman and don't care who knows it, and now find myself wondering if because of this some users will assume I'm really a guy pretending to be female because hormone issues, neurotic confusion, whatever, and it's just down a rabbit hole again. For the record: I'm not pretending to be anything." (emphasis added by me). I no longer believe this is a compromised account. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.

This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).

• Recuse - I commented in the discussion leading up to this and checkusered Athenaera to check whether they were compromised, so I think it would be best if I did not clerk this. GeneralNotability (talk)

Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)

• Recuse as INVOLVED given my nomination in the RfA which triggered this case request. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• The Committee is aware and is discussing the matter. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:59, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]