Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who died in road accidents

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus As Kappa points out, it is at best unclear, from policy and the discussion below, whether "manner of death" is a defining characteristic meriting a category. The list is limited to notable people by virtue of its being in an encyclopedia -- a name change to reflect this is a choice left to talk page discussion. Given these two considerations, at least some of the deletion arguments below are weakened; and so, no consensus exists. Xoloz 14:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another list that is better served as a category, hundreds of thousands of people are killed in road accidents every year. See WP:LISTCRUFT, Delete Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Unmaintainable, shouldn't even be a category. Man It's So Loud In Here 20:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Unmaintainable and not very useful. --דניאל - Danielrocks123 20:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not very useful...unmaintainable and millions of people die from road accidents every year.--PrestonH 20:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Although it looks better than most of lists here I do not think it is maintainable now. It may be recreated when tag based system gets implemented by MediaWiki. Pavel Vozenilek 20:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per nom and we will have millions.It can be mentioned in there Bio if notable people.Harlowraman 22:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 22:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep They're all blue links, so the nonsensical, Carl Sagan style, "billions and billions" argument doesn't really apply. And unmaintainable? Geez, does a famous person die every day in a car wreck? I'll have to stay off the road. And yes, it is notable if a person died "before their time" because of a motor vehicle accident. This one is well-organized and encylopedic. I'll have to save it since the boo-birds are winning this one. Mandsford 22:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, per WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:NOT#INFO. Nenyedi • ^{(Deeds•Talk)} 22:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of people by cause of death and the fact that cause of death is not a defining characteristic, therefore it is not appropriate for a category. Kappa 23:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep and annotate further. Category and list should both be available for navigation. Having an existing category is never a reason to delete a list. Cause of death is very encyclopedic, and mentioned in every obituary. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 00:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep If 'It's Useful', which it is, is not an argument which can be used here, then why is 'it's not useful' justifiable as a reason for deletion? If it needs 'famous' to be put into the title to prevent it becoming a repository of 'billions and billions' of names so be it. Arguments saying that it is 'unmaintainable' are clearly false as it obviously is well maintained. The intersection of fast cars and fame is a common and legitimate topic of interest and is just the sort of information which wikipedia excels, or at least should excel, in providing. Nick mallory 00:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete It should be more maintainable in a category that a listcruft individual article.--JForget 02:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Loads of people die in car accidents, there is no need for a list. No need for a category. If the fact that they died in a car accident in notable or worth mentioning, it should be done in the article. i ^said 03:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I see no need to categorize people by the way of their passing. There is just way too many ways out there to die. Corpx 04:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - it will never be an accuarate or complete list; thus it can not be maintained. --Storm Rider ^(talk) 06:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  Why can't it be accurate? Kappa 11:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep it's very, uhm, odd, but the list is not arbitrary as long as it is limited to blue links of already notable deceased people. The annotations are sortable tables make it more useful than any category.-- danntm ^T _C 19:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It feels strange to be on the other side of a list afd, but famous people killed in cars is actually encyclopedic, IMO. Easy enough to verify and hardly arbitrary. Clarityfiend 22:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to List of notable people who died in road accidents. such lists should contain only notable entries. --SmokeyJoe 12:27, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.