User talk:Sean.hoyland

Khirbet 'Ein Karzaliyah (Arabic: خربة عين كرزلية), Jordan Valley: December 2013 - January 2014

Id'eis (Arabic: ادعيس), Jordan Valley: May 2014

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Regarding your comments in the Arb discussion, which is already giving me a headache, and from which I hope to stay away as much as humanly possible, despite my temptation to do otherwise. This is slightly inspired but some of the debates in and around the discussion, so credit goes to whoever wrote the ideas first :) Maybe this is both overcomplicated and a bad idea, but what about a “content board”, with elected 5 editors, 2 from each ‘faction’ and one uninvolved administrator, which can be involved to litigate complicated content decisions (as in, writing sentences for the article). The board would require a 4/1 majority for the content they create, and the solution would be subject to a yes/no RfC, with the special alteration that consensus against is required to prevent implementation. The voting requirements might help remedy this real-world problem, the fixed balance would make sock-puppets significantly less effective, the bickering about RfC options might be lower than it is now, and it gets additional legitimacy in case of media scrutiny. In addition, this sort of process is almost impossible to disrupt, because much of the “outrage”-based issues are harder to apply against a panel, the benefit to impacting voting for members of the panel does very little because the desired balance is already set, and trying to sock-puppet your way into consensus against a solution (instead of a no-consensus or normal talk page disruption/edit warring) requires a lot more effort. The only problem I still have is how to figure out who can vote for and be a member of each “faction”, particularly with those editors (to be fair, pretty rare in this area) without at least a mild POV. The main draw-back is speed, but many of those edit wars are months or years in the making, so I’m less concerned about that. What do you think? FortunateSons (talk) 16:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a bad ideas machine in my head that never shuts up, a constant intrusive stream of 'what if...' nonsense, with a good original idea that actually works about once a decade. I look forward to age quietening it down. So, it's always a relief to look at someone else's bad ideas. However, on first read, I think this might be a good idea. I'll have a proper look tomorrow. Sean.hoyland (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you got one too? Always nice to meet members of the club.

Thank you very much, I’m looking forward to it! FortunateSons (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I'll need to let this marinate for a while. Sean.hoyland (talk) 09:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don’t worry, I’ll be spending the next days running through multiple cities, no problem at all if it takes a while :) FortunateSons (talk) 09:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]