Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 23

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 23, 2021.

Insomniac (magazine)

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The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 03:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Target page has no mention of the magazine. The magazine site (https://insomniacmagazine.com/about/) gives no indication of an affiliation. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 22:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Attached KML//Missouri Route 96

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per G6. Sorry Fastily, but this is one of the clearest examples of WP:G6's unambiguously created in error that I've ever come across. The error was acknowledged with the move and the double slash is problematic, especially for Template space. There is absolutely no reason this needs a full discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 00:11, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Originally nominated for speedy deletion by @1234qwer1234qwer4 with the reason "moved an hour after creation" FASTILY 22:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Attached KML//River Tame, Greater Manchester

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per G6. Sorry Fastily, but this is one of the clearest examples of WP:G6's unambiguously created in error that I've ever come across. The error was acknowledged with the move and the double slash is problematic, especially for Template space. There is absolutely no reason this needs a full discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 00:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Originally nominated for speedy deletion by @1234qwer1234qwer4 with the reason "moved minutes after creation" FASTILY 22:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Melania Lamarck

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 05:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be deleted. Now the unused redirect (was invalidly used in Melania (disambiguation)). Unique naming. Idea probably from Wikispecies Estopedist1 (talk) 21:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sweetest Girl

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Editors are invited to continue the discussion as an RM request. signed, Rosguill talk 19:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pageviews would suggest that Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) is the primary topic here. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 15:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See graph. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 15:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Sexuality of Frédéric Chopin

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section to which the redirect points has been deleted following an RfC at Frédéric_Chopin. The redirect is therefore inappropriate/ excessive. Therefore, delete this redirect page. Smerus (talk) 15:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Cenchrus (insect)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

misleading, not a taxon Estopedist1 (talk) 15:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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General Editors: Christopher Roden and Barbara Roden

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any value in this redirect. Nothing links to it, so I propose it is deleted. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I was technically the "creator" of this, but only in the sense that somebody else originally created the article at this title and then I moved it to its more correct title. At the time, we had a rule that redirects resulting from this type of page move always had to be kept as a core part of the article's edit history, but that's no longer the standard practice — the page move is adequately documented in the edit history of the target article, and this has no important history of its own outside of that, so there's no overarching reason to keep it if it isn't actually serving a useful purpose. Bearcat (talk) 14:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Bearcats explanation and implausible search term.Less Unless (talk) 22:01, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Factitious Airs

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The result of the discussion was Procedural Close. The subject of this discussion has been turned into a DAB page/article, so any further discussion belong at AfD. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Factitious Airs currently redirects to Nitrous Oxide. While "factitious air" has been used by Davy as an ancient term for nitrous oxide, it is actually a broader category of therapeutic gases. This redirect should be omitted and Factitious Airs should be a stand-alone page noting Thomas Beddoes and James Watt's pioneering work on hydrogene, hydrocarbonate, marsh gas, etc under the category of factitious airs SloppyTots (talk) 14:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You mean Factitious airs? You made it into a disambiguation page, so this should be reverted to a redirect or speedy closed in favor of an AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 14:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hydrocarbonate

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The result of the discussion was keep noting that editors also intend to start an article about a related topic and to discuss further what the primary topic is. signed, Rosguill talk 05:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

delete redirect to bicarbonate. Currently, hydrocarbonate is considered by some to be synonymous to hydrogen carbonate hence redirected to the bicarbonate page. Hydrocarbonate is a unique ancient chemistry term used by Thomas Beddoes, James Watt and other to describe a therapeutic gas derived from coal/coke. This is not bicarbonate. A new page for hydrocarbonate in this context warrants consideration. SloppyTots (talk) 14:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate My searches indicate that it could mean either hydrocarbon or bicarbonate, though the former usage is considered obsolete. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 14:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: the use as "hydrogen carbonate" is widespread even if you don't think it is strictly correct. The use to describe Beddoes therapeutic gas is obscure, obsolete, describes something that doesn't really exist, and has almost no mentions in Wikipedia. Certainly nowhere useful to point a redirect or dab page. If you're really really desperate to educate people and can find a sensible redirect target for the historical usage, then add a hatnote at carbonate. Lithopsian (talk) 14:35, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
the study of carbon monoxide as a neurotransmitter in the field of gasotransmitters and therapeutic application of carbon monoxide as through inhalation protocols and delivery of carbon monoxide-releasing molecules has stimulated research in innumerable academic labs and two pharmaceutical companies (proterris and hillhurst biopharma). With this in mind, as hydrocarbonate gas is essentially carbon monoxide, it is an important origin for modern biomedical pursuit. It is now understood carbon monoxide is an effective treatment for inflammation and tuberculosis; this was first recognized in the 1790s but had been lost in archives for 200 years due to the tendency to neglect older literature and discard it as obsolete. SloppyTots (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Uses throughout Wikipedia and scientific literature as a synonym for bicarbonate, albeit admittedly one with somewhat improper/obscure nomenclature. A stub for the gas topic has been reverted twice, hence this discussion, yet no need to delete the redirect if the issue is whether or not it should be turned into an article about a different topic. If sufficient reliable sources exist for the gas topic for it to pass WP:NOTABILITY muster, I think an article could be constructed at a qualified title like Hydrocarbonate (gas) then a requested move discussion could sort out whether or not there is a primary topic and how to best handle disambiguation. Alternatively, if the gas is really just carbon monoxide derived from coal, it seems like this could be discussed in a few sentences in an appropriate section at carbon monoxide with an {{R to section}} redirect at hydrocarbonate (gas) or similar. Either way, once there is content on the gas topic on WP with reliable sources, a redirect hatnote would then be appropriate at bicarbonate. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds reasonable. There are many papers on the therapeutic potential of Hydrocarbonate (gas) between 1794 and 1802. Carbon monoxide was discovered in 1800 hence Hydrocarbonate (gas) disappearing soon after. With that said, in recent years Hydrocarbonate (gas) primarily appears in papers by historians, but appearance in science literature is scarce. Its thought to be a mixture of CO and H2 (and probably other impurities being Coke (fuel)-derived) nevertheless CO is probably the most relevant bioactive agent. Therefore your suggestion to make note on the carbon monoxide page makes sense once the hydrocarbonate (gas) page has been developed. I should be able to develop a stub in a few days. SloppyTots (talk) 17:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:×

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nom (non-admin closure) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:57, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I find it confusing that these point to different targets, given that an editor might search for either of these with the same in mind. I would prefer Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Unit names and symbols as a target, though that could include a reference to the MOS:MATHS section. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I find it confusing that you're confused. What I mean is, they both seem to take me to the exact same place. Or are you confused by the differences of the R pages themselves (MOS mentions project pages, WP doesn't)? Possibly I'm overlooking some teensy (or ginormous) difference between the targets, but I'm not seeing it. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Add me to the list of confused people. Both of these redirects point to the same target. which is same as the target you propose, and have done since 2014. I'm obviously missing something, but I can't work out what? Thryduulf (talk) 17:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Socialist Party (Ireland) Elected Representatives

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 05:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused from 2014 move - no longer scope of the template so potentially misleading. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to allow the March 11th log page to be closed.
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Template:Silver Republican Party (United States)/meta/color

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. plicit 03:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary disambiguation; unused and will not be used; {{Silver Republican Party (United States)/meta/shortname}} deleted for a similar reason. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting to allow the March 11th log page to be closed.
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Workability

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wiktionary. Disambiguation is not out of the question, but consider Rosguill's concerns below. --BDD (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a generic term meaning "How easily a material can be worked", it doesn't exclusively refer to concrete. The term is also quite frequently used in woodworking to describe how difficult different species of wood are to shape, and in metalworking to describe how easy a given material can be machined or formed. I couldn't find an appropriate local target, so perhaps a soft redirect to it's Wiktionary entry would be appropriate? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: While consensus is leaning towards disambiguating, a draft has yet to be created. Relisting for further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:47, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The soft redirect solution seems like the best option, as the attempt to disambiguate is going to quickly run into problem that virtually any physical material used in construction or manufacturing could plausibly include a "Workability" section. signed, Rosguill talk 19:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Andersonia (Rubiaceae genus)

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Template:W-p

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unlinked template shortcut; no longer makes sense since {{Welcome-personal}} was merged to {{Welcome cookie}}. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:10, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of discharge

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BEFORE suggests that this mainly refers to military and hospital discharges, is is rarely/never used for this purpose. Hog Farm Talk 05:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Supercalafragilisticexpiealadoscious

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. plicit 03:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The only remaining misspelling redirect containing ie or -doscious. One of three remaining redirects with 4 spelling errors. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Miscellaneous Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious redirects with 5+ errors

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. plicit 03:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After processing the most erraticc errors, there were 4 redirects with 5 spelling errors, plus one (Supercalafragelisticexpialidoshis) with 6. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Supercalifragilisticoespialidoso

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The result of the discussion was keep. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only misspelling redirect not ending in s. It is also the only one where -fragilistic- is followed by o. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Supercalafregalisticexpialadociious

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The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only misspelling redirect containing either ii or fr followed by e. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Supercalafajalistickespeealadojus

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At an edit distance of 12, this is the absolute least accurate spelling. It is also the only one where f is not followed by r, and the only one containing either k or two j's. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Supercadrafristicexpealodocious

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The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only misspelling redirect that botches -cal-, as well as one of only two (out of 45) where fr is not followed by a vowel and then g. It has the third largest edit distance from the correct spelling (8). –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Suprercalafragalasticespealadoshes

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The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:57, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only that contains a misspelling within the first morpheme. It is also the second farthest from the correct spelling in edit distance (11), behind only Supercalafajalistickespeealadojus (12). –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

N.b.: The full list of misspelling redirects is available at User:LaundryPizza03/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:CONTEXTUALISATION

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Central Temple

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