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Attendance record
The article notes: "The Tokyo Dome is the largest concert facility in Japan. A number of famous concerts have been held here, including tour stops by The Rolling Stones, Guns N' Roses and Mariah Carey, which broke attendance records." So who exactly broke the record, Mariah Carey? Is that an attendance record for Dome concerts only, or for all Dome events? Patiwat 00:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, according to the 2007 Aerosmith calendar, which contains historical factoids about the band at the bottom of each month, Aerosmith broke the attendance records for the Tokyo Dome on their Nine Lives Tour on March 9, 1998, which means that they broke Mariah's record which occurred in 1996. Additionally, since concerts make use of the floors of stadiums (unlike sporting events), it seems to me that concerts would be the highest-capacitated of events. Abog 06:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Maximum capacity
The article originally stated that the Tokyo Dome has a maximum capacity of 55,000. However, larger attendances have been recorded on multiple occasions, ranging from 62,500 to even 65,000. Here is a website which states that the Dome's capacity os of 70,000 people: [1]
Also, this article lists the claimed attendances of all the January 4th Dome shows that New Japan runs: [2]
(Note to any puro guys: Let's not start the "62,500 on paper means 40,000 in real life" argument, or it'll never end...)
--Voievod 21:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Just have this to add: "Officially "55,000" but actaully 42,000 + standing room of about 3,000" 42,000 + 3,000 = 45,000... contradiction, inconsistency, whatever the official term here for it is, it's most definitely incorrect 124.176.21.122 (talk) 03:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
What are the Tokyo Dome City Attractions?
There is mention of the "Tokyo Dome City Attractions" but nothing indicates what they are. Wakablogger2 (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Eh, the LaQua mall (which I think has its own page), a kiddy park with some pretty unsafe looking rides, and a really good bar chain called the HUB are pretty much all that immediately surrounds it. Since I think Laqua has its own wikipedia page already you can link to that, I suppose. Mostly the buildings around tokyo dome are ward government offices and not the most interesting. Tsukiakari (talk) 03:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Tokyo Dome - Japanese Music Artists
Tokyo Dome, Arena, Is In Japan and because of that would be culturaly better to write in the first line famous Japanese Bands and POP artists who were there, not other who only because speak Englsih are more known around the world. Japan have musicians who are equal like others, or even better, maybe far better.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GreyWolfy (talk • contribs) 17:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- yeah, yeah - but this is English language wikipedia, so it must be relevant to most English speakers and we have never heard of these "famous" Japanese bands you speak of. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 15:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't at least the 18 shows from X-Japan (who he is now relevant to english speakers) should be mentionned ? Every bio about the group mentions that it's a record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.146.246 (talk) 21:21, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Korean artists
recently one editor has been trying very hard to include some minor Korean artists on this article, their inclusion should be shown to be notable but so far I have seen nothing to warrant their inclusion. Please provide something that shows their inclusion is anything other than well meaning patriotism. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Play fair please. Don't use multiple IPs and don't try to sneak bands in by using alternative band names. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 16:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- TVXQ is a not "minor" Korean artist. They are a group that has gain fame in their own country as well as Japan. Not sure about Rain but TVXQ should be included because they are the first Korean group to ever perform at the Tokyo Dome (one. You are talking about the inclusion of TVXQ into the article, but how about the other artist that are on the page? What makes half of them notable enough to appear in the article but not TVXQ? MS (Talk|Contributions) 17:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps if they are notable in Japan, they should be on wikipedia Japan or Korea's Tokyo Dome article - but they don't seem notable enough to be on English language wikipedia.
- It doesn't matter where someone is notable,it just matters if the person(s) and what they do is notable enough for the English Wikipedia. Please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not bias.MS (Talk|Contributions)
- Perhaps if they are notable in Japan, they should be on wikipedia Japan or Korea's Tokyo Dome article - but they don't seem notable enough to be on English language wikipedia.
- TVXQ is a not "minor" Korean artist. They are a group that has gain fame in their own country as well as Japan. Not sure about Rain but TVXQ should be included because they are the first Korean group to ever perform at the Tokyo Dome (one. You are talking about the inclusion of TVXQ into the article, but how about the other artist that are on the page? What makes half of them notable enough to appear in the article but not TVXQ? MS (Talk|Contributions) 17:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Play fair please. Don't use multiple IPs and don't try to sneak bands in by using alternative band names. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 16:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Just because they the first Korean group to appear is not enough to make them notable, should there also be a mention of the first American/British/Chinese/any other nationality to perform in any venue?
- The section is titled Notable performaces, and them being the first Korean group to perform there makes them notable enough to add them into that section of the article. Please tell me how does that not make them notable enough to appear in the article, especially in that section?MS (Talk|Contributions)
- Just because they the first Korean group to appear is not enough to make them notable, should there also be a mention of the first American/British/Chinese/any other nationality to perform in any venue?
- If other artists are not notable they should be removed. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 17:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with you on this but why didn't ever ask what make those other artists notable enough to appear in the article? Why only TVXQ and Rain? MS (Talk|Contributions) 18:08, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- It is not bias, it is just that this is English language wikipedia, so the content should be relevant and notable for English language speakers - ideally content should be internationally relevant, but if that is not possible, then it should be relevant for the target audience - English language speakers.
- Just being the first Korean band to perform is not enough to make them notable, are you suggesting that merely being the first performer from a certain nation to perform in a certain venue makes someone notable? Perhaps the first performance by a foreign artist in a venue with a long history of local artists only could be considered notable, but to single out a particular nation's performers to be notable seems to show the bias you are keen to avoid.
- should we also consider the first performance by a solo artist, a female artist, a homosexual artist or a black artist to be notable?
- There is no reason for TVXQ to be considered notable - perhaps on their article it would be good to mention the Tokyo Dome performance (I honestly don't consider it necessary) but it certainly should not be mentioned on this article. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 18:48, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Considering relations with Japan and Korea, I find it notable to mention a Korean artist performing at the stadium. Another consideration, how can you include an artist like Gackt? He has had far less #1 singles on the Oricon music charts than TVXQ, if we're judging on how popular an artist is in Japan. Also, verify this statement with Wikipedia guidelines: It is not bias, it is just that this is English language wikipedia, so the content should be relevant and notable for English language speakers - ideally content should be internationally relevant, but if that is not possible, then it should be relevant for the target audience - English language speakers. It sounds like a POV rather than neutral statement over who the viewers of this article "should" be. oncamera(t) 02:14, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Considering Japan-Korea relations would be original research and obvious bias because you would be including an artist because of their nationality not because of their notability. Regarding Gackt, I did not include Gackt - would you like me to remove that artist? 119.173.81.176 (talk) 06:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- What are you talking about original research? See: Japan–Korea relations. Once again, I would like to know which Wikipedia guideline verifies this statement you made: It is not bias, it is just that this is English language wikipedia, so the content should be relevant and notable for English language speakers - ideally content should be internationally relevant, but if that is not possible, then it should be relevant for the target audience - English language speakers. Otherwise, I see no reason to not include TVXQ. There isn't anything clear on the notability guidelines page. You do not own this article, so I would like to know which guideline would disqualify them. Or on second thought, why is there a list of artists at all? It seems to create a discussion like this everytime if someone else finds a band/musician they think should be included. oncamera(t) 00:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- OK. problem solved now? obviously all bands big enough to play tokyo dome have some degree of notability, and unless we list them all it might be better to list none. 119.173.81.176 (talk) 04:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Janet Jacksons rhythm nation World tour
Wasn't Janets Rhythm Nation world tour the fastest sellout in the Domes history?Tombo671 (talk) 06:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/janet-jackson-announces-rock-witchu-tour-57277207.html
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The "Asociation Football" section
Section 3.7 appears to be direly in need of clean-up and/or expansion. 2600:1700:6A96:60:95E:C0B1:7E23:CFB9 (talk) 11:23, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Notable performances
In this section, users arbitrarily select their favorite singers and music groups, and those descriptions do not contribute to readers' understanding of Tokyo Dome, but rather cause misunderstanding, so I think the section needs to be deleted.
The Tokyo Dome's official website lists all the singers and music artists who have performed at the Tokyo Dome from 1988 to the present.[3] There are countless people and groups. It's impossible to choose which of them performed the most notable. Most of the music artists who performed at the Tokyo Dome are Japanese, but they are hardly written about. You should not use this section to give authority to your favorite music group.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 10:31, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- I only described the first concert at the Tokyo Dome and one by a non-Japanese. As the first concert to be held at the Tokyo Dome, they meet objective criteria as listed musicians.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 11:24, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Citing official statistics from Tokyo Dome Co., Ltd., I listed the top three musicians who performed the most days by Japanese and non-Japanese. I excluded from the number of days of joint concerts where many singers and groups gather.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 12:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)