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*That's Google Books not Google Scholar, and Clube de Autores is a self-publishing service. I checked the index of Parker's ''The Thirty Years War'' (2006). No Klingenthal. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 20:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
*That's Google Books not Google Scholar, and Clube de Autores is a self-publishing service. I checked the index of Parker's ''The Thirty Years War'' (2006). No Klingenthal. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 20:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
*:I found it first via Google Scholar because I searched on Google Books initially only with the German term and with "Klingenthal 1642". Looks like this only mention is definitely not a reliable source. [[User:Palastwache|Palastwache]] ([[User talk:Palastwache|talk]]) 21:25, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
*:I found it first via Google Scholar because I searched on Google Books initially only with the German term and with "Klingenthal 1642". Looks like this only mention is definitely not a reliable source. [[User:Palastwache|Palastwache]] ([[User talk:Palastwache|talk]]) 21:25, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
*The list of 42 battles in {{harvnb|de Peyster|1884|pp=630–636}} has no Klingenthal. The second Breitenfeld battle is followed by the Surprise of Tuttlingen on 1643-11-24. No battle on on 1642-11-11 is listed. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 21:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
*The list of 42 battles in {{harvnb|de Peyster|1884|pp=630 Breitenfeld battle is followed by the Surprise of Tuttlingen on 1643-11-24. No battle on on 1642-11-11 is listed. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 21:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
** {{cite magazine|magazine=United Service: A Monthly Review of Military and Naval Affairs|title=The Thirty Years War|author1-first=J. Watts|author1-last=de Peyster|volume=11|date=December 1884|issue=6|pages=629–681}}
** {{cite magazine|magazine=United Service: A Monthly Review of Military and Naval Affairs|title=The Thirty Years War|author1-first=J. Watts|author1-last=de Peyster|volume=11|date=December 1884|issue=6|pages=629–681}}
* There's no Klingenthal to be found in either volume of [[Anton Gindely]]'s 1884 ''History of the Thirty Years' War'', which are FUTON and searchable. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 21:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
* There's no Klingenthal to be found in either volume of [[Anton Gindely]]'s 1884 ''History of the Thirty Years' War'', which are FUTON and searchable. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 21:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
::{{Yo|Uncle G}} just trying to help, it just appearred as if you had added content but forgot to sign (no big deal, it happens) but now it appears you wanted it that way. Were you trying to manually create the equivalent of a reftalk template? Just curious. - ''[[User:Thewolfchild|<span style="color: black">wolf</span>]]'' 04:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

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No reliable source given - the only stated source for the actual battle does not mention it (Vol. 4 of "The Cambridge Modern History" from 1906, see CHAPTER XIII. THE LATER YEARS OF THE THIRTY YEARS' WAR under http://mateo.uni-mannheim.de/camenaref/cmh/cmh.html#cmh4); probably a hoax Palastwache (talk) 18:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Addition: I' ve tried a Google books search and found no mention of a "battle of Klingenthal" (or in German "Schlacht bei Klingenthal") either. You may check for yourself. Palastwache (talk) 18:13, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Addition 2: Google Scholar lists [one mention] in a self-publishing book from 2020. The mention on page 117 reads like it was copied from Wikipedia: "After a brief continuation of the campaign that ended with the battle of Klingenthal, it allowed Sweden to occupy Saxony." Palastwache (talk) 20:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, and Sweden. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:55, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's Google Books not Google Scholar, and Clube de Autores is a self-publishing service. I checked the index of Parker's The Thirty Years War (2006). No Klingenthal. Uncle G (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I found it first via Google Scholar because I searched on Google Books initially only with the German term and with "Klingenthal 1642". Looks like this only mention is definitely not a reliable source. Palastwache (talk) 21:25, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The list of 42 battles in {{harvnb|de Peyster|1884|pp=630 Breitenfeld battle is followed by the Surprise of Tuttlingen on 1643-11-24. No battle on on 1642-11-11 is listed. Uncle G (talk) 21:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • de Peyster, J. Watts (December 1884). "The Thirty Years War". United Service: A Monthly Review of Military and Naval Affairs. Vol. 11, no. 6. pp. 629–681.
  • There's no Klingenthal to be found in either volume of Anton Gindely's 1884 History of the Thirty Years' War, which are FUTON and searchable. Uncle G (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Uncle G: just trying to help, it just appearred as if you had added content but forgot to sign (no big deal, it happens) but now it appears you wanted it that way. Were you trying to manually create the equivalent of a reftalk template? Just curious. - wolf 04:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]