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In the body, there are many citations provided to back that experts consider Pelosi to have been one of the most powerful and effective speakers in U.S. history. Should this be added to the lede? SecretName101 (talk) 12:57, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

not really, seems a but like puffery to me. Slatersteven (talk) 12:58, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven Not really. A well-established widespread assessment is often noted in ledes.

• Franklin Delano Roosevelt: "historical rankings consistently place him as one of the greatest American presidents"
• Meryl Streep: "Often described as 'the best actress of her generation', Streep is particularly known for her versatility and accent adaptability"
• I Have a Dream: "the speech was one of the most famous moments of the civil rights movement and among the most iconic speeches in American history"
• Abraham Lincoln: "Lincoln is often ranked in both popular and scholarly polls as the greatest president in American"
• Volodymyr Zelenskyy: " His leadership during the crisis has won him widespread international praise, and he has been described as a symbol of the Ukrainian resistance. Zelenskyy was named the Time Person of the Year for 2022, and opinion polls in Ukraine have ranked him as Ukraine's greatest president."
• Thriller (album): "It set industry standards with its songs, music videos, and promotional strategies influencing artists, record labels, producers, marketers, and choreographers. The success gave Jackson an unprecedented level of cultural significance for a black American, breaking racial barriers in popular music, earning him regular airplay on MTV and leading to a meeting with US President Ronald Reagan at the White House. Thriller was among the first albums to use music videos as promotional tools; the videos for "Billie Jean", "Beat It" and "Thriller" are credited for transforming music videos into a serious art form."
• Gone with the Wind (film): "Gone with the Wind is regarded as one of the greatest films of all time"
• Christina Aguilera: "Referred to as the 'Voice of a Generation', she is noted for her four-octavevocal range and signature use of melisma. Recognized as an influential figure in popular music"
• George Bernard Shaw: "he has regularly been rated among British dramatists as second only to Shakespeare; analysts recognise his extensive influence on generations of English-language playwrights."
• Whitney Houston: "Houston influenced many singers in popular music, and was known for her powerful, soulful vocals, vocal improvisation skills"
• Eleanor Roosevelt "By the time of her death, Roosevelt was regarded as 'one of the most esteemed women in the world'; The New York Times called her 'the object of almost universal respect' in her obituary. In 1999, she was ranked ninth in the top ten of Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People of the 20th Century, and was found to rank as the most admired woman in thirteen different years between 1948 and 1961 in Gallup's annual most admired woman poll. Periodic surveys conducted by the Siena College Research Institute have consistently seen historians assess Roosevelt as the greatest American first lady.
• James Buchanan: "Historians and scholars rank Buchanan as among the worst, if not the worst, of U.S. presidents in American history"

SecretName101 (talk) 15:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Worded how? Slatersteven (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any way. The wording could be hammered out later: only asking if a mention in any way is justified.

perhaps something like, “Expert assessments of Pelosi’s two speakerships have often regarded her to have been one of the most effective holders of the office, as well as one of the most politically powerful.”

perhaps also paired with mention that “Pelosi proved polarizing in public opinion.” (I’m planning to add more content about public opinion that would justify the polarizing claim even more than what is already in the article) SecretName101 (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically I had to come to the talk page after reading the lead and thought the inclusion of the final sentence in the lead was very misplaced - "Expert assessments of Pelosi's two tenures as speaker have generally considered her to have had a very strong grasp on power in the Democratic majorities and to have been highly effective at the job."I have to side with @Slatersteven, this seems like puffery. I've never heard these expert opinions and the stated examples are a poor justification, and unless a title maybe like "Voice of a generation" was used widespread, it slants articles into feeling like a puff piece. If these opinions were attributed I would say it definitely deserves to be in the body, but putting it in the lead seems very forced. It should be removed from the lead, kept in the body. Eruditess (talk) 17:34, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official congressional picture should be current; something such as this: https://clerk.house.gov/Members/P000197 47.223.55.167 (talk) 01:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

lol! good luck. 47.223.55.167 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? has she changed significantly? Slatersteven (talk) 11:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither Nancy Pelosi nor Steny Hoyer were interns on the Staff of Senator Daniel Brewster but were in fact full time employees on Senator Brewster's staff, as congressional payroll records show, and as Susan Page discusses in her 2021 biography Madam Speaker on page 91: "Some accounts describe Nancy D'Alesandro and Steny Hoyer as interns in the Senate office; in fact, congressional records from the time show both as congressional staffers."

This is confirmed by the 1963 Congressional Staff Directory, in which Pelosi, then D'Alesandro, is listed on the staff as a secretary, while Hoyer is listed on the staff as an assistant. EstateGLB (talk) 21:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Trump is confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. Can anyone add this somewhere in the article?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A statement Pelosi made while debating the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act went viral on social media is it worth mentioning? Talked about here:^[1][2][3] John Oliver talking about also had a bit of coverage:^[4][5] . Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sounds a bit meh to me soibangla (talk) 07:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTNEWS applies. I saw the bit on John Oliver, I imagine we'll all forget about it before the next viral bit. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]