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In future please don't leave warnings on the talk pages of responsible editors such as myself for reverting vandalism and enforcing policies. Afterwriting (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver gave a good answer, but as an FYI, the research documentation for the VisualEditor test is public and has a pretty clear list of the research questions plus metrics. I think that might answer your question. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 19:07, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there,

It seems that your bot SDPatrolBot has asked for speedy deletion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arun_Budhathoki. I kindly request to avert the decision as it's about an emerging Nepali poet from Nepal and all the sources are genuine. Please help instead to improve it. Thank you very much

regards Daniel Song 10:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dansong22 (talk • contribs)

Seems this has been dealt with - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

	The Technical Barnstar
	For making User:SDPatrolBot, back online after a bit of a hiatus. Excellent bot, saves a lot of work. Also, SDPatrolBot's talk page is very surreal... Howicus (talk) 01:11, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Howicus. Hopefully should be able to keep the bot running slightly more consistently now. Haha, yes I should probably archive those year old messages - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I closed the deletion discussion for Alexander Montagu, 13th Duke of Manchester as a delete with the creation of a redirect (due to legal issues with the Duke's title, we're discussing whether the redirect is appropriate). I created Alexander Montagu, 13th Duke of Manchester with a soft redirect as part of my closure of the deletion discussion and all was well, until it was improperly tagged by a relatively new editor. I tried to remove the CSD tag as the page is a result of a deletion discussion and speedy deletion is inappropriate, but was reverted by your bot and warned, this happened again (I assumed the bot wouldn't revert me a second time, but it did). I considered disabling the bot at this point, as it was interfering with part of the closure of an AfD, but decided against it, instead choosing to protect the page in order to prevent SDPatrolBot from making an edit. I realise this is a most unusual set of circumstances, but I thought I would raise it here for a couple of reasons, mainly to let you know in case there are errors that leave you a little confused, and also to see if there are ways to avoid adding back CSD templates on redirects created as a result of an AfD. Apologies if all of that is gibberish, it's late and I'm tired, just ask if you need to know more. Cheers, Nick (talk) 23:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nick. Generally in this kind of case my advice is simply to sit tight and wait for someone else to remove the tag, and not worry too much about it in the meantime. However, this particular scenario is actually quite common, so the bot does have a check to restrict it from replacing CSD templates removed by the creator of the page, if the page was created as the result of a page move (leaving a redirect behind). In this case, I see that you actually originally deleted the page without leaving a redirect, and then manually placed a soft redirect on the article. I assume that was in order to use a soft redirect instead of a normal one (although I'm not quite sure why you opted for that?) but in the future leaving a redirect behind during the deletion process would prevent this issue. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The page had a bit of an unusual history, there's a question hanging over whether we should call Alexander the 13th Duke and during the AfD, the page was moved by someone else from Alexander Montagu, 13th Duke of Manchester to Alexander Montagu, which was the page with all the history that I deleted, the redirect was moved to 13th Duke of Manchester as that has the history stemming from the page move and at one point I considered that the more likely page to survive. The current soft redirect at Alexander Montagu, 13th Duke of Manchester is intended to be a temporary measure whilst a decision is made and if necessary, templates and succession boxes are updated. Yes, I'm slightly regretting closing the AfD. Nick (talk) 08:58, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, sounds a little complicated. This is why "housekeeping" moves scare me ;) - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 19:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey.. I today only found about SDPatrolBot while doing some NPP. It's excellent and saves effort to keep track of users removing CSD tag from articles created by themselves. Thanks for bring it online again.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Vigyani, glad you like it - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 03:34, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It appears that your bot does not archive WP:RFPERM. Please check it. Thanks. Zyma (talk) 20:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I was on holiday though, so the bot has been running now since I got back. Cheers, - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 09:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're listed as an active member of the Bot Approvals Group. I would like to draw your attention to the outstanding WP:BRFA requests (including requests that are specificly flagging as need BAG attention). Please take a few minutes out of your busy schedule and take a look at the open requests. Thank you Hasteur (talk) 18:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingpin13! Once again, there are quite a few Requests for bot approval that are awaiting BAG assistance. Would you be willing to look at some of these? Thanks in advance! GoingBatty (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm stopped to do whitespace editing. Vanquisher (talk) 11:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

First, I still owe you a response on Dr. Allan Schore's work - please give me more time as I am trying to get past a term of grad school.

My reason for writing this is because I have run into a snag with proper citation syntax. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prontosil I added information regarding the usage of Prontosil in the United States and had two references. The link seemed to work fine but the book did not. The book's APA Style cite is: Chandler, C.A. (1950). Famous Men of Medicine. New York: Dodd, Mead & Co.

I'm not exactly sure how to "embed" the source. I needed more time to read through the help pages but its 3am here and I need to go.

Could you please double-check this page for me and let me know it is all right. I'll then go back and see what you did for my reference. I kept looking for an add 'reference footnote' link or something to that affect. I am spoiled with EndNote, I guess.

THANK YOU!!!! - vaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weechva (talk • contribs) 06:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. If you write any code towards such a bot, please reply there. :) If you need someone to host and run any .NET bot that you write, just ask there: I suspect that someone will volunteer. —Unforgettableid (talk) 04:43, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re adding Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Template editor the bot's list of permission request pages to archive. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 22:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

^Seconded :) I came to request the same thing. We've got a new permission page at WP:PERM for template editor. Thanks in advance Kingpin13. equazcion → 20:26, 18 Oct 2013 (UTC)

Just saw the first archiving -- Thanks :) equazcion → 01:35, 19 Oct 2013 (UTC)

No problem, thanks both for the heads up on the new right. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 01:37, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests#New REFBot for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with other projects? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 10:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have received a message and a threat from this user (bot?) for alleged vandalism dating back to 2009. The vandalism is on pages I haven't even read, let alone edited. I certainly wasn't on this IP back then. Kindly fix your defective bot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.208.229 (talk) 08:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	This is a awesome article... My sincere Congratulations! Blogger 20 (talk) 19:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

	The Resilient Barnstar
	Thank you for being such a heavy worker! Blogger 20 (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingpin13. I think that WikiAlerter is pretty nifty and I would like to try it out. Could I participate in the beta? Thanks, -24^Talk 22:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingpin13 I am interested in patrolling new pages with WikiAlerter tool, can you please grant me permission. Thank you. —Sadat (Masssly)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:14, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:PERM/RV. User:Armbrust has noted that KingpinBot removed some requests but didn't put them in the archive. The above bot action was on 26 September. The last day on which KingpinBot put anything in the archives is 19 September. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi...I would like to try out WikiAlerter in new page patrolling. Thanks.Rijin ^Talk 10:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingpin, noticed that ListManBot hasn't alphabetised the MediaWiki:Bad image list for a while? Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Callanecc, thanks for the prod. I think the bot is still running, there's just nothing to fix on the page (it is still alphabetical). - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 17:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This bot stopped running on 2 November. Any updates as to why or when it will or if it will be fixed? Manually archiving at WP:PERM is going to suck. Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the bot is still going strong, just slightly less regularly (especially over the week). I might post the source code at some point if things get too bad, but for the time being I'm still managing to run it (I think) sufficiently. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 19:36, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Re. 19:22, 20 February 2010 Kingpin13 (talk | contribs) deleted page Sir Ian Morrow (G3: Vandalism). I was going to create this page and found your details. I find it odd that any page about this individual would have been deleted. I would appreciate receiving further info and perhaps a copy of the page as it existed prior to deletion. Thanks Graemp (talk) 13:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingpin,

Noyster asked on the bot requests board about SDPatrolBot and whether it, or something like it, could be revived. If you can't or don't want to take on the job yourself I'll happily do so, but it's only right that I ask you first! – Reticulated Spline ^{(t • c)} 12:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would you nudge KingpinBot to restart archiving at WP:PERM? Thank you, — xaosflux ^Talk 17:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Kingpin13! You are receiving this message because you are subscribed at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers

I have recently launched a new downloads for beta testers that contains nightly builds of huggle, eg. versions that are built every day from our master branch and contains latest huggle. These builds are currently provided only for Windows and Ubuntu. You can find them here: http://huggle.wmflabs.org/builds/

Please keep in mind that these don't have any automatic updates and if you download and start using nightly build, you will need to update it yourself! So don't get yourself to running old version, it's possible to install both stable and nightly huggle, which is what I suggest.

Keep the bug reports coming to phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle Many thanks! Petrb (talk) 09:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingpin13, I work on WP:NPP very often and also use STiki for vandalism. Request approval for WikiAlerter as it will help me in monitoring WP:NPP and will also increase the speed. Kindly consider. Thanks Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 10:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingpin13, I patrol the new pages and the recent changes. The wikiAlerter can help me doing my job quickly and covering more articles. Please grant me permission to use it. Thanks. --- Mahensingha _{(Talk) "Thanx n Regards"} 14:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey i want to offer my help support and contribution with monitoring and moderating Wikipedia , and i believe Wikialerter Can help me do it better and more efficiently , thank you --NikeThyrsus (talk) 15:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KingpinBot 3 indicates that you got a bot that clears blocked users from [[ Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues]] and perhaps some similar categories, but these categories are chock full of indefinitely blocked users. Could you get this bot working again, please? Further discussion at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269#Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues Oiyarbepsy (talk) 14:43, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingpin13,

I recently received a warning for supposedly writing profanity on the page of Brian Eno. I had never heard of Brian Eno before, and certainly never edited the page about him. I'm not sure how you detect profanity and issue your warnings, but it is apparently flawed. I don't much appreciate receiving warnings for things I haven't done, and I am sure that most other people wouldn't either, so please amend your methods to prevent this happening in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.182.119 (talk) 14:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

— MusikAnimal ^talk 00:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Taking you up on the offer to port your code to Ruby, if you're still okay with it! Please send via Special:EmailUser/MusikAnimal or however you prefer. I have my own ideas for development approach but want to be consistent with yours as it's rock solid and is rarely if ever glitchy :) Many thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 02:03, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kingpin, I see the KingpinBot hasn't archived Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage for quite a while. I've tried to make sure they're all consistent - but it's giving an error... any chance you could look at it? Worm^TT(talk) 08:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Worm That Turned: It's complaining about the comment in the "Bots" section, which I added as I observed a user add a request incorrectly. The "Users" section has this same comment, but I guess the bot checks only for that and thinks the "Bots" comment is an actual request. Anyway, it shouldn't stop it from archiving, I believe the bot is simply not running at the moment. As Kingpin knows I've been working on MusikBot to take over archiving, and it's ready to go but awaiting trial. Not sure how long before a trial will be approved, so if Kingpin you do get this message please give your bot a go! Many thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:36, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The trail has been approved. I'm going to give my bot a spin! Hope it works as good as yours does! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and MusikAnimal ^talk 18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
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Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Nosubjectline, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Nosubjectline and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Nosubjectline during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Elvey^(t•c) 04:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

→Σσς. (Sigma) 06:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingpin13 I am interested in patrolling new pages with WikiAlerter tool, can you please grant me permission. Thank you. —Mmhuang (Mmhuang)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:55, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BAG News August 2016

Greetings Bot Approvals Group member! Please take a moment to review and update your status at the membership page. If you have been semi-inactive, we would love to have you back in action! We currently have 15 active bot requests at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval, and could use your help reviewing and approving! If you have not already, you may want to consider adding Wikipedia:BAG/Status to your watchlist, it is a bot generated list of all in progress requests. For general BAG discussion, please stop by Wikipedia talk:Bot Approvals Group. Thank you! — xaosflux Talk 23:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply] (You can unsubscribe from future BAG Spam by removing your name from this list.)

Hi Kingpin13, do you plan on resurrecting any of ListManBot's tasks? If not - does it still need to hold +sysop access? (or even +bot if it is going in to retirement). — xaosflux ^Talk 05:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully some of it's tasks will shortly be taken over by another bot (Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_permissions#New_bot_task_for_AWB_pages), feel free to desysop, I can always request resysop if I do in some distant future revive it. Not much point removing the bot flag to be honest. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 16:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After reading the description of WikiAlerter, I am interested in giving it a try. Here's my CSD log if you want to look at it. Thanks, Gluons12 ^☢|☕ 01:01, 8 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Hello,

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Hi Kingpin13.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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• When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
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Arbitration

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Greetings! The BAG Newsletter is now the Bots Newsletter, per discussion. As such, we've subscribed all bot operators to the newsletter. You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list. Highlights for this newsletter include: Arbcom Magioladitis ARBCOM case has closed. The remedies of the case include: Community encouraged to review common fixes Community encouraged to review policy on cosmetic edits Developers encouraged to improve AWB interface Bot approvals group encouraged to carefully review BRFA scope Reminders/Restrictions specific to Magioladitis BRFAs We currently have 27 open bot requests at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval, and could use your help processing! Discussions There are multiple ongoing discussions surrounding bot-related matters. In particular: RFC on COSMETICBOT Efforts at WP:CHECKWIKI to identify cosmetic fixes Requested move for the Bot Owners' Noticeboard A phabricator ticket T162685 has been made to have a "bots" tag, so issues related to bot frameworks can be tracked New things Several new things are around: A BAG Guide has been created (WP:BAGG, discussion). Users now have the option to hide AWB from their watchlists via a script (WP:HIDEAWB, discussion) The guidance on how to deal with bot issues has been overhauled (WP:BOTISSUE, discussion) The bot policy has been updated to clarify that bot operators are required to register accounts. (WP:BOTACCOUNT, discussion) Wikimania Wikimania 2017 is happening in Montreal, during 9–13 August. If you plan to attend, or give a talk, let us know! Thank you! edited by:Headbomb 11:35, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] (You can unsubscribe from future newsletters by removing your name from this list.)

Hello Kingpin13. Since you seem to be the one who applied recent oversight at Talk:Electromagnetic hypersensitivity, it is possible that you could also help for my request at User talk:Julia W#Electromagnetic hypersensitivity talk page. Thank you, —PaleoNeonate - 02:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This issue is now resolved. Thank you, —PaleoNeonate - 08:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And, I noticed that you have a nice nickname, I have a guitar that is also named that way, the Godin Kingpin . Farewell, —PaleoNeonate - 09:12, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, July 2017

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I rethought about the block you issued to me. I think it was complete nonsense to block me when I was not making new comments but instead was trying to fix an already written comment my me. Please reconsder to be more careful next time. This though came to me while reading Milgram experiment. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:11, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Magioladitis, I understand that you feel more slack should have been given to you since you were only modifying comments you already made rather than adding new ones. This is exactly what I did in this case, I gave you a final warning about participating in that discussion, when you then went on to modify a previous comment you made, instead of blocking immediately for continuing after my warning, I decided to give you a second warning in which I made it clear I intended such modifications of comments to be covered by my warning, as I thought perhaps this wasn't clear to you the first time I warned (hence why you continued to violate the ban despite the warning). You then went on to make further modifications to comments despite being explicitly warned about it. It should be obvious that modifying your comments still constitutes participation in the discussion and hence would be restricted by your ban, but I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt anyway in the form of a second warning, a courtesy which you then expended. I don't really see the relevance to the Milgram experiment myself, but perhaps that is open to interpretation. All the best - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:11, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the Milgram experiment, people caused serious injury and distress to others obeying to instructions (see policies) they were given. I think the rules are here to serve the community to cooperate within a healthy environment. It is my belief that reworking my comments was serving that. On the other hand, the block did not. Best, Magioladitis (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Kingpin. I had the pleasure recently of receiving a barnstar for my reviewing of new pages in the past year, and just now I realised the superimposed image is that of two pawns. Is the choice of pawns acerbic wit on your part? Or am I just being tetchy. Either way I appreciate the accolade . Mark^Dask 17:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, March 2018

Greetings! Here is the 5th issue of the Bots Newsletter (formerly the BAG Newletter). You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list. Highlights for this newsletter include: ARBCOM Magioladitis 2 happened, leading to further restrictions on Magioladitis (decision, summary). Betacommand 3 was proposed to be amended to lift the indefinite ban on Δ, but was unsuccessful (decision). A motion concerning Crosswiki issues (mostly concerning Wikidata) was passed (see discussion). BAG Hersfold was removed from the BAG due to long term inactivity. BRFAs We currently have 6 open bot requests at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval, and could use your help processing! Discussions While there were no large-scale bot-related discussion in the past few months, you can check WP:BOTN and WT:BOTPOL (and their corresponding archives) for smaller issues that came up. New things WP:BOTDICT, a dictionary of common bot-related terms (see discussion). 6 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion). The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey happened. Two bot-related proposal passed, #6 deploy Article Alerts to other languages and #10 Commons deletion notification bot, although other entries may affect bots as well. Category:Wikipedia bots and its subcategories has had some cleanup. Bot-related pages that were historically important but are no longer of interests can be found in Category:Wikipedia bots (historical) The edit summary limit has been increased to 1000 characters (see T6715). If a bot you operate relied on the old truncation limit (255 characters), please review/update your code, as overly long summaries can be disruptive/annoying. If you want to use extra characters to have more information in your edit summary, please do so intelligently. You will soon be able to ping users from the edit summary (see T188469). If you wish to use this feature in your bot, please do so intelligently. Upcoming HTML Tidy will be phased out in June 2018, or possibly earlier. This may affect some bots (see FAQ). Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 03:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I appreciate your kind words in the AN/I discussion regarding the inappropriate removal of my NPP rights. It is nice to know there is at least one person out there who realizes this site can only work if we follow the rules, rather than make them up in a capricious manner. And Adoil Descended (talk) 14:55, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, not quite what I'm saying, but thanks. I would caution you against too much wikilawyering, as someone else mentioned at AN/I. It's easy with all the rules that exist on Wikipedia to forget that at the end of the day, they are just what people have written down about what they think is the right way to do things, and they can be trumped by what the community decides is the best way to handle a particular case. All the best anyway, - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then perhaps we need a few people who are willing to speak out and remind folks that there is a difference between following clearly specified laws and making up rules as you go along. It is no wonder why so many people sour on Wikipedia and cease contributing, not to mention why there are several sites devoted solely to highlighting the many, many faults of the site and its participants. And Adoil Descended (talk) 15:13, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, August 2018

Greetings! Here is the 6th issue of the Bots Newsletter. You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list. Highlights for this newsletter include: ARBCOM Nothing particular important happened. Those who care already know, those who don't know wouldn't care. The curious can dig ARBCOM archives themselves. BAG There were no changes in BAG membership since the last Bots Newsletter. Headbomb went from semi-active to active. In the last 3 months, only 3 BAG members have closed requests - help is needed with the backlog. BOTREQs and BRFAs As of writing, we have... 24 active BOTREQs, please help if you can! 5 open BRFAs and 3 BRFAs in need of BAG attention (see live status). 54 approved bot tasks since the start of 2018. Of note, Community Tech bot 5 (the #10 Wish on the 2017 Community Survey) was approved to notify users concerning problematic images and files from Wikimedia Commons. Also If you're a bot operator that can help with Tidy/Linter error cleanup (see discussion, discussion), please file a BRFA! 8 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion, discussion, discussion). Discussions These are some of the discussions that happened / are still happening since the last Bots Newsletter. Many are stale, but some are still active. Use of tags by bots – Exploring the use of a new 'bot' tag. Mass page moves – Bot policy question/clarification about mass moves. Creation of redirects – Bot policy question/clarification about the creation of redirects. Guidance on disruptive use of semi–automated tools? – Related to meatbots (see also MOS discussion, which resulted in small addition to MOS:VAR). Discussion concerning WP:BOTFLAG/WP:RC – A reminder that bots should use the bot flag when it makes sense to use it (see also VPT discussion and CREATEBOT update). Out of curiosity... (to all bot operators) – BotPasswords vs OAuth usage amongst bot operators. Introducing Toolhub – Toolhub is looking for feedback. New things {{Automated tools}}, a new template linking to user-activated tools and scripts has been created. It can be used in articles previews, and can be placed on any non-mainspace page/template (e.g. {{Draft article}}) to provide convenient links to editors. AWB 5.10.0.0 is out, after nearly 20 months without updates. If you run an old version, you will be prompted to install the new version automatically. See the changelog for what's new. Note that the next version will require .NET Framework 4.5. Many thanks to Reedy and the AWB team. BotWatch, "a listing of editors that have made >2 edits per minute [without] a bot flag", is being developed by SQL (see discussion). Massive updates and improvements have been made to Citation bot in the past few months (see discussions, discussions, discussions). You can activate the bot here, amongst other methods. HTML Tidy has been phased out (see Tech News #28). {{Newbot}} has been reorganized a bit (diff). In particular, it links to previously approved BRFAs (see discussion). Wikipedia:Bots#See also has been reorganized a bit (diff). The bot dictionary has two new entries, context bot and context-sensitive edit. The bot request header has been updated to include better guidance (see discussion). The subcategories of Category:Wikipedia bot requests for approval have been sorted in a consistent manner to make past BRFAs easier to find. Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 15:04, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chicken_Lips. Scarpy (talk) 16:35, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested that the {{WikiProject Soil}} project tag be added to article talk pages in 39 categories. Project notification is posted. If KingpinBot is available, I would appreciate your review and consideration of the request. Much appreciated. -- Paleorthid (talk) 23:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Followup - I also asked bot operators Legoktm (talk · contribs) and Magioladitis (talk · contribs) for review and consideration of my project tagging request. -- Paleorthid (talk) 17:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CSD-warn has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ^{[Username Needed]} 11:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Greetings! Here is the 7th issue of the Bots Newsletter, a lot happened since last year's newsletter! You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list. Highlights for this newsletter include: ARBCOM Nothing of note happened. Just like we like it. BAG Several (1 + 12 = 13) users have been retired/resigned from the BAG due to inactivity, per our new activity requirements (discussion). BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the pulse of the community. After two years without any bot-related activity (such as posting on bot-related pages, posting on a bot's talk page, or operating a bot), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice. Retired members can re-apply for BAG membership as normal if they wish to rejoin the BAG. Two BAG members retired Madman (talk · contribs) retired. BU Rob13 (talk · contribs) vanished and retired. Three new BAG members have been voted in, welcome to the BAG! Primefac (talk · contribs) joined on 2018-12-12 (RfBAG). Primefac operates PrimeBOT (talk · contribs) which does a plethora of tasks. TheSandDoctor (talk · contribs) joined on 2019-01-21 (RfBAG). TheSandDoctor operates several bots including DeprecatedFixerBot (talk · contribs). Enterprisey (talk · contribs) joined on 2019-08-07 (RfBAG). Enterprisey operates EnterpriseyBot (talk · contribs), which does a plethora of tasks, RemindMeBot (talk · contribs) which posts reminders, and codes several scripts. We thank former members for their service and wish Madman a happy retirement. We note that Madman and BU Rob13 were not inactive and could resume their BAG positions if they so wished, should their retirements happens to be temporary. BOTDICT Two new entries feature in the bots dictionary Editor-hostile wikitext – describes wikitext structuring that is editor hostile, even if it renders correctly Spectrum of usefulness – describes how tasks are deemed useful or not BOTPOL Activity requirements: BAG members now have an activity requirement. The requirements are very light, one only needs to be involved in a bot-related area at some point within the last two years. For purpose of meeting these requirements, discussing a bot-related matter anywhere on Wikipedia counts, as does operating a bot (RFC). Copyvio flag: Bot accounts may be additionally marked by a bureaucrat upon BAG request as being in the "copyviobot" user group on Wikipedia. This flag allows using the API to add metadata to edits for use in the New pages feed (discussion). There is currently 1 bot using this functionality. Mass creation: The restriction on mass-creation (semi-automated or automated) was extended from articles, to all content-pages. There are subtleties, but content here broadly means whatever a reader could land on when browsing the mainspace in normal circumstances (e.g. Mainspace, Books, most Categories, Portals, ...). There is also a warning that WP:MEATBOT still applies in other areas (e.g. Redirects, Wikipedia namespace, Help, maintenance categories, ...) not explicitely covered by WP:MASSCREATION. BOTREQs and BRFAs As of writing, we have... 20 active BOTREQs, please help if you can! 14 open BRFAs and 1 BRFA in need of BAG attention (see live status). In 2018, 96 bot task were approved. An AWB search shows approximately 29 were withdrawn/expired, and 6 were denied. Since the start of 2019, 97 bot task were approved. Logs show 15 were withdrawn/expired, and 15 were denied. 10 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion). 5 other bots have been deflagged per operator requests or similar (see discussion). New things All bot-related discussion pages now have a centralized and searchable archive box (see discussion). Discussions are searchable per noticeboard, or globally. {{Bot}} now supports |status=expired (see discussion). This led to the deletion of Category:Indefinitely blocked Wikipedia bots as useless (see discussion). WP:BOTREQ now mentions WP:SCRIPTREQ and WP:AWBTASKS as alternatives to bot requests. The bot creation guide now mentions bot flags, and two new languages Awk and MATLAB. Other minor tweaks have been made. AAlertBot has received major code updates. In particular, WP:AALERTS will now report splits, mergers, and AFC submissions. Citation bot has received several updates (User talk:Citation bot/Archive 10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17). In particular, the bot stopped the automated removal of |publisher= from {{cite journal}}, and stopped the automated addition of CiteSeerX links, and now uses OAuth to authenticate those who make requests of the bot. Other discussions These are some of the discussions that happened / are still happening since the last Bots Newsletter. Many are stale, but some are still active. Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Adminbots requests page Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Double-redirect tagging (2019) Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Long and Winding Road to Parsoid Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Bot-like user scripts Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#WP:URLREQ Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Wikipedia:Bots/Status Wikipedia talk:Bot Approvals Group#Minimum edits Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Minor update to WP:BOTISSUE Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Semi-automated Portal creation Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Clarification on "Bots operated by multiple users" Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Bots triggered by multiple users Wikipedia talk:Bots#How to use Special:ApiFeatureUsage See also the latest discussions at the bot noticeboard. Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 17:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

Could I be added to WikiAlerter please? Thank you! HeartGlow30797 (talk) 22:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Established policy provides for removal of the administrative permissions of users who have not made any edits or logged actions in the preceding twelve months. Because you have been inactive, your administrative permissions will be removed if you do not return to activity within the next month.

Inactive administrators are encouraged to rejoin the project in earnest rather than to make token edits to avoid loss of administrative permissions. Resources and support for reengaging with the project are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/administrators. If you do not intend to rejoin the project in the foreseeable future, please consider voluntarily resigning your administrative permissions by making a request at the bureaucrats' noticeboard.

Thank you for your past contributions to the project. — JJMC89 bot 00:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Graphs are unavailable due to technical issues. There is more info on Phabricator and on MediaWiki.org. BRFA activity by month Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots. Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots. Overall Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Y 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (N2 3 denied, ? 3 withdrawn, and 2 expired). September 2019 Y Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · N2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · ? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4 TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Wikipedia", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot [...] but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019. Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request. October 2019 Y OAbot 3, DannyS712 bot 47, Pathbot 2, PearBOT 2, DannyS712 bot 59, DannyS712 bot 62, HasteurBot 14, PearBOT 4, WOSlinkerBot 4, MilHistBot 5 Curb Safe Charmer adopts reFill: TAnthony pointed out that reFill 2's bug reports were going unanswered; creator Zhaofeng Li had retired from Wikipedia, and a maintainer was needed. As of June 2021, Curb Safe Charmer had taken up the mantle, saying: "Not that I have all the skills needed but better me than nobody! 'Maintainer' might be too strong a term though. Volunteers welcome!" November 2019 Y BHGbot 4, YiFeiBot 2, DannyS712 bot III 64 · ? PearBOT Old bots do new tricks: DannyS712 bot III 64 prowled redirects, YiFeiBot 2 archived GoCE requests, and BHGbot 4 removed links to portals deleted at MfD (until its authorization was revoked in January at operator BrownHairedGirl's request). December 2019 Y DemonDays64 Bot, DannyS712 bot III 66, Bot1058 6, Monkbot 15, MilHistBot 6, PearBOT 5, DannyS712 bot IV 65 · N2 SportsStatsBot · Xinbenlv bot, SteveBot 8 Redirects to be autopatrolled: A RfC took place at WP:NPP, closing with unanimous consensus that new redirects should be automatically marked as patrolled by bot. DannyS712 wasted no time, and submitted DannyS712 bot III 66 the next day; it passed two days after that. 200,000 bios get short descs: Along a similar vein, Bot1058 6 was approved to remove disambiguation pages from Category:Monitored short pages and a new bot (DemonDays64 Bot) changed lots of http links to https using JavaScript Wiki Browser. One particularly neat task, PearBOT 5, automatically generated short descriptions for more than 200,000 biographies. In the next issue of Bots Newsletter: What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers? What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page? What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild? Will reFill ever get fixed? What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway? Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!) These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out! Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

Could you elaborate here? I feel I've been going out of my way to remain civil and issue-focused. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I think @Headbomb has done a great job maintaining demeanor there, particularly given the kb's of text, and threats lobbed at them. SQL^{Query Me!} 18:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I felt that the whole dumb-as-a-brick-no-context-mindless-automaton comment is needless, it sets the wrong tone to talk about it like that. But obviously I appreciate you taking the time to actually deal with the BRfA. I'm not sure there were threats lobbed at Headbomb? But agree that the aspersions that Headbomb might be acting in bad faith were also uncalled for. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the multiple threats of 'escalation', and calling for my de-BAG-ing. As for the 'dumb-as-a-brick-no-context-mindless-automaton' thing, I disagree that it sets the wrong tone. Bots are mindless automatons, they're utterly dumb, and unable to determine context and nuance. In the words of Ron Schmelzer,

It's understandable then, that people like to connect the idea of intelligence to automation, because automation is also about the idea of replacing human labor with machines. However, they're completely separate ideas. Automation is all about repetitive tasks and focusing on efficiency over variability. But intelligence is not about those things. Intelligence is about responding to the environment and all the variables and changes that happen. When we think someone is intelligent, we don't remark how wonderful their automation is. We ascribe all the positive traits of intelligence to being able to "think things through" and be "creative" about addressing a problem or having "intuition" or "insight" into how something should be done. We don't ascribe any of these concepts - intuition, insight, creativity, thoughtfulness, and adaptation - to the ideas of automation. Automation is not intelligent. It's dumb. - "Sorry, but your bots are stupid." Forbes.com

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:29, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me that you're also reframing the issue here, the point is that the language is inflammatory and over the top, not about if it's factual to say that machines can't possess intelligence. Even if we did reduce the argument to if the statement is factual or not, I don't think it's fair to say bots have no context. At the end of the day, if you wanted to illustrate the actual point you were making that the program as it existed wasn't able to apply the same context-sensitive reasoning about if the tag removal was correct as was being used in the defence of the edit, I think you could have come up with a better analogy than a brick. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, January 2022

Graphs are unavailable due to technical issues. There is more info on Phabricator and on MediaWiki.org. BRFA activity by month Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots. After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever. Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost two years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020. Overall In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Y 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with N2 8 denied, ? 2 withdrawn, and 2 expired). January 2020 Yeah, you're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore. Y ST47Bot, Seppi333Bot, Qbugbot 4 · N2 PkbwcgsBot 25, PkbwcgsBot 26 A new Pywikibot release dropped support for Python 3.4, and it was expected that support for Python 2.7 would be removed in coming updates. Toolforge itself planned to drop Python 2 support in 2022. Two new bots dropped in January 2020: ST47Bot, the successor to STBot, and Seppi333Bot, whose task was to perform a weekly update of four "massive" wikitables for WikiProject Molecular Biology. Cydebot, an adminbot operated by Cyde since 2006, was blocked after going berserk on categories that hadn't yet been CfD'd. February 2020 Y AnomieBOT 78, Cewbot 2, DannyS712 bot 67, DannyS712 bot III 63, PearBOT 6, DemonDays64 Bot 2 · N2 PearBOT On February 1, some concerns were raised about ListeriaBot performing "nonsense" edits. Semi-active operator Magnus Manske (who originally coded the Phase II software|precursor of MediaWiki) was pinged. Meanwhile, the bot was temporarily blocked for several hours until the issue was diagnosed and resolved. On February 18, ST47Bot got into a tussle with Amalthea (bot), and had to be partially-blocked from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cases/Overview. March 2020 Y MajavahBot, SDZeroBot, TheSandBot 6, TheSandBot 7, Bitbotje, FACBot 6, TheSandBot 8, Qbugbot 5, Cewbot 3, SDZeroBot 2, PrimeBOT 31, WikiCleanerBot 12 · AntiCompositeBot In March, a long discussion was started at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy by Skdb about the troubling trend of bots "expiring" without explanation after their owners became inactive. This can happen for a variety of reasons -- API changes break code, hosting providers' software updates break code, hosting accounts lapse, software changes make bots' edits unnecessary, and policy changes make bots' edits unwanted. The most promising solution seemed to be Toolforge hosting (although it has some problems of its own, like the occasional necessity of refactoring code). Some of the twelve bot tasks approved this month were TheSandBot 6 (removing blocked users from Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues), and TheSandBot 7 (removing unblocked users from Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for promotional user names). SDZeroBot 2 was approved to refine geographic stub tags. New bots approved this month were MajavahBot (to patrol WP:EFFPR), SDZeroBot (to merge stub tags), and Bitbotje (fixing DISPLAYTITLE modifications, DEFAULTSORT errors and broken behavior switches in draftspace). April 2020 Y TheSandBot 9, BHGbot 5, DannyS712 bot 69, SDZeroBot 3, ST47ProxyBot, WugBot 4, SDZeroBot 4, DatBot 10, WikiCleanerBot 11, WikiCleanerBot 13, WikiCleanerBot 14, AntiCompositeBot 2, Cewbot 4 · N2 DaedanBot 1 · Creffbot A discussion on the bot noticeboard, "Re-examination of ListeriaBot", was started by Barkeep49, who pointed out repeated operation outside the scope of its BRFA (i.e. editing pages in mainspace, and adding non-free images to others). Some said it was doing good work, and others said it was operating beyond its remit. It was blocked on April 10; the next day it was unblocked, reblocked from article space, reblocked "for specified non-editing actions", unblocked, and indeffed. The next week, several safeguards were implemented in its code by Magnus; the bot was allowed to roam free once more on April 18. ST47ProxyBot joined the stable in April, after a BRFA started in December was finally completed. As an adminbot, it was authorized to block IP addresses belonging to open proxies, public VPN services, and web hosts. New tasks approved for existing bots included BHGbot 5 (diffusing categories), TheSandBot 9 (taking over some tasks from the inactive RonBot), and WugBot 4 (updating data at {{Interactive COVID-19 maps}}). Also, DatBot 10 was approved to scale down non-free SVGs — I didn't even know that was a thing. A discussion at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy was started by Thryduulf about whether WP:BOTCOMM should explicitly specify that bot operators must be responsive to concerns raised on English Wikipedia specifically (as opposed to Phabricator, SourceForge, Toolforge, et cetera). Eventually, the policy was amended to its current form: Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Wikipedia. Pages reachable via unified login, like a talk page at Commons or at Italian Wikipedia could also be acceptable [...] External sites like Phabricator or GitHub (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise anonymity) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it. May 2020 Y MajavahBot 3, DannyS712 bot 70, CitationCleanerBot 5, Dreamy Jazz Bot 4, QEDKbot, William Avery Bot 2, DannyS712 bot 68, PrimeBOT 32, TheSandBot 10, Bot1058 7, BHGbot 6, EaglesBot 2, Cewbot 5, WikiCleanerBot 17 · N2 MDanielsBot, PhuzBot 3, Gedimon · ? PearBOT 7 MajavahBot 3, an impressively meta bot task, was approved this month for maintaining a list of bots running on the English Wikipedia. The page, located at User:MajavahBot/Bot status report, is updated every 24 hours; it contains a list of all accounts with the bot flag, as well as their operator, edit count, last activity date, last edit date, last logged action date, user groups and block status. Other approvals for this month were William Avery Bot 2 (processing redirects in {{R from scientific name}}), DannyS712 bot 68 (allowing users to schedule bot reminders for themselves), TheSandBot 10 (removing blocked/locked users from Category:User talk pages with conflict of interest notices), Bot1058 7 (updating Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests/Permalink), Dreamy Jazz Bot 4 (adding {{WikiProject Biography|living=no}} to talk pages where their associated article is in a year of death category), and QEDKbot (deleting and nominating empty categories). General syntax fixing tasks were approved for DannyS712 bot 70, CitationCleanerBot 5, PrimeBOT 32, BHGbot 6, Cewbot 5, and EaglesBot 2, as well as WikiCleanerBot 15, 16, and 17. Seven bots who fell below activity requirements (with neither the bots nor their operators having any edits or logged actions in two years) had their bot flags removed. They were NekoBot, Robert SkyBot, DASHBotAV, VoxelBot, JackieBot, ReferenceBot, and CensusBot. On May 12, EmausBot was blocked. June 2020 Y QEDKbot 2, AnomieBOT 79, WOSlinkerBot 6, Yapperbot 2, Yapperbot, AnomieBOT 80, Dreamy Jazz Bot 5, WikiCleanerBot 18, HasteurBot 15, MusikBot II 4, NoSandboxesHere · N2 RedWarn · ? Seppi333Bot 2 In July 2017, Headbomb made a proposal that a section of the Wikipedia:Dashboard be devoted to bots and technical issues. In November 2019, Lua code was written superseding Legobot's tasks on that page, and operator Legoktm was asked to stop them so that the new code could be deployed. After no response to pings, a partial-block of Legobot for the dashboard was proposed. Some months later, on June 16, Headbomb said: "A full block serves nothing. A partial block solves all current issues [...] Just fucking do it. It's been 3 years now." The next day, however, Legoktm disabled the task, and the dashboard was successfully refactored. On June 7, RexxS blocked Citation bot for disruptive editing, saying it was "still removing links after request to stop". A couple weeks later, a discussion on the bots noticeboard was opened, saying "it is a widely-used and useful bot, but it has one of the longest block logs for any recently-operating bot on Wikipedia". While its last BRFA approval was in 2011, its code and functionality had changed dramatically since then, and AntiCompositeNumber requested that BAG require a new BRFA. Maintainer AManWithNoPlan responded that most blocks were from years ago (when it lacked a proper test suite), and problems since then had mostly been one-off errors (like a June 2019 incident in which a LTA had "weaponized" the bot to harass editors). David Tornheim opened a discussion about whether bots based on closed-source code should be permitted, and proposed that they not. He cited a recent case in which a maintainer had said "I can only suppose that the code that is available on GitHub is not the actual code that was running on [the bot]". Some disagreed: Naypta said that "I like free software as much as the next person, and I strongly believe that bot operators should make their bot code public, but I don't think it should be that they must do so". Two new bots had their first BRFAs approved: Yapperbot, to replace Legobot for handling the Feedback Request Service, and NoSandboxesHere, to remove {{user sandbox}} from articles in draftspace using Category:Non-userspace pages using User sandbox. Conclusion What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers? Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project? What's the deal with all those book links that InternetArchiveBot is adding to articles? Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki? What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits? These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out! Signing off... jp×g 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply] (You can subscribe or unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding or removing your name from this list.)

22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Established policy provides for the removal of the administrative permissions of users who have made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period. Your administrative permissions will be removed if you do not return to the required activity level before the beginning of January 2023.

Inactive administrators are encouraged to engage with the project in earnest rather than to make token edits to avoid loss of administrative permissions. Resources and support for re-engaging with the project are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/administrators. If you do not intend to re-engage with the project in the foreseeable future, please consider voluntarily resigning your administrative permissions by making a request at the bureaucrats' noticeboard.

Thank you for your past contributions to the project. — JJMC89 bot 08:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Established policy provides for the removal of the administrative permissions of users who have made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period. Your administrative permissions will be removed if you do not return to the required activity level before the beginning of January 2023.

Inactive administrators are encouraged to engage with the project in earnest rather than to make token edits to avoid loss of administrative permissions. Resources and support for re-engaging with the project are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/administrators. If you do not intend to re-engage with the project in the foreseeable future, please consider voluntarily resigning your administrative permissions by making a request at the bureaucrats' noticeboard.

Thank you for your past contributions to the project. — JJMC89 bot 01:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You recently removed (disambiguation) from the link at the top of Golden Slippers. My understanding is that when a link to a diambiguation page is intentional, as in a hatnote, then they are supposed to have (disambiguation). (See, for example, Fade (audio engineering) which has a For other uses, see Fade (disambiguation). note.) Was I not correct? Or did you mistakenly remove it? – Scyrme (talk) 21:09, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Scyrme: Hey, according to WP:HOWTODAB you're correct. I only updated the link because for some reason the (disambiguation) link showed up as a red link to me, or perhaps I am just going colour blind! I'll change to back to make use of the redirect. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 10:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

UtherSRG (talk) 19:13, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You are listed as a member of the Bot Approvals Group but it appears you may not be actively helping in this area anymore. Do you intend to return to BAG-related activity on Wikipedia, or are you happy to be removed from this list? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know that I have removed your name from the list of active BAG members. Best wishes — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:21, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a reminder that established policy provides for removal of the administrative permissions of users who have made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period. You are receiving this annual reminder since you have averaged less than 50 edits per year over the last 5 years.

Inactive administrators are encouraged to reengage with the project in earnest rather than to make token edits to avoid loss of administrative permissions. Resources and support for reengaging with the project are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/administrators. If you do not intend to be engaged with the project in the foreseeable future, please consider voluntarily resigning your administrative permissions by making a request at the bureaucrats' noticeboard.

Thank you for your past contributions to the project. — JJMC89 bot 00:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]