Talk:Min Aung Hlaing
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စိုးစံအဖေ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thant Htet Sint (talk • contribs) 16:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Incorrect facts. The information on Min Aung Hlang is incorrect.
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This page is incorrect and not stating the facts of what is really happening in Myanmar. He has forcibly taken control of the elected leader and government.. can you please take this page down immediately. You are supporting a dictatorship and a human rights abuser. He was also responsible for the killing of Rohinyga and ethnic cleansing. Suecode (talk) 20:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Not done: The article does state that he led the coup and does mention his involvement in the Rohinyga Genocide. I'm at a loss for why you think the simple existence of this article constitutes "supporting a dictatorship and a human rights abuser". No, we will not be taking down this page because you don't like seeing it. You don't have to read it if you don't want to. Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED. ― Tartan357 Talk 20:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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change "Burmese army general who is the current military leader of Myanmar,[1] concurrently serving as Chairman of the State Administration Council and Commander-in-Chief of the Myanmar Armed Forces." to "Burmese rebel leader currently holding the country hostage, hindering democracy to the people of Burma, kidnapping the democratically elected NLD (National League for Democracy) leaders including 1991 Nobel Peace Prize laureate winner Daw Aung San Suu Kyi." MyanmarCitizen (talk) 04:19, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Not done: WP:NPOV ― Tartan357 Talk 05:11, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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Change "Min Aung Hlaing (Burmese: မင်းအောင်လှိုင်; born 3 July 1956) is a Burmese army general who is the current military leader of Myanmar,[1] concurrently serving as Chairman of the State Administration Council and Commander-in-Chief of the Myanmar Armed Forces. " to "Min Aung Hlaing is a leader of Feb 1 military coup in Myanmar and assigned himself as chairman which is illegitimate and totally not accepted by the people of Myanmar." 183.178.124.3 (talk) 07:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Not done: WP:NPOV ― Tartan357 Talk 07:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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Sithupeter (talk) 07:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: Article content removed.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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Wife- Dr.Thet Thet Khine 202.191.104.179 (talk) 07:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ― Tartan357 Talk 07:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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May I edit some of the detail information for Min Aung Hlaing. Kaizennyi1996 (talk) 09:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. TungstenTime (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Revamping lead
Hello. Reading the article of the general, and saw that the lead is pretty much on his appointments. I feel a revamp is in order to better summarise his life and military/political career.
Min Aung Hlaing (Burmese: မင်းအောင်လှိုင်; born 3 July 1956) is a Burmese politician and army general who serves as the 12th prime minister of Myanmar since August 2021. Also the Commander-in-chief of Defence Services since March 2011, he rose to power as Chairman of the State Administration Council (SAC) through the February 2021 coup d'état.[1][2] He previously served as Joint Chief of Staff of the Ministry of Defence from 2010 to 2011 and was a member of the National Defence and Security Council (NDSC) chaired by the president of Myanmar.[3]
Born in Tavoy, Burma, Min studied law at the Rangoon Arts and Science University, before joining the military. Rising through its ranks, he became a five-star general by 2013.[4] During the period of civilian rule from 2011 to 2021, Min worked to ensure the military's continued role in politics, and forestalled the peace process with ethnic armed groups. Min was closely involved with the military's crackdown on the Rohingyas which led to the Rohingya Crisis.
Claiming voting irregularities and electoral fraud in the 2020 Myanmar general election, Min seized power through the 2021 coup.[5][6] Having detained several lawmakers, the President U Win Myint and State Counsellor Daw Aung San Su Kyi, he established the interim State Administration Council (SAC). With the outbreak of the 2021 Myanmar protests, Min has ordered a clampdown and suppression of demonstrations.[7] With allegations of human rights abuse and corruption, Min has been subjected to a series of international sanctions.
The page itself seems to be in a jumbled mess with some gaping holes, especially his involvement in the crackdown on the protestors in the 2021 protests (also his response to the COVID-19 outbreak), and also what exactly he has done from 2011 to 2021. I suggest more research in these areas.--ZKang123 (talk) 05:25, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Myanmar army ruler takes prime minister role, again pledges elections". Reuters. 1 August 2021. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ^ "Myanmar coup: Aung San Suu Kyi detained as military seizes control". BBC News. 1 February 2021.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "Constitution of the Republic of the Union of Myanmar (2008)" (PDF). Burma Library. Archived (PDF) from the original on 16 August 2019. Retrieved 3 July 2019.
- ^ "Myanmar coup: Who is army Chief Min Aung Hlaing?". Tokyo Broadcasting System Television. 1 February 2021. Retrieved 27 March 2021.
- ^ "အရေးပေါ်ကာလ ဆောင်ရွက်ပြီးစီးပါက ရွေးကောက်ပွဲ ပြန်လည်ကျင်းပ၍ အနိုင်ရပါတီအား နိုင်ငံတော်တာဝန်ကို လွှဲအပ်ပေးနိုင်ရေး ဆောင်ရွက်မည်ဖြစ်ကြောင်း တပ်မတော်ထုတ်ပြန်". 7 Day Daily (in Burmese). 1 February 2021.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ^ "Myanmar military seizes power, detains elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi". Reuters. Archived from the original on 1 February 2021. Retrieved 1 February 2021.
- ^ "Two people in critical condition after police shoot peaceful protesters with live bullets in Naypyitaw – doctor". Myanmar NOW. Retrieved 9 February 2021.
Discussion
Tartan357 is very over! You are what? Pls someone report Tartan357 to ANI for over ruling and judging on Burmese related articles without discussion with Burmese language editor. Wikipedia is not your mother's home and, you can't do everything you want here!
As I'm a Burmese, I strongly agress that Min A H is still hold the position, Chairman of SAC, added by Kantabon. Taung Tan (talk) 08:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ping to current active Burmese editors @Htanaungg:, @Theinlinaung2010:, @Marcus MT: and bureaucrat of the Burmese Wikipedia @Ninjastrikers: for discussion. Taung Tan (talk) 08:14, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- I just found the website for "Commander in Chief of Defense Services" describes Min Aung Hlaing as "Chairman of SAC Prime Minister" in their news and statements. Htanaungg (talk) 10:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- The recent news also referred Min Aung Hlaing as Chairman of the State Administration Council Prime Minister of the Provisional Government of the Republic of the Union of Myanmar Senior General Min Aung Hlaing. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 17:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Order
@Mewulwe: List of prime ministers of Myanmar shows all twelve prime ministers. You can follow the links to the PMs and see there have been twelve, with sources to back those term dates up. It's a little silly to expect us to add sources for all 11 previous PM term start and end dates into this article just to get the order. There are cases, such as succession in templates, where it is reasonable to rely on the immediately linked articles for very basic information. ― Tartan357 Talk 21:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- There is generally no objective way of counting officeholders. In this case, he might as well be 15th if you apply the counting method of U.S. presidents, separately counting multiple non-consecutive tenures. That's why numbers should only be given where (semi-)official numbering systems exist. Mewulwe (talk) 08:33, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Mewulwe, that makes sense to me. I have not found sources for either numbering scheme, so I've removed it from the list article. ― Tartan357 Talk 01:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- This isn't the first time Mewulwe has edit-warred to remove numberings from office holder bio infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 17:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Mewulwe, that makes sense to me. I have not found sources for either numbering scheme, so I've removed it from the list article. ― Tartan357 Talk 01:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Note: I've removed the numberings from the infoboxes of the previous prime ministers of Burma/Myanmar. If for no other reason, then to bring them in line with this bio article's infobox. If it's re-added that Min Aung is the 12th prime minister & not reverted? Then I'll restore the numberings of his predecessors. GoodDay (talk) 00:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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The photo needed to be changed due to copy rights and did not represent him particularly well. Just that. Thank you VKT202020 (talk) 17:29, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: It appears to have a compatible license, and it's a decent picture. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
The ref cite: <ref name=ranksawarded> -- which originally incorrectly identified its source as "Tokyo Broadcasting System Television" (I've corrected it to the Dhaka, Bangladesh-based "The Business Standard") -- is, unfortunately, an improper WP:CIRCULAR reference, because cited article, in turn, cites Wikipedia as its source.
This improper reference is the sole cited source for 6 different statements in this Wikipedia article, so I've flagged them all as [better source needed]. Would encourage an editor with time & interest to provide suitable replacement references for each.
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Change (remove) the word politician from "Min Aung Hlaing (Burmese: မင်းအောင်လှိုင် pronounced [mɪ́ɰ̃ àʊɰ̃ l̥àɪɰ̃]; born 3 July 1956) is a Burmese politician and army general".
He is not a politician, he is the army general who took power by coup. He still does not have any political credentials, just taking PM position by coup doesn't qualify for that. MMFacts (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. From my understanding, just holding a political office (no matter how you obtained that office) makes you a politician Cannolis (talk) 18:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Just a question
I don't think this dictator is able to control his power anymore in some places, such as Kayah State and Saging Region. According to this source, the revolution leader in Palel town of Saging, he said " the Dictator's military isn't able to control Saging, anymore. Here's a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqPRfy62N4c
Editor in Myanmar (talk) 04:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Editor in Myanmar
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Min Aung Hlaing's father name is Khin Hlaing. Not Thaung Hlaing. Please check the link here for his own answer. Please check at 2 mins 7 secs. https://www.facebook.com/popularnewsjournal/videos/361626864949685
His father, Thaung Hlaing, later worked as a civil engineer at the Ministry of Construction.[11] Lwinnck (talk) 22:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Done with added source. Thanks. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 08:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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2400:AC40:609:D0F1:CC74:108F:856E:6D34 (talk) 08:01, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tollens (talk) 08:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Birth place correction
Now, the article states a different birthplace for the general. Actually, the original one, Minbu, Magway region, is correct, and the editor @KhantWiki: added the wrong birthplace as Dawei. According to his official interview with Popular News Journal (Asian Fame Media), it was stated, ကျွန်တော့်ကိုအများအားဖြင့်သိကြတာက ထားဝယ်ကဆိုပြီးသိကြတာပေါ့။ မိဘတွေက ထားဝယ်ဇာတိတွေဖြစ်ကြပါတယ်။ ဒါပေမယ့်ကျွန်တော်က ထားဝယ်မှာမွေးတာ မဟုတ်ဘူး။ ကျွန်တော်မွေးတာက မကွေးတိုင်းဒေသကြီး၊ မင်းဘူးမြို့မှာမွေးတာပါ။ မိဘတွေက အစိုးရဝန်ထမ်းဖြစ်တဲ့အတွက် မိဘတွေကမင်းဘူးမြို့မှာ တာဝန်ထမ်းဆောင် ကြပါတယ်။ မကွေးတိုင်းမှာပညာရေးဝန်ထမ်းဖြစ်ပါတယ်။
Translation: "Most of the people who know me were born in Dawei. But it's not true. My parents are from Dawei, but I was born in Minbu, Magway Region. Since my parents are government employees, they work in Minbu. They are education employees in Magway."
Thanks. 223.206.215.17 (talk) 22:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. I'll correct the birthplace information accordingly. Appreciate your help. KhantWiki (talk) 08:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @KhantWiki no worries my bro, keep up your nice work. Thank you. 223.206.215.17 (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)