Talk:List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series

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"Adventure into Fear" as a brand was never officially released or marketed

As the editor who opened this thread said Matter closed, I'm closing it to keep it from continuing unnecessarily. —El Millo (talk) 23:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(This is not about whether Helstrom or AiF was MCU or not. There's a thread above for that.)

I'd like some consideration on why the branding "Adventure into Fear" is used here. No actual marketing had been released about it. I believe it was never official and should be considered a cancelled project. As such, it doesn't really belong here.

Also, as far as I can tell, the only time the name was mentioned by a Marvel source was Jeph Loeb in a Deadline interview where he talks about potential shows "we now refer to as Adventure into Fear". In the same article, he also mentions "the Marvel Knights, as we sometimes call them here" in reference to the Netflix Defenders shows. There was already consensus here that "Marvel Knights" shouldn't be used in this article since it is not official branding and more of an internal name. Should we view "Adventure into Fear" any differently? Besides, having a named franchise of one show seems odd.

I propose we rename this heading with something more appropriate. It can still be mentioned in the prose, but having it in such a prominent place makes it seem like official branding, which I don't believe it was. Either a general "Other Series" or a maybe "Hulu Series" to match the other headings (though then we have to think about Runaways). Marquismark79 (talk) 19:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The section is about the "Adventure into Fear" plans specifically, not just other series or Hulu series. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We're not going down this rabbit hole again. This section is dedicated to the plans for the group label. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not trying to open that can of worms and am more than willing to drop it if I'm alone here. I am simply questioning that since we don't list non-released shows in this article, so why list a non-released franchise? And if "Marvel Knights" was struck down, then why allow "Adventure into Fear", both of which are sourced in a similar manner?
Along the same lines, we don't mention any other non-released shows in this article (e.g. Most Wanted, Damage Control, New Warriors) but we do for Ghost Rider and AiF.
Maybe it's just me, but all this history and detail just seems a little out of scope for a list article. Marquismark79 (talk) 20:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Marvel Knights" is still used in this article, the common name is just used for the section header and lead. "Adventure into Fear" is the only name known for the planned group of series, so that is what we use for it. This section is dedicated to that planned group, which includes the released series Helstrom and the scrapped Ghost Rider, among others as those were definite plans, and there are no other major articles to house all of this content at unlike the scrapped ABC and Freeform series, which are included in the ABC and YA series articles. This has been the general consensus for how to navigate and compile these groups and articles for years. Trailblazer101 (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The section also links to Adventure into Fear (franchise), just like the other Marvel TV sections link to articles with the same/similar name. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
However, "Marvel Knights" was deemed inappropriate for the heading of the section since it was an unofficial internally used name. "Adventure into Fear" was also unofficial and internally used, and only mentioned in the same interview "Marvel Knights" was mentioned. Doesn't seem any different to me. We can still mention the name in the prose and link to the article, but there's just not strong enough evidence that's what the branding would have been.
Why use descriptive names for the other headings (ABC, Netflix, YA), but use a unofficial/unreleased brand for this one? Seems inconsistent and arbitrary. Marquismark79 (talk) 20:44, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Both names were from Jeph Loeb, an official executive for Marvel Television at the time the names were used. We're not going to reclassify Adventure into Fear with some jargon made up to satisfy these already disproven and rejected concerns. Adventure into Fear is the only official name used for this planned group, and is consistent with the article for it. That is not changing. Trailblazer101 (talk) 21:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Matter closed. Marquismark79 (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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See also this discussion on my talk page. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remove 20th TV

As I correctly warned here and here, Production Weekly is not a reliable source when it comes to questionable studio involvement. I agreed to keep 20th TV listed until Echo, so that we can settle the debate about PW's reliability once and for all. Now that Echo is out, it's clear that Production Weekly was lying about 20th TV involvement.

So, I propose removing 20th TV from the remaining Marvel Studios TV series like Daredevil: Born Again and Agatha: Darkhold Diaries to avoid more months of feeding readers with misinformation. Since Marvel Studios doesn't usually do co-productions unless it's for an IP they don't own like Spider-Man, we should only add studios if they're confirmed by Disney/Marvel or independently reported by the trades. At the very least it should be removed from the header and the infobox. If it's still necessary to keep it for some reason, then it can be added as a commentary in the Production section. cc; Trailblazer101, Favre1fan93

Thanks. — Starforce13 03:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's honestly not that big of a deal. The whole point of Wikipedia is going by what sources present, see WP:VNT. We uphold that as Production Weekly has been reliable on most of their listings, and this ultimately being incorrect does not discount that or prove they are somehow entirely unreliable. As I have said in the past on this matter, we can easily remove the 20th TV mentions for Echo now, though nothing has changed in regards to the remaining instances since the last time you brought this up, and I don't see other editors' stances changing just based on the Echo exclusion alone. There is not enough WP:DOUBT (this relates to articles, but the same philosophy can be applied to sourced content) here for the rest of the 20th TV mentions to be removed. Disney and Marvel are no strangers to co-productions (see Deadpool 3 for example). It's not like we were intentionally spreading disinformation/misinformation. We went by the reputable source until proven otherwise, which is how Wikipedia should work. I suggest you WP:DROPTHESTICK and stop WP:Beating a dead horse here, as this information will either be removed/hidden/whatever dependent on the outcome of the sources. Yet another discussion and then some is not going to change the past consensus without new solid evidence and new sourcing. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can easily comment out the 20th TV info at the relevant articles now, but still keep, hidden, the existing sources and such because as Trailblazer noted, WP:VNT would still apply. The fact it did not ultimately play a part in Echo's production adds more weight to the fact that the others likely are not going to have their involvement. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jac Schaeffer's overall deal with Marvel Studios had also included a deal with 20th Television, with Deadline noting that this was signaling a closer collaboration between the studios. So there's a chance 20th TV is still involved in the projects she's attached to, like Agatha and Vision Quest. Aldwiki1 (talk) 18:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, we thought those two may be linked for Schaeffer's deal, hence why that should remain at the Agatha article, though it can be hidden from the rest until we have further clarity. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've hidden the 20th info at Phase Five (for all three remaining series), and the info on the Ironheart and Born Again pages. I can leave the Agatha one for now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Roger that. Thanks! Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:45, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disney+ MCU timeline

Should it be mentioned that recently now Disney+ included the Netflix Marvel shows on the timeline? 0Detail-Attention215 (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's an ongoing discussion about it at Draft talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline#Marvel Television. -- ZooBlazer 19:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant is not exactly placing it on a visual timeline. What I meant is mentioning this on the Marvel Television section where it says Under Marvel Studios. 0Detail-Attention215 (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have included a mention of their additions in that section. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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